I Wanna Mock

Hostile;4338956 said:
It seems pretty obvious to me that what this team needs to push us past this level to the next level is the OL issues resolved. To that end, I would focus on David DeCastro in this draft and would trade up to get him if I had to. Make this team so good on Offense that the Defense can afford the gambles they like to take.

I've mentioned it in other threads -- I'm sold on improving the offense first. The NFL is about offense and the Cowboys offense isn't so far from being elite. It is time to complete the offense and move it up to elite status.

Go OL early, absolutely. Yes, pick up another FB and don't be a bit shy about picking one earlier than Round 6 if you are sold on him. I'm not ready to draft Romo's replacement yet, but I could be ready to draft Witten's replacement it is decided that it is time to part ways with MartyB.

I think Boykin would be a dynamic addition.
 
Hostile;4338956 said:
It seems pretty obvious to me that what this team needs to push us past this level to the next level is the OL issues resolved. To that end, I would focus on David DeCastro in this draft and would trade up to get him if I had to. Make this team so good on Offense that the Defense can afford the gambles they like to take.

1st round...David DeCastro, OG, Stanford, 6'5", 315. Better run and pass blocking puts this Offense on par with the Saints and Packers. This guy makes too much sense not to go after hard.

2nd round...Nick Foles, QB, Arizona, 6'5", 240. If the other top QBs do go back to school, this guy might move into the 1st round. We were eyeing Andy Dalton last year. McGee is not a long term answer once Tony is ready to step aside. Here is our long term answer. Yeah, it's a homer pick for me, but a good one.

3rd round...Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia, 5'10", 185. I want him mainly as a Return guy, but CB depth is vital too. I am tired of Kick Returners jogging to the 20. Hit top speed and run.

4th round...Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State, 6'4", 305. I think Kowalski was a little better than Costa. I don't think either were good enough.

5th round...Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly, 5'10", 188. He has speed to burn, we need speed and depth.

6th round...Jerry Franklin, ILB, Arkansas, 6'1", 245. With Brooking and James both likely gone we need depth here. One will be a veteran, the other a rookie. This kid makes tackles.

6th round...Comp pick...Cody Johnson, FB, Texas, 5'11", 252. Insurance against Chapas not being what we want and Fiammetta being injured.

7th round...Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma, 5'10", 188. Will drop because of his injury. Is a perfect choice as a Wes Welker type small guy who is fearless and will make hard catches. Worth waiting a year for if the ACL isn't ready by 2012.


I dont like Foles, he is a statue. If we had Aikman's OL, Foles would be a great addition to the team, but Romo has to run for his life on every snap....Foles can't run, he will be beaten to a pulp.....and that is a lot of pulp as big as he is.
 
ZeroClub;4339964 said:
I've mentioned it in other threads -- I'm sold on improving the offense first. The NFL is about offense and the Cowboys offense isn't so far from being elite. It is time to complete the offense and move it up to elite status.

Go OL early, absolutely. Yes, pick up another FB and don't be a bit shy about picking one earlier than Round 6 if you are sold on him. I'm not ready to draft Romo's replacement yet, but I could be ready to draft Witten's replacement it is decided that it is time to part ways with MartyB.

I think Boykin would be a dynamic addition.

I agree, offense wins in the NFL these days.

Look at Green Bay, New England and New Orleans. Those 3 QBs get a lot of credit, but their Offensive Lines are playing at high level also. The 1 game that GB lost was the game where 2 of their starting OL were out. NE and NO each have 2 OL in the Pro Bowl.

I don't dislike Boykin, but there are probably at least 10 better CBs in this draft. Boykin should be a good PR but NFL KRs usually have sturdier builds like a RB.

My favorite returner is Jeff Demps. He is short but solid and has ridiculous speed. He might need to play some slot WR to get on the field with the offense.
 
JonJon;4339112 said:
I also don't know if I would go QB this high in this draft. I still think Romo has a good 5 years left in him, so right now might not be the best time to get his replacement. Maybe in 2014 or 2015, but not now.

I would go after an edge rusher or 3-4 DE instead.

2nd round options:
Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati, 6'5", 302
Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina, 6'4", 276
Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall, 6,5", 263

If Romo is still playing at a high level and Foles has proven himself to be ready to start in the NFL, you're at a tremendous position of strength. Young talented QBs bring a lot in return and provide good insurance against injury. Everyone knows we were interested in Dalton last year. Just imagine if we had Dalton coming in off the bench when Romo went down. Would feel a lot better about our chances.
 
i'm still not sold on cody johnson making the switch to fullback.

i like the broyles pick, hate the foles pick. we have too many holes on this team to be using a 2nd round pick on a backup qb.
 
burmafrd;4339689 said:
Sorry but we need to think about Romo's health and this O line interior is not good for it. Whine about the D all you want but the interior O line is just as important. As long as some of you manage to realize that a injured Romo sinks us just as fast if not faster then the D.

I think this draft is sorting out in such a way that a savvy-drafting team could address their defensive issues AND their offensive line early on...

Without going into names, the Boys could secure good players at the following positions:

1st round-- CB

2nd round-- OL

3rd round-- DL or LB

4th round-- DB

5th round-- OL...

With the 3 picks in the late rounds, address the offensive skill positions-- maybe a backup QB, a FB, TE depth, and by all means, a RB or WR who has return skills...
 
dboy214;4340444 said:
i'm still not sold on cody johnson making the switch to fullback.

Don't look now, but he's been the Horns' fullback for the last two seasons...
 
JonJon;4339884 said:
I think you meant Michael Brewster (C).

Yeah, sorry.

Trade into the second round for a third, then...

1. Ingram
2. Wolfe
3. Zeitler
3. Fleener
4. Brewster

Does anyone really think Ingram lasts into round two?
 
VACowboy;4340630 said:
Yeah, sorry.

Trade into the second round for a third, then...

1. Ingram
2. Wolfe
3. Zeitler
3. Fleener
4. Brewster

Does anyone really think Ingram lasts into round two?

You really won't know until after the combine.

But if Spencer is retained... It won't matter. Ingram won't be the pick regardless.
 
silverbear;4340534 said:
I think this draft is sorting out in such a way that a savvy-drafting team could address their defensive issues AND their offensive line early on...

Without going into names, the Boys could secure good players at the following positions:

1st round-- CB

2nd round-- OL

3rd round-- DL or LB

4th round-- DB

5th round-- OL...

With the 3 picks in the late rounds, address the offensive skill positions-- maybe a backup QB, a FB, TE depth, and by all means, a RB or WR who has return skills...


I agree... I think the OL can wait till the 2nd if not the 3rd round we need some difference makers in the secondary.
 
silverbear;4340534 said:
I think this draft is sorting out in such a way that a savvy-drafting team could address their defensive issues AND their offensive line early on...

Without going into names, the Boys could secure good players at the following positions:

1st round-- CB

2nd round-- OL

3rd round-- DL or LB

4th round-- DB

5th round-- OL...

With the 3 picks in the late rounds, address the offensive skill positions-- maybe a backup QB, a FB, TE depth, and by all means, a RB or WR who has return skills...

sorry silver, dont agree at all

the defense should be all about front 7 pressuring the QB and stopping the run

look at the top defenses around the league and name me their #3 CB, or even the #2 CB for many

these defenses are built on dominant front 7 personnel

we already have 2 first round CBs and our defense is horrid
the best CB is Revis, how good is their defense doing?

we need to upgrade the front 7

we need a real SOLB (perhaps Ingram)
we need a NT (soliai or Poe)
we need a 3-4 DE that can pressure (if we get NT, that can be Rat or draft Wolf, my preference would be both)

AND

upgrade the OL

OC and an OG

now, we can play with anybody
 
visionary;4340847 said:
sorry silver, dont agree at all

the defense should be all about front 7 pressuring the QB and stopping the run

look at the top defenses around the league and name me their #3 CB, or even the #2 CB for many

these defenses are built on dominant front 7 personnel

we already have 2 first round CBs and our defense is horrid
the best CB is Revis, how good is their defense doing?

we need to upgrade the front 7

we need a real SOLB (perhaps Ingram)
we need a NT (soliai or Poe)
we need a 3-4 DE that can pressure (if we get NT, that can be Rat or draft Wolf, my preference would be both)

AND

upgrade the OL

OC and an OG

now, we can play with anybody

I agree with this.
 
My pipe dream is to sign Campbell and Finnegan in Free Agency. That goes a long way towards improving our defense. Then we can focus on OL early in the draft.
 
visionary;4340847 said:
sorry silver, dont agree at all

the defense should be all about front 7 pressuring the QB and stopping the run

look at the top defenses around the league and name me their #3 CB, or even the #2 CB for many

these defenses are built on dominant front 7 personnel

we already have 2 first round CBs and our defense is horrid
the best CB is Revis, how good is their defense doing?

we need to upgrade the front 7

we need a real SOLB (perhaps Ingram)
we need a NT (soliai or Poe)
we need a 3-4 DE that can pressure (if we get NT, that can be Rat or draft Wolf, my preference would be both)

AND

upgrade the OL

OC and an OG

now, we can play with anybody



I mean has any one looked at the CB's that were in the SB the last few years - I mean nothing special
 
L-O-V-E the pick of Ryan Broyles. Unfortunately, I think someone will take a chance on him much higher because of how valuable a WR he can be.

I'd be willing to take him in the 4th round area, put him on the PUP list, then slowly work him in as our slot WR of the future. He will be an absolute terror as a slot WR in the future years.
 
super8;4341635 said:
I mean has any one looked at the CB's that were in the SB the last few years - I mean nothing special

Are you being sarcastic?
 
visionary;4340847 said:
sorry silver, dont agree at all

the defense should be all about front 7 pressuring the QB and stopping the run

look at the top defenses around the league and name me their #3 CB, or even the #2 CB for many

these defenses are built on dominant front 7 personnel

we already have 2 first round CBs and our defense is horrid
the best CB is Revis, how good is their defense doing?

we need to upgrade the front 7

we need a real SOLB (perhaps Ingram)
we need a NT (soliai or Poe)
we need a 3-4 DE that can pressure (if we get NT, that can be Rat or draft Wolf, my preference would be both)

AND

upgrade the OL

OC and an OG

now, we can play with anybody

I disagree to a degree. I agree that the pass rush should be upgraded, but so does the secondary. The NFL has turned into a pass 1st league. Sure if you rush the passer well you will beat the lesser QB's in the league. But blitz the like of Brees, Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and a few others and they will pick you apart to no end. Right now our secondary is sorely lacking. Newman is old and cant play anymore and Jenkins is unreliable. If we keep sticking those 2 on islands by themselves we will lose.

By the way, in what world are Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams and Morgan Burnett not good players? Ike Taylor and Troy Polamalu are both pretty great as well....We dont have a single impact player that can make a big play in our secondary.
 
tm1119;4342092 said:
I disagree to a degree. I agree that the pass rush should be upgraded, but so does the secondary. The NFL has turned into a pass 1st league. Sure if you rush the passer well you will beat the lesser QB's in the league. But blitz the like of Brees, Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and a few others and they will pick you apart to no end. Right now our secondary is sorely lacking. Newman is old and cant play anymore and Jenkins is unreliable. If we keep sticking those 2 on islands by themselves we will lose.

By the way, in what world are Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams and Morgan Burnett not good players? Ike Taylor and Troy Polamalu are both pretty great as well....We dont have a single impact player that can make a big play in our secondary.

not saying our secondary is great and could not do with an upgrade

just saying that you have to start with a dominant front 7 and we are sorely lacking there

upgrade the front 7 first. we still need NT, pass rushing SOLB, 1 3-4 DE that can put pressure

then lets talk about picking a CB

now, i dont know what we will do in FA so a lot of this is moot but

given our defense the way it is right now, if we are sitting at picks between 20-32 and there is a choice between taking a SOLB and a CB, I take the SOLB all day

if we can pick a NT like soliai in FA and draft derek wolf and ingram (SOLB) there are mid-range CBs available in FA like finnegan and ross who will be more than adequate even in a starting role

it will be very expensive to try and find a great SOLB in FA but we can get that in the draft

same for center

go OG in FA and OC in draft

my only point is that we tend to focus on the shiny toys like CB and WR whereas great defenses and offenses are first strong up the middle and you build out from there
 
super8;4341635 said:
I mean has any one looked at the CB's that were in the SB the last few years - I mean nothing special

i know you are being sarcastic here so answer this question for me

given a choice, would you rather have

a great front 7 and average secondary or

average front 7 and great secondary

i think the answer is obvious but maybe not to everyone
 

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