I want a D-1 playoff system

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IMO, D-1 football should have ten 12-team divisions. What this means is, some conferences would have to re-align and independents would have to join conferences. Now, I will not post the realignment as I prefer it, but instead how I feel it should be, without totally realigning the conferences. Basically, I will merely be rearranging some of the lesser conferences.

1 (12)
USC
UCLA
Stanford
California
Oregon
Oregon St
Washington
Washington St
Arizona
Arizona St
Hawaii
San Diego St

2 (12)
Boise St
Idaho
Nevada
UNLV
Fresno St
San Jose St
Utah
Utah St
BYU
Air Force
Wyoming
Colorado St

3 (12)
Michigan
Michigan St
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Indiana
Minnesota
Iowa
Penn St
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Notre Dame

4 (12)
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Connecticut
South Florida
Louisville
Syracuse
Army
Navy
East Carolina
Central Florida

5 (12)
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Alabama
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi St
Arkansas
Auburn

6 (12)
Texas
A&M
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Baylor
Texas Tech
Colorado
Nebraska
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Missouri

7 (12)
Clemson
Virginia Tech
Florida St
Wake Forest
North Carolina St
North Carolina
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Miami FL
Duke
Virginia
Boston College

8 (12)
Troy
Middle Tennessee
Louisiana Monroe
Florida Atlantic
Louisiana Lafayette
Arkansas St
Florida International
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Marshall
Alabama Birmingham
Miami OH

9 (12)
New Mexico
New Mexico St
Texas El Paso
Tulsa
Tulane
Rice
Southern Methodist
Houston
Texas Christian
North Texas
Memphis
Louisiana Tech

10 (12)
Ohio
Temple
Bowling Green
Kent St
Buffalo
Akron
Central Michigan
Northern Illinois
Western Michigan
Toledo
Eastern Michigan
Ball St


Each team plays 11 Conference games. The top 2 teams in each conference play in the Conference Championship. The winner goes to the playoffs. The 4 lowest ranked Conference Champions play in the Wild Card round, with the winners joining the other 6 Conference Champs and setting up the elite 8.

1 vs 8
4 vs 5
2 vs 7
3 vs 6


9 playoff games in all....Pasadena (Rose Bowl), Glendale (Fiesta Bowl), Dallas (Cotton Bowl/Cowboys Stadium), New Orleans (Sugar Bowl), Miami (Orange Bowl), Atlanta (Georgia Dome), San Antonio (Alamo Bowl), Orlando (Capitol 1 Bowl), Los Angeles (Coliseum)
 

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ND will never join a conference.

These bowl games make so much more money that they'd never do playoffs.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3171705 said:
ND will never join a conference.

These bowl games make so much more money that they'd never do playoffs.
Exactly. The BCS would probably lose money if they went to a playoff system, so it will probably never happen.
 

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Cover 2;3171734 said:
Exactly. The BCS would probably lose money if they went to a playoff system, so it will probably never happen.

Well one way to eliminate the "dark horse" teams and still not implement a playoff system could be as simple as using an NFL blue print for scheduling..

You play you typical conference games, and that can be worked out however you please.. But instead of scheduling 2-3 cupcake teams, one of those games will be picked for you (based on standings the year before).

For instance, let's use this year's standings..

Florida finished 2nd in the SEC, next season Florida would be matched up with a 2nd ranked team from another conference. Let's use Big 10 for this scenario.

Florida(2nd in SEC) would play Iowa(2nd in big 10) for one of it's games the following season.

The scheduling could be tweaked to get a system that is fair, but using a simple thing like that you could still keep the BCS system, and by scheduling like that (adding one tough game additional to each schedule) you'd help eliminate some of the unbeaten teams from the championship talk.

That would be a simple and feasible way to knock teams like Utah, Boise, TCU and such out of the race... Or if those teams win with a tougher schedule, it could alternatively be a good thing as well b/c they would have a tougher strength of schedule due to this, and maybe justify their place amongst the top teams.

it's just an idea, and it's rather simple. I will admit that, however I think it's a good idea to work with, it would need to be tweaked though.

Imagine Boise playing USC one week, or Cincinnati playing Alabama or Utah vs Ga Tech.

Not only could you get some really interesting regular season matchups by simply changing one game on the schedule with the "Previous season standings" but you'd either eliminate the dark horse teams or prove they are worthy of a big game.

Thoughts?
 

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DaBoys4Life;3171705 said:
ND will never join a conference.

These bowl games make so much more money that they'd never do playoffs.


You can still have all the obscure bowl games.....and the bowl sites I listed would still make money, cause they would be the sites for each playoff game. The National Championship game would rotate between Pasadena, Glendale, Arlington, New Orleans, and the Orange Bowl
 

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There will never be a playoff system because a non big conference team might win and they can't have that.
 

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Cover 2;3171734 said:
Exactly. The BCS would probably lose money if they went to a playoff system, so it will probably never happen.
Totally false. The BCS and everyone involved would make much more money in a playoff system, because each game would mean more and would draw more viewers, thus more advertising, thus more money.

I'm a fan of college football. I'm a huge football fan. But I don't watch hardly any of the bowl games, because they're meaningless and boring. That would change for me and millions of other football fans if they were actually playoff games.
 

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theogt;3171961 said:
Totally false. The BCS and everyone involved would make much more money in a playoff system, because each game would mean more and would draw more viewers, thus more advertising, thus more money.

I'm a fan of college football. I'm a huge football fan. But I don't watch hardly any of the bowl games, because they're meaningless and boring. That would change for me and millions of other football fans if they were actually playoff games.

Exactly. You won! Heres some money!

Why do I care?

The OP is changing too much. Keep everything, take the 6 BCS conf. champions and 2 WC's and line them up.
This keeps the reg. season meaningful, but adds new intrigue w/ the playoffs. Call it the McDonalds/Windows7 Chanpionship.

Theres still crap bowls to make money and now playoff revenue.
 

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Muhast;3171886 said:
Not only could you get some really interesting regular season matchups by simply changing one game on the schedule with the "Previous season standings" but you'd either eliminate the dark horse teams or prove they are worthy of a big game.

Thoughts?
There's really no way to know a year in advance who is going to be next year's Cincinnati or TCU. Both those teams were expected to be respectable, but nowhere near the level they eventually achieved.
 

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Biggems;3171904 said:
You can still have all the obscure bowl games.....and the bowl sites I listed would still make money, cause they would be the sites for each playoff game. The National Championship game would rotate between Pasadena, Glendale, Arlington, New Orleans, and the Orange Bowl

Na it's one of the other playoffs or bowl game can't have both it becomes silly and bowl games become meaningless.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3172311 said:
Na it's one of the other playoffs or bowl game can't have both it becomes silly and bowl games become meaningless.
Bowl games already are meaningless. I don't see why today's UNC-Pitt game is any more meaningless with a playoff system than it is right now. Heck, even the big bowl games are meaningless. Does anyone really care who wins Iowa-GA Tech? Game is less than 2 weeks away, and plenty of great seats are still available.

A heck of a lot more people would be watching the Orange/Sugar/Rose/Fiesta Bowls if those games represented the quaterfinals and semi-finals.
 

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Would it be so crazy to award some BCS points the follwing year for any bowl win?

So even the lesser bowls have some meaning. Even if theyre not in the playoffs
 

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So you play maybe one OOC game? That doesn't sound like much fun. There was a writup a few weeks ago on the Rivals network I believe with the perfect playoff system that addresses all questions and concerns about a playoff. You need to have the teams hosting games at home. Championship at a bowl site. You can still have the bowls independent of the playoff system. Don't make the playoffs, go to a bowl. and even early round losers could go to bowls.

The bowls SUCK. Most of the matchups are worse than we get on TV during the regular season. I don't care about most of them. More money will be made in a playoff system. It's not up to the BCS, they are a seperate entity from the NCAA. The NCAA doesn't recognize a champion in the FBS.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3172351 said:
Would it be so crazy to award some BCS points the follwing year for any bowl win?

So even the lesser bowls have some meaning. Even if theyre not in the playoffs
On the one hand I would say it is crazy to have a team's performance in the bowl season actually help (or hurt) them in a brand new season starting the next year.

But, on the other hand, in a certain sense that is already happening. A team's bowl game performance can and does affect their preseason ranking the following season, which goes a long way towards figuring things out.
 

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Rogah;3172519 said:
On the one hand I would say it is crazy to have a team's performance in the bowl season actually help (or hurt) them in a brand new season starting the next year.

But, on the other hand, in a certain sense that is already happening. A team's bowl game performance can and does affect their preseason ranking the following season, which goes a long way towards figuring things out.

And that rep goes a long way. But if Utah keeps winning bowl games then at some point theyd be impossible to ignore.
 

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Muhast;3171886 said:
Well one way to eliminate the "dark horse" teams and still not implement a playoff system could be as simple as using an NFL blue print for scheduling..

You play you typical conference games, and that can be worked out however you please.. But instead of scheduling 2-3 cupcake teams, one of those games will be picked for you (based on standings the year before).

For instance, let's use this year's standings..

Florida finished 2nd in the SEC, next season Florida would be matched up with a 2nd ranked team from another conference. Let's use Big 10 for this scenario.

Florida(2nd in SEC) would play Iowa(2nd in big 10) for one of it's games the following season.

The scheduling could be tweaked to get a system that is fair, but using a simple thing like that you could still keep the BCS system, and by scheduling like that (adding one tough game additional to each schedule) you'd help eliminate some of the unbeaten teams from the championship talk.

That would be a simple and feasible way to knock teams like Utah, Boise, TCU and such out of the race... Or if those teams win with a tougher schedule, it could alternatively be a good thing as well b/c they would have a tougher strength of schedule due to this, and maybe justify their place amongst the top teams.

it's just an idea, and it's rather simple. I will admit that, however I think it's a good idea to work with, it would need to be tweaked though.

Imagine Boise playing USC one week, or Cincinnati playing Alabama or Utah vs Ga Tech.

Not only could you get some really interesting regular season matchups by simply changing one game on the schedule with the "Previous season standings" but you'd either eliminate the dark horse teams or prove they are worthy of a big game.

Thoughts?
That's interesting. That way the BCS could still have their bowl games, but the fans would get to see some of the power houses play that would normally be too scared to play each other.
 

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theogt;3171961 said:
Totally false. The BCS and everyone involved would make much more money in a playoff system, because each game would mean more and would draw more viewers, thus more advertising, thus more money.

I'm a fan of college football. I'm a huge football fan. But I don't watch hardly any of the bowl games, because they're meaningless and boring. That would change for me and millions of other football fans if they were actually playoff games.
Why do you think the BCS prefers bowl games over a playoff system? Also if a playoff system were implimented how would that affect the length of the season.

I would prefer a playoff system btw, but then again I'm not exactly a huge fan of college football. I only really follow Oklahoma State and OU.
 

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Cover 2;3174439 said:
That's interesting. That way the BCS could still have their bowl games, but the fans would get to see some of the power houses play that would normally be too scared to play each other.


I think its a good idea! :) I only ask that they rename the BCS after me instead .
 
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