I Want To Believe In Dak

Why no one wants to talks about Jerry sabotaging 2024 season. Now many are using 2024 stats as the standard of going forward. 2024 season fail before it even started. What's interesting is we have tons of archived threads proving its exactly what fans expected but now we think/thought all the same defensive/offensive stats from 2024 should have been more competitive. My question is how or with what talent or decent coaching staff.

This is why IMO we should not put much weight into any stats from last years. Jerry trashed the season before ever started.


**** sit out free agency......forcing several backup players into starting roles
****forced MM to coach his final season
****refused to fire MM, KNOWING he would unlikely bring him back
****refused to sign players for his lame-duck defensive coordinator
***Sign Dak to the largest conract in the league a couple of month before the season started but refused to provide any support.
 
DallasEast said:
Prediction: four pages minimum. The sky's the limit.
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Some people seem to love these threads and some people don't (although they are always participating,,, go figure).

In all seriousness, what does admin think about this type of activity? Given it is post draft and pre everything else is the dysfunctional bickering welcome for the "activity", or is a less active, more peaceful vibe preferred?
 
Patrick Mahomes, Philly ate that team for lunch. Shows what happens to a great quarterback when his offensive line fails.
You’re only as good as your team.
If this line can play like a squad. , rather than individuals and if this defense can stop the run. It’s going to be a very interesting season. We have so many former first round draft picks on the squad this year should help the rookies out tremendously
 
b0xZZ said:
But I just can't. Dak has obviously flashed some top shelf ability at times in his career but going on 9 years in the league all he really has accomplished are some humiliating bad performances in the few playoff appearances he's made. I won't get into the horrible contract extension he received here.

The worst part is he's been injury prone and obviously regressing from an ability standpoint. In his last 8 games he's 3-5 with a 45 QBR. My point is he was never enough and he's not getting better. So is Pickens better than Cooks, yea of course he is but is he that much better that he makes that kind of difference in Dak's play? Is Tyler Booker better than Zach Martin? The point I'm making is that I don't think you can make enough good moves on the offensive side that drastically changes the one thing that ultimately determines the outcome of games and that's Dak himself. I obviously hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.

As a Tennessee fan Milton ain't it either, more upside than Rush yes but he's a Temu Dak.
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All you do is complain about Dak. Year after year after year. Dak isn't going anywhere for the next 3-4 years.
 
Vtwin said:
Some people seem to love these threads and some people don't (although they are always participating,,, go figure).

In all seriousness, what does admin think about this type of activity? Given it is post draft and pre everything else is the dysfunctional bickering welcome for the "activity", or is a less active, more peaceful vibe preferred?
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If discussion has presentation of relevant points used in sustainment observations in achievement, then those need more than stereotype and also valid reasons to carry the burden to disprove. That all involves quality of a discussion, IF it is not just sustained insult...agreed.
 
I don’t have a grudge against Dak, but he isn’t mobile anymore. There’s like a 75% chance he’s gonna miss time this year.

This year is so weird for me, but while I can acknowledge we had a pretty decent offseason, it’s overshadowed by holding onto Dak instead of just fully committing to a rebuild
 
Vtwin said:
Some people seem to love these threads and some people don't (although they are always participating,,, go figure).

In all seriousness, what does admin think about this type of activity? Given it is post draft and pre everything else is the dysfunctional bickering welcome for the "activity", or is a less active, more peaceful vibe preferred?
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Bickering, it even starts to lose the point after a while. Hate without reasoning
Approval without justification. It loses it substance.
 
b0xZZ said:
But I just can't. Dak has obviously flashed some top shelf ability at times in his career but going on 9 years in the league all he really has accomplished are some humiliating bad performances in the few playoff appearances he's made. I won't get into the horrible contract extension he received here.

The worst part is he's been injury prone and obviously regressing from an ability standpoint. In his last 8 games he's 3-5 with a 45 QBR. My point is he was never enough and he's not getting better. So is Pickens better than Cooks, yea of course he is but is he that much better that he makes that kind of difference in Dak's play? Is Tyler Booker better than Zach Martin? The point I'm making is that I don't think you can make enough good moves on the offensive side that drastically changes the one thing that ultimately determines the outcome of games and that's Dak himself. I obviously hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.

As a Tennessee fan Milton ain't it either, more upside than Rush yes but he's a Temu Dak.
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so essentially you just agreed the trade for pickens was a stupid move. if the QB sucks so much, then why keep adding WRs. its not going to get us anywhere.

we needed to invest heavily on defense like Philly has done. instead we keep going for flash. for offense. its sexy. it sells tickets and merchandise. its not a move championship type teams make.
 
I mean it seems clear that the front office realizes he needs to be surrounded by uber talent to succeed, that he can't just lift up players around him so they have invested heavily in the OL and now have a decent stable of weapons with Lamb, Pickens, Ferguson at TE, etc. If Blue is as good as some say, there should be zero excuses for Dak at this point (although I am not a believer in Shotty as a coach at this point).
 
CCBoy said:
Dak's rookie year, 2016 season he earned trust starting there. He lost and was robbed by the refs against Green Bay. That should have been a win and against a team next that he had already beaten in the NFC Championship.

One or two wins in the playoffs there and he would still have a winning record in the playoffs right now. Fact,

That Green Bay being a win would put him at 3 wins in 5 games right now...
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Just for the facts you are pressing so hard for: Dak Prescott as of now has 2 wins and 5 playoff losses. Not 5 playoff games played.
10 second google search: dak prescott playoff record.

But as i remember we had that conversation before: You are the one who is not able to read sources, dont post sources but argues with wrong facts.
Not to even mention your bold statements about your believes that you seem to need to keep your sanity in check.

Well nothing has changed. And i am quite sure you put the same work in to better your educational working habits since then as did Dak with his playing abilities. Zero.
 
McKDaddy said:
If they had just cut bait, this offseason could have been epic.
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Exactly..........Jerry screwd up the perfect opportunity to really take this team in a different direction.

He had the chance to bring in a different QB after a decade of playoff futility AND bring in a proven HC.....he did neither
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
so essentially you just agreed the trade for pickens was a stupid move. if the QB sucks so much, then why keep adding WRs. its not going to get us anywhere.

we needed to invest heavily on defense like Philly has done. instead we keep going for flash. for offense. its sexy. it sells tickets and merchandise. its not a move championship type teams make.
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I see what they are doing though. They have invested so much into the QB position that they need to do whatever they can to get something out of him. That means ramping up the talent on offense.

And FWIW, the Philly analogy isn't the best. Yes, they invested in the defense last year but they also put a really talented offense in place as well. Smith was a 1st round WR, traded a bunch of picks for Brown, signed Barkley to a big deal, invested three high round picks in the OL, etc.
 
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b0xZZ said:
But I just can't. Dak has obviously flashed some top shelf ability at times in his career but going on 9 years in the league all he really has accomplished are some humiliating bad performances in the few playoff appearances he's made. I won't get into the horrible contract extension he received here.

The worst part is he's been injury prone and obviously regressing from an ability standpoint. In his last 8 games he's 3-5 with a 45 QBR. My point is he was never enough and he's not getting better. So is Pickens better than Cooks, yea of course he is but is he that much better that he makes that kind of difference in Dak's play? Is Tyler Booker better than Zach Martin? The point I'm making is that I don't think you can make enough good moves on the offensive side that drastically changes the one thing that ultimately determines the outcome of games and that's Dak himself. I obviously hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.

As a Tennessee fan Milton ain't it either, more upside than Rush yes but he's a Temu Dak.
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i don’t trust him at all, but still believe he’s capable if that makes any sense. if nothing else, they’ve definitely set him up for success.
 
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TwentyOne said:
Just for the facts you are pressing so hard for: Dak Prescott has right now 2 wins and 5 playoff losses. Not 5 playoff games played.
10 second google search: dak prescott playoff stats

But as i remember we had that conversation before: You are the one who is not able to read sources, dont post sources but argues with wrong facts.

Well nothing has changed. And i am quite sure you put the same work in to better your educational working habits since then as did Dak with his playing abilities. Zero.
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Just posting fact...trying hard is the act displayed above by yourself to try and not address but instead insult the poster of facts in discussion.

As to source, you really don't but try to explain away with unfounded excuse.

You can end all your 'We's' here and now. :popcorn:
 
8 years of inconsistent accuracy

Yeah, now that he's over 30 I believe :facepalm:

No pressure, he's fine
So is any other QB, like Cooper Rush for instance.


Under Pressure? There's those who make the clutch throw.

There's those who make the clutch throw, TO THE DEFENDER.
There's those who make a 2 yd pass on 3rd and 7.(pads stats)
Believe your eyes people, nothing else.
 
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