I Want To Believe In Dak

I remember when we were playing the Eagles in November and Lance came in for one play. Then they took him out. I screamed at the TV “then why did you trade for him!”. Then I stopped watching that game and pretty much gave up on the season. There are 3 main reasons I was furious and felt the staff completely botched the Lance ordeal after Dak went down.
1. Play him and see if he can develop into a backup. We know what we had in Rush but we didn’t know what we had in Lance. Lance could have played into a backup role thus making the 4th rounder worth it. Or he would have sucked and we know also making the 4th rounder worth it.
2. If he played so well then he could have gotten a starter gig or a higher contract than we were willing to give him and we could have gotten a comp pick out of it, therefore minimizing the hit of losing the 4th.
3. The season was over when Dak went down, actually we were 3-5 so it was looking pretty over anyway. Play Lance and get a better draft pick or allow situations 1 or 2 to develop.

But no, our team decided to get empty wins with Rush. Now Rush is gone and our draft spot was screwed up.

So my opinion of the Lance debacle is I liked the gamble and I think when Dak went down they completely botched it as far as they should have played him.

Let’s pretend we played Lance all season after Dak got hurt we probably don’t win 7 games. So our draft spot is better and maybe we trade down with someone and still get Booker and pick up a 4th rounder. Or Lance played good enough to earn QB2 and we sign him and not trade a 5th for Milton. Just overall I feel by not playing him they gave the 49ers a 4th rounder. Sorry that was so long winded but needed to vent cuz it still makes me mad.

I hope Milton comes out in PS and establishes firmly he is QB2 so we don’t repeat the Lance debacle.
Totally agree it was a botched plan to play Cooper Rush.

He was not the future of the franchise definitely needed to see what Lance could do and if he didn't win another game so be it we could have probably traded down and picked up a defensive tackle along with Booker.

As it was we just gave that fourth round pick away pretty much the same thing we're going to do with Mingo now that we have Pickens.

But that is why we will not play in the Super bowl because mismanagement always keeps us a few players away
 
At this point in time, I suspect Dak really needs to believe in himself. He's been injured with several problems to his ankles, had his hamstring separated from its leg bone and generally needs to make a meaningful return to his position. Wishy-washy fans tend to find fault with him, to his dismay.

Whether he succeeds or not is actually a testy situation. He has a contract that other QBs can only wish that they had. As the starter, he'll surely be counted upon to perform at his best in 2025.

His return to action is destined to be followed closely. The success of the Cowboys in 2025 will rest greatly upon his performance. True blue fans should wish him well if they really care about their team and its standing in 2025. Game one is to be played vs. the Eagles, a difficult task for any QB.
Yep, and he's been given weapons/protection to succeed. It's not so much about what he's failed at, it's that he now has a chance to prove himself.

There are some Dak fans that have turned their attention to (the continued) attack on Jerry and the Defensive holes.......no, 2025 is purely a watershed, to assess whether Dak can manage the Offense and we build on that and includes whether it's resourceful to spend on a WR1A.
 
The offensive line will be improved and Dak has 2 great WRs. Our running game will be improved and our TEs are adequate to good. This is the season Dak proves the haters right or the homers right because no one will be able to argue he is not supported. Me personally I hope Dak has another all pro season because that will mean we’re competitive. I just hope he doesn’t suffer a season ending injury.

I wouldn’t be so quick to flush Milton down the toilet. His NFL film looks decent. Let’s give him a chance.
Feels like we've been down the "make it or break it year" path a few times now with a younger, better version of Dak.

He didn't make it. And now he's older, slower...like running in molasses slow, and injury prone.

Still working on that footwork though, so that's promising.
 
But I just can't. Dak has obviously flashed some top shelf ability at times in his career but going on 9 years in the league all he really has accomplished are some humiliating bad performances in the few playoff appearances he's made. I won't get into the horrible contract extension he received here.

The worst part is he's been injury prone and obviously regressing from an ability standpoint. In his last 8 games he's 3-5 with a 45 QBR. My point is he was never enough and he's not getting better. So is Pickens better than Cooks, yea of course he is but is he that much better that he makes that kind of difference in Dak's play? Is Tyler Booker better than Zach Martin? The point I'm making is that I don't think you can make enough good moves on the offensive side that drastically changes the one thing that ultimately determines the outcome of games and that's Dak himself. I obviously hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.

As a Tennessee fan Milton ain't it either, more upside than Rush yes but he's a Temu Dak.
He’s due to make 400M in lifetime earnings from Dallas.
 
Feels like we've been down the "make it or break it year" path a few times now with a younger, better version of Dak.

He didn't make it. And now he's older, slower...like running in molasses slow, and injury prone.

Still working on that footwork though, so that's promising.
And we let Rush and Lance walk.

Grier.
 
Feels like we've been down the "make it or break it year" path a few times now with a younger, better version of Dak.

He didn't make it. And now he's older, slower...like running in molasses slow, and injury prone.

Still working on that footwork though, so that's promising.
You're right, but that's the mess Jerry created with the contract and Dak has to face up to. If Dak was taking the money and gambling on his ability to make up for 'working with less' CAP pie, then he must be delighted as this is a very decent Offense.
 
But I just can't. Dak has obviously flashed some top shelf ability at times in his career but going on 9 years in the league all he really has accomplished are some humiliating bad performances in the few playoff appearances he's made. I won't get into the horrible contract extension he received here.

The worst part is he's been injury prone and obviously regressing from an ability standpoint. In his last 8 games he's 3-5 with a 45 QBR. My point is he was never enough and he's not getting better. So is Pickens better than Cooks, yea of course he is but is he that much better that he makes that kind of difference in Dak's play? Is Tyler Booker better than Zach Martin? The point I'm making is that I don't think you can make enough good moves on the offensive side that drastically changes the one thing that ultimately determines the outcome of games and that's Dak himself. I obviously hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.

As a Tennessee fan Milton ain't it either, more upside than Rush yes but he's a Temu Dak.
I don't know if Dak will be back to his old self after the injury. But if he is, it only takes one good year. QBs don't play in a void. They need the system and team around them.

The problem with the Cowboys is, with their build through the draft only SOP, they need an elite QB to make up for the lack of talent. We have to hope the team comes together with a few lucky drafts. Zero chance Hurts, Garoppolo, or Purdy go to SBs on the Cowboys. Green Bay is similar to us. Look how many times Rodgers got to a SB. The Cowboys management I think sometimes lacks situational awareness.
 
Troy believes. :D
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lol whatever bro I can have an opinion on the starting QB doesn't mean I won't watch the trainwreck, I've been doing it for 30 years right along with you.
Actually, I've been doing it for 51 years. I still have my Glen Carano Jersey! Lol
 
Actually, I've been doing it for 51 years. I still have my Glen Carano Jersey! Lol
I have an autographed picture of the 'lil General.

For the record, the Cowboys haven't just given up winning.

Lots of 'fans' have adopted crying, instead!:thumbup:
 
When the 2025 season kicks off in September, Dak Prescott will be chasing three Dallas Cowboys’ franchise regular-season passing records.

Assuming no injuries, he should easily surpass all three marks and fairly early in the campaign at that. Especially now that he has a legitimate WR2 in George Pickens to throw to.

If he starts the full year, he’ll draw considerably closer to two other categories as well.

To get one of the two, he’ll merely need to start at quarterback.

https://insidethestar.com/dak-prescott-will-be-chasing-team-records-in-2025

Most Wins As A Starting QB​

Games Started And Played​

Completions And Attempts​

Passing Yards​

Touchdown Passes​

You were going to make me look until I understood you meant the Cowboys all team leading record... (reading too fast early in the morning LOL).

The reality is the that passing game has changed since Staubach and Aikman played the game, and the game is more "pass happy" because that's what the NFL is now geared to.

The added reality is stats are nice, but what people remember you by is how you played the game and what have you won (for better or worse).

I think Dak is an above average QB stuck on a average team controlled by a lower than average GM.

I remember seeing Randall Cunningham play and thought he was an good QB like Dak is, but when I talk to my buddies who are Fhilly fans, they only seem to remember Foles and Hurts, go figure...

Remember Air Coryell and Dan Fouts? Great football QB who never won a super bowl.
 
I have an autographed picture of the 'lil General.

For the record, the Cowboys haven't just given up winning.

Lots of 'fans' have adopted crying, instead!:thumbup:
Spoiled generation...some don't understand how hard it is to succeed. In this case, football. 31 other teams and fan bases want to win, complaining, throwing the remote at the TV or a drunk bass turd, over a bar or Into a 55 gallon trashcan has been replaced by sending memes, posting dak is a loser or Jerry is a narcissist.....I miss the Garrett Sucks, days....a much simpler time. :thumbup:;);)
 
You were going to make me look until I understood you meant the Cowboys all team leading record... (reading too fast early in the morning LOL).

The reality is the that passing game has changed since Staubach and Aikman played the game, and the game is more "pass happy" because that's what the NFL is now geared to.

The added reality is stats are nice, but what people remember you by is how you played the game and what have you won (for better or worse).

I think Dak is an above average QB stuck on a average team controlled by a lower than average GM.

I remember seeing Randall Cunningham play and thought he was an good QB like Dak is, but when I talk to my buddies who are Fhilly fans, they only seem to remember Foles and Hurts, go figure...

Remember Air Coryell and Dan Fouts? Great football QB who never won a super bowl.
Now, you glamorized a direction that looks enlightened then responded to my no hide and seek statement of fact.

He was either that good of a player with real stats or you don't amplify about his qualities.

The difference being age is a falsehood. Football is still heads head on head, and the better team works in a single game wins.

You popularize just that, popularity, in assuming functional facts are still just that, functional in age done. They are cross period accomplishment also.

Leadership directs team play that affects game changers.

And this is still the sport of football. The ball is thrown or run on each play...and that is based upon team techniques and strength of their players.

Dallas has strength of players and a good set of coaches. They aren't harmed at all by relating to the history of football.

As to Staubach and Aikman, they both had the system adapted to their specific talents. Same thing with Dak Prescott now. He is coming up on 5 all time records for Cowboy history. Very important as related to the current picture for success, now.

Good post and thanks. :starspin:
 
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Spoiled generation...some don't understand how hard it is to succeed. In this case, football. 31 other teams and fan bases want to win, complaining, throwing the remote at the TV or a drunk bass turd, over a bar or Into a 55 gallon trashcan has been replaced by sending memes, posting dak is a loser or Jerry is a narcissist.....I miss the Garrett Sucks, days....a much simpler time. :thumbup:;);)
My wife used to tell me to quit cursing at the TV, they couldn't hear me.:grin::flagwave:
 
Troy believes. :D
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Exactly, we're the same as most teams.....he makes perfect sense. We had our turn, many teams never have. Do we expect more because of the past, yes....has complaining about it of a specific player changed anything? No....will it change anything? No.....will many keep doing it, regardless? Yes.....will other fans complain and say these fans suck, change anything? No....will I keep doing it as long as they keep doing it? Yes....will we win the SB because of it? No....
 
Exactly, we're the same as most teams.....he makes perfect sense. We had our turn, many teams never have. Do we expect more because of the past, yes....has complaining about it of a specific player changed anything? No....will it change anything? No.....will many keep doing it, regardless? Yes.....will other fans complain and say these fans suck, change anything? No....will I keep doing it as long as they keep doing it? Yes....will we win the SB because of it? No....
Hell, beat the Eagles, by at least 10! :starspin: :flagwave: Loved the horse? Go Cowboy!
 

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