If Aikman were the QB

[GMO415]

He probably gets concussed in that game against the Falcons.

Didn't see that coming! Hahahaha

 

[kskboys]

He was a very unique player, for sure. He was much more like QBs who proceeded him, in that, he was capable of playing the game, as you outline above. He was also very, very talented. While Marino may have been a better pure passer, he was not as gifted a pinpoint passer who could literally thread the needle. Troy was also much more mobile then Marino was, and people forget what Troy was like when he came out of UCLA. Had you put him in a different Offense then, he could have been one of those guys who threw for 4 thousand yards and 30 TDs IMO.

Troy was not typical in that he was a strong armed guy who could really bring it and simply entered the NFL and tried to use that to force the ball, which usually result in INTs. Now, a lot of that is due to Norv's Offense and the ability of our receivers to execute it, as designed. Either way, the ball still had to be delivered accurately, on time and with enough velocity to allow for completions before DBs even had a chance to react. It was almost unfair.

To me, his biggest asset was the fact that he could have blown it up but he didn't. When a lot of QBs around him were demanding to throw more, he valued balance. We all know Jerry and now, we understand exactly how much power players actually have, where Jerry is concerned. Had Troy wanted to force the Offense, he easily could have. He could have demanded that we go towards more of a pass oriented scheme. He never did that and that's a big reason, as to why we were able to be so dominate, for as long as we were.

Mobility? W/ Aikmann and Marino? I'd prolly give Marino a slight edge, but neither was mobile. Yes, I'm aware that Troy had more rushing yardage, but Marino simply didn't run, rather scrambling to pass.

 

[StarBoyz83]

That's just silly

Not really. The were both good but I think Romo was better. Aikman just played on way better teams and had real coaches.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I always thought this was a good piece on Troy’s career, written 12 years ago by none other than Skip Bayless himself (back when Skip actually was still a writer and not a full-time troll).

http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/060807

 

[Aviano90]

You don't. That's a lazy way too judge.

It may be lazy but it is the only thing that matters. I would rather win with a horrible QB than lose with a great QB. Winning matters. Arguing which QB is better doesn’t matter at all.

It’s like the people trying to argue with me that Barry Sanders was a better back than Emmitt Smith. I don’t care to even argue the point. Barry can be called the greatest RB ever for all I care. I will take Emmitt’s 3 titles.

People can claim Aikman is the worst QB for all I care. His titles can’t be taken away.

I will take the winning and concede the argument on who is better.

 

[kskboys]

It may be lazy but it is the only thing that matters. I would rather win with a horrible QB than lose with a great QB. Winning matters. Arguing which QB is better doesn’t matter at all.

It’s like the people trying to argue with me that Barry Sanders was a better back than Emmitt Smith. I don’t care to even argue the point. Barry can be called the greatest RB ever for all I care. I will take Emmitt’s 3 titles.

People can claim Aikman is the worst QB for all I care. His titles can’t be taken away.

I will take the winning and concede the argument on who is better.

Of course, but now you're entering into a different category. You're changing from judging a QB to judging a QB's goals, an entirely different subject matter. Of course I'd take the super bowl title, anyone would. But, that's simply not what we're discussing.

We sit here and argue all day. That is what this site is for. And none of the arguments matter. At all. So, if that's your take, why are you here?!!!!!!

 

[the_h0wey]

Not really. The were both good but I think Romo was better. Aikman just played on way better teams and had real coaches.

You clearly never watched Aikman play.

 

[GMO415]

You clearly never watched Aikman play.

Perhaps one of thee most accurate QBs to play the game.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I watched every game of romo and troys career, and tony was hand down more talented. Even Troy has said so(which I’ll admit doesn’t mean much because he maybe just was being polite) Maybe it’s unpopular opinion. Tony would have won all those say Super Bowls as Troy, it’s a team sport.

talent wise, yes Romo was better. If you're talking about getting it done and all things being equal, i'd rather Troy. Kind of the Eli effect. Back to the OP, I think we would've made the playoffs with either Romo or Aikman

 

[Aviano90]

Of course, but now you're entering into a different category. You're changing from judging a QB to judging a QB's goals, an entirely different subject matter. Of course I'd take the super bowl title, anyone would. But, that's simply not what we're discussing.

We sit here and argue all day. That is what this site is for. And none of the arguments matter. At all. So, if that's your take, why are you here?!!!!!!

Good point. If none of it matters, why care if it's lazy that people use wins to judge when that's the ultimate goal?

 

[Sarek]

Why stop with Aikman, might as well keep going further back in history.

 

[atlantacowboy]

You clearly never watched Aikman play.

The younger cowboy fans are a sad lot.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Why stop with Aikman, might as well keep going further back in history.

This is what I call the "insert HOF QB argument". Pick any HOF QB and someone will say "but they had a better supporting cast than romo"..

 

[GMO415]

The younger cowboy fans are a sad lot.

Hard to imagine this team was a dynasty twice!

 

[Aviano90]

This is what I call the "insert HOF QB argument". Pick any HOF QB and someone will say "but they had a better supporting cast than romo"..

How To Prop Up A QB 101

• Highlight positives of QB (4th best QB rating of all time, 4th quarter come from behind wins)
  
• Shield QB from any blame while blaming others (all QBs throw interceptions, QB never had a defense)
  
• Diminish successful QBs success (Brady wouldn't win in Cleveland, Brady couldn't win without a top 5 defense, Brady wouldn't win without Belichick)
  
• Highlight other QBs mistakes (Brady fumbled ball in SB)
• Claim said QB would be successful in different situation (QB would win if he were on the 90's Cowboys)

Should've, could've, would've is undefeated as Jim Harbaugh would say.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

How To Prop Up A QB 101

• Highlight positives of QB (4th best QB rating of all time, 4th quarter come from behind wins)
  
• Shield QB from any blame while blaming others (all QBs throw interceptions, QB never had a defense)
  
• Diminish successful QBs success (Brady wouldn't win in Cleveland, Brady couldn't win without a top 5 defense, Brady wouldn't win without Belichick)
  
• Highlight other QBs mistakes (Brady fumbled ball in SB)
• Claim said QB would be successful in different situation (QB would win if he were on the 90's Cowboys)

Where do these trolls come from?

 

[StarBoyz83]

You clearly never watched Aikman play.

I did but I was younger. Everybody's got their own opinion. Only people I have a problem with are the ones who say aikman was a winner and romo was a loser. Common sense lacks there.

 

[kskboys]

Good point. If none of it matters, why care if it's lazy that people use wins to judge when that's the ultimate goal?

Because this convo was about judging QB's.

 

[atlantacowboy]

How To Prop Up A QB 101

• Highlight positives of QB (4th best QB rating of all time, 4th quarter come from behind wins)
  
• Shield QB from any blame while blaming others (all QBs throw interceptions, QB never had a defense)
  
• Diminish successful QBs success (Brady wouldn't win in Cleveland, Brady couldn't win without a top 5 defense, Brady wouldn't win without Belichick)
  
• Highlight other QBs mistakes (Brady fumbled ball in SB)
• Claim said QB would be successful in different situation (QB would win if he were on the 90's Cowboys)

Should've, could've, would've is undefeated as Jim Harbaugh would say.

I was a Romo fan but i've been watching Cowboy football since 1975 and I'd put him 4th after Danny White who was robbed by Montana of super bowl glory. In any case, he's no better than #3 behind Aikman and Staubach (who also had a better supporting cast...........hehe)

 

[Aviano90]

I was a Romo fan but i've been watching Cowboy football since 1975 and I'd put him 4th after Danny White who was robbed by Montana of super bowl glory. In any case, he's no better than #3 behind Aikman and Staubach (who also had a better supporting cast...........hehe)

I was a Romo fan, too and often used those techniques while trying to convince others Romo didn't suck and didn't need to be cut. I just can't stand seeing it used to make him out to be some all time great QB that was given zero chance at success, and automatically assume if we insert him into a different situation that he would be guaranteed success.

While Aikman and Staubach may have had better supporting casts, they also played against much tougher competition.