If Bill Parcells where still here would we have drafted Brady Quinn?

[superpunk]

had he made these picks i'd be darn happy. he drafted quality OL, yea, i'd give grief for yet ANOTHER LB, i'd be just as happy with clevelands 1st rounder next year and as for the rest of our draft - whatever. we'll see what happens.

some people just don't get that parcells shoved a lot of people the wrong way and keep insisting parcells is mr happy all should love or something.

you exaggerate too much. It is possible to make a point without hyperbole. Just FWIW.

it ain't that big a deal - not everyone liked parcells and unfortunately, there are some who will defend him to the annoying ware vs. merriman debate levels.

I'm sure it's just one side spouting off. It doesn't take two to debate or anything.

 

[Sarge]

My guess is he probably would have taken a TE in the first round........and possibly the second as well.

 

[BouncingCheese]

Absolutely, considering Romo's play at the end of the year. (This does not my views about Romo's play) Quinn would be a Cowboy had BP been here.

 

[BouncingCheese]

My guess is he probably would have taken a TE in the first round........and possibly the second as well.

hehehe..... and a ham sandwhich in the third....

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Ummm NO..

 

[GlitzCowboy]

I believe he would have. The connection would have been to strong, not to mention the appeal of it. I bet Jimmy had lots of faith in Troy, too, or as much as one could have in an unplayed rookie, but then still turned right around and used up the next year's #1 to draft Steve in the supplemental, a player he was super-familar with. There is an advantage in having 2 quality prospects at the QB position, and when the opportunity arises a smart coach would jump all over it, regardless how much faith he has in one. It's not as if our guy was fully established. Quinn and Romo would have fought it out and in the end we would have been that much better for it, regardless who won the job. And as Parcells has shown in the past, when a qb that appeals to him that much comes around, he doesn't hesitate. Quinn could easily have been one of those guys and to say without a doubt that he wouldn't have changed anything about this draft had he still been here, is just presumptious.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I believe if Parcells where still here we would have drafted Brady Quinn...your thoughts?

We all know that Bill loves options... BUT... in this case... Spencer and the extra picks superceded that.

And if the above was not the case... I dont think he drafts a QB to compete with Romo... but he does get some young gun in there to keep Romo "alert" for lack of a better word.

 

[iceberg]

you exaggerate too much. It is possible to make a point without hyperbole. Just FWIW.

I'm sure it's just one side spouting off. It doesn't take two to debate or anything.

i guess i can get clever pictures up there and lopsided insinuations instead. if you'd talk w/o the biting sarcasm maybe i'd do the same. you wanna lob pics and vague insults, i'll do the same.

WHO CARES if parcells made these picks or not? like i said , i'd be damn happy overall and yes, i am happy w/this draft. even w/another lb in the 1st.

so mope around and keep implying parcells got a bum rap and i'll just move along now.

 

[superpunk]

i guess i can get clever pictures up there and lopsided insinuations instead. if you'd talk w/o the biting sarcasm maybe i'd do the same. you wanna lob pics and vague insults, i'll do the same.

WHO CARES if parcells made these picks or not? like i said , i'd be damn happy overall and yes, i am happy w/this draft. even w/another lb in the 1st.

so mope around and keep implying parcells got a bum rap and i'll just move along now.

Speculating about how the forum would have reacted to Parcells making another LB pick and OL picks is implying he got a bum rap?

I see you in thread to thread, complaining about all these people who don't exist. These shameless Parcells sycophants who have nothing better to do than lick his butthole and declare how great he is, when in fact they are generally just responses to unnecessary shots at a coach who did us alot of good. Then you claim the martyr role

"heh, no. not really, i suppose. but sometimes it's just fun to tweak the nose of the ever-present never-run parcells defense team. they wanna act like parcells is some deity and that just gets old to me."

Boo-hoo. This is no different than what supercows5x does, with his perceived Jerry-lovers that plague the world. They simply don't exist. You've both created some alternate reality in which you are compelled to "tweak the nose" of people whose noses don't need tweaking. Whatever. Come down off your troll-cross. We need the firewood.

 

[iceberg]

Well, isn't that just special. Like I said, if Parcells had made THESE picks....

Speculating about how the forum would have reacted to Parcells making another LB pick and OL picks is implying he got a bum rap?

I see you in thread to thread, complaining about all these people who don't exist. These shameless Parcells sycophants who have nothing better to do than lick his butthole and declare how great he is, when in fact they are generally just responses to unnecessary shots at a coach who did us alot of good. Then you claim the martyr role

"heh, no. not really, i suppose. but sometimes it's just fun to tweak the nose of the ever-present never-run parcells defense team. they wanna act like parcells is some deity and that just gets old to me."

Boo-hoo. This is no different than what supercows5x does, with his perceived Jerry-lovers that plague the world. They simply don't exist. You've both created some alternate reality in which you are compelled to "tweak the nose" of people whose noses don't need tweaking. Whatever. Come down off your troll-cross. We need the firewood.

you're the one whining about "wah - if parcells made these picks people would be whining - wah wah!"

and i flat out said if he made 'em, i'd be happy w/'em cause i'm happy with the picks on their own.

you seem to miss all the times i DO GIVE PARCELLS CREDIT to fabricate this "image" of me YOU NEED to see - why? cause I DON'T EXIST to the degree you say i do.

so when i say people need their nose tweaked sometimes - look at yourself and the "wah, if parcells made these picks people would complain!!!" crap.

WHO WOULD COMPLAIN?

not me - and i've already said so. the most i did say was i'd get exasperate at ANOTHER lb but i'd love the rest of the picks. so did you make up your own type of poster that doesn't exist? or did you not imply "people would complain" and i just totally misread the intent of your post.

yes, i like to "argue". call to all - raise your hand if surprised...

no hands up i see.

but like you also pointed out - it takes two and right now it's you and i going at it. you wanna call me a troll, have at it. i've been called worse by better. but the people i refer to do exist - see alexander pointing to 2 rings as proof parcells knows what he's doing and as such, above reproach. do i take it too far? probably - but i see you here with me, don't i?

parcells did more good for the cowboys than bad. that's painfully obvious.

i don't like parcells. that's just as painfully obvious.

however i do try to be objective and hopefully even moreso now that he's gone. if you don't see that, then maybe you're doing what you feel i'm doing - making stuff up or ignoring some facets to focus on the ones i want to see.

that alone is pretty common in us all. if you think you don't do it too, well - fine. you do, or don't do, that as the case may be. also - it's possible to make a point w/o sarcasm and pictures from the past, fwiw. you tend to do that a lot also. i guess your habits are ok but others - well they should stop and post your way. : )

 

[superpunk]

You called yourself a troll. I simply quoted you.

I responded to jackrussell's speculation.(ie it was not me who brought Parcells up) I don't go from thread to thread talking about how great Parcells is, I don't feel the need. I'll defend what he did when necessary, but I darn sure won't say anything about him just to "tweak" people's noses.

You, OTOH....

Maybe jack will come back and we can do some more ridiculous speculating. My nose needs more "tweak".

 

[iceberg]

You called yourself a troll. I simply quoted you.

I responded to jackrussell's speculation.(ie it was not me who brought Parcells up) I don't go from thread to thread talking about how great Parcells is, I don't feel the need. I'll defend what he did when necessary, but I darn sure won't say anything about him just to "tweak" people's noses.

You, OTOH....

Maybe jack will come back and we can do some more ridiculous speculating. My nose needs more "tweak".

show me where i called myself a troll. "tweaking" a whiners nose doesn't qualify.

wait - could you be "exaggerating" or taking things to an extreme I DID NOT PUT THEM????

to quote you:
you exaggerate too much. It is possible to make a point without hyperbole. Just FWIW.

wow - amazing when your own insults fit you. now all of a sudden JR is involved. not sure why, but ok.

you defend when you think is necessary (seems ok for you) and i'll post my own opinions good or bad when i think is necessary (seems a party foul to you) and we'll go from there.

you wanna take "nose tweaking" to an extreme and exaggerate - that's up to you. but come on down from the hypocracy wagon when you get done cause i never put it there.

 

[superpunk]

show me where i called myself a troll. "tweaking" a whiners nose doesn't qualify.

wait - could you be "exaggerating" or taking things to an extreme I DID NOT PUT THEM????

to quote you:
you exaggerate too much. It is possible to make a point without hyperbole. Just FWIW.

wow - amazing when your own insults fit you. now all of a sudden JR is involved. not sure why, but ok.

you defend when you think is necessary (seems ok for you) and i'll post my own opinions good or bad when i think is necessary (seems a party foul to you) and we'll go from there.

you wanna take "nose tweaking" to an extreme and exaggerate - that's up to you. but come on down from the hypocracy wagon when you get done cause i never put it there.

In the context of the thread I took that from, what you said that you do - is without a doubt trolling.

"In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding."

In case you're wondering - yes - what you said does indeed fall under that umbrella. There's no if's, and's or but's about it. Nothing I said was hypocritical, no matter how you spell it.

 

[theogt]

*fart*

 

[JPM]

*fart*

*sniff*

you stink.

 

[superpunk]

What with all the bodily functions...I'll bail on the thread. Sayonara, boys!

 

[iceberg]

In the context of the thread I took that from, what you said that you do - is without a doubt trolling.

"In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding."

In case you're wondering - yes - what you said does indeed fall under that umbrella. There's no if's, and's or but's about it. Nothing I said was hypocritical, no matter how you spell it.

so putting up the church lady with an "isn't that special" tone isn't tweaking a nose or going for a reaction? it doesn't "bait" someone into responding?

and when i said "tweak their nose" is that NOW derogatory and/or imflamatory ON IT'S OWN or like most instances, would depend on how it's done? when you got rid of philo, are you saying you didn't find a "high brow" way to "tweak" his nose to get the reaction or "bait him into responding" or guiding a reaction?

like i said, you and i do the same thing differently and usually on different sides. at least i admit i can be fully annoying at times and carry things too far.