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waving monkey

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If the team can't go Wentz at #4 and thats likely I want to make the team better now.

I know the mantra is BPA and I generally agree but my twist is what most makes the team better.
It's not Tunsil thats our strong suit and the defense goes begging.

I love Elliott and would be thrilled with that pick. Zeek rest the defense and protects Romo
and moves the chains. Zeek will put "W" on th board.

But the dark horse I'm getting interested in is Deforest Buckner. His now rated at CBS @
#7 and I like him better then Bosa. Is he a "Too Tall" Buckner? He fills a need big time.

"The first thing that DeForest really improved on was his pass rushing," Don Pellum, Oregon's defensive coordinator for two years before recently getting demoted to linebackers coach, told The Register-Guard in January. "His hands got better, his hips got better, and I think that's one of the reasons he started to become a dominant force. Secondly, he took charge. A year ago when DeForest said he was coming back, I said, 'OK, we're going to put this defense in your hands. So if it's going great, we're going to pat you on the back. If it's not, we're going to come to you.'

"We may miss that more because he was so good at getting guys going. If a guy was not doing what he was supposed to be doing DeForest said, 'I got it coach.' He was so good at being that guy."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1996158/deforest-buckner
 

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He's just not a fit in a 4-3. I mean yeah, he COULD play in a 4-3 but he's a 3-4 5 technique through and through.

He plays too high and loses leverage. If we ran a 3-4 I'd consider him, but with a 4-3, I'll pass.
 

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With all the hybrid defenses and sub packages, does 3-4 or 4-3 even matter any more?

BTW, the title of this thread makes no sense, not sure what your trying to say there.
 

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He's just not a fit in a 4-3. I mean yeah, he COULD play in a 4-3 but he's a 3-4 5 technique through and through.

He plays too high and loses leverage. If we ran a 3-4 I'd consider him, but with a 4-3, I'll pass.

Now I know there's a big difference in 4 defenses and Deforest might not be that fit.
But Too Tall sure was a fit in the Dallas 4. He's a dark horse for sure but
I think he has more natural ability then Bosa. Of the two who in two years
is tearing up the offensive lines and causing the most disruption?
 

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With all the hybrid defenses and sub packages, does 3-4 or 4-3 even matter any more?

BTW, the title of this thread makes no sense, not sure what your trying to say there.

It'd pretty vague that title. I meant I want Wentz and dont think it's gona happen.
So I take the dark horse and hold my breath. It's going against the odds.
 

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Now I know there's a big difference in 4 defenses and Deforest might not be that fit.
But Too Tall sure was a fit in the Dallas 4. He's a dark horse for sure but
I think he has more natural ability then Bosa. Of the two who in two years
is tearing up the offensive lines and causing the most disruption?

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones is one of very, very few exceptions to the rule.

I don't see either one being an elite defensive player. If Buckner winds up as a 5 tech and has other decent players around him, he might end up as the better player.
 

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If the comparisons to Calais Campbell work,is DeForest worth #4?
Even with the 3/4 Cardinals defense acknowledged
 
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