If it was still the early nineties would Dak or Mahomes be playing in the NFL?

[Vtwin]

yeah, I bet you walked back and forth to school in 6 feet of snow in a blizzard, up hill both ways, while running from wolves and bears, year round....and the sissy's today take a bus!!! that was real school back then when teachers smacked you around, not like today when you are protected from getting beat up

Dude. Get control of yourself. There is help available for your drinking problem.

Once you get back on an even keel we can talk about your assertion that things aren't actually different from era to era. That football was the same in the 30s as it was in the 50s and 70s and 90s and 10s. Yup, nothing changed and any talk of the differences is just an old man screaming at the clouds.

Oh and by the way. I chased the bears and the wolves, they didn't chase me.

 

[DCBoysfan]

It didn't seem to affect Steve Young's HOF career.

 

[Vtwin]

Perfectly said

You literally just said that your favorite era was 30 years ago because the play was better. Now you're agreeing with that fruitloop who saying just the opposite?

I guess this makes you a patched member of the old man yelling at clouds club. Welcome aboard!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dude. Get control of yourself. There is help available for your drinking problem.

Once you get back on an even keel we can talk about your assertion that things aren't actually different from era to era. That football was the same in the 30s as it was in the 50s and 70s and 90s and 10s. Yup, nothing changed and any talk of the differences is just an old man screaming at the clouds.

Oh and by the way. I chased the bears and the wolves, they didn't chase me.

I don't have a drinking problem. I see a drink. I chug it. no problem.

like I said, all I hear from folks on this thread is whine whine whine whine whine whine. and more whhine. its like its that time of the month for you all...change the tampons already. ....perhaps I should serve some cheese to go with that whine.

and your argument for footbal being the same in 30s, 50s and 90s is weak weak weak....those guys in the 50s were much tougher...they didn't need face guards or hard shell helmets. they didn't care about concussions. just take a whif of smelling salt and go back in. and WRs were tackled at LOS, not like 90s when you could barely touch them and get a flag..

your facts are...well, made up stuff essentially.

btw, you are the old man in this case. you are the one along with the village drunk @leeblair who are complaining....

 

[Vtwin]

you are complaining....

You cannot find one single post in this thread that shows me complaining. Not one.

As usual, in your drunken haste to prop up your apparently very fragile ego, you've gone off half-cocked and misunderstood what you have read. You don't seem to be able to differentiate comparing from complaining.

The irony is hilarious. You come flying in and go on an epic rant about complaining when you're the only one complaining.

Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[Vtwin]

and your argument for footbal being the same in 30s, 50s and 90s is weak weak weak....those guys in the 50s were much tougher...they didn't need face guards or hard shell helmets. they didn't care about concussions. just take a whif of smelling salt and go back in. and WRs were tackled at LOS, not like 90s when you could barely touch them and get a flag..

your facts are...well, made up stuff essentially.

Ya see? Right there. Another epic rant based on another complete misreading and misunderstand of what you were told.

I never made that argument. You did. Had you read the words preceding what you responded to. Specifically, "Once you get back on an even keel we can talk about your assertion that things aren't actually different from era to era. That football was the same in the 30s as it was in the 50s and 70s and 90s and 10s. Yup, nothing changed and any talk of the differences is just an old man screaming at the clouds."

Some friendly advice from an old man. If you're prone to engaging in epic rants on a regular basis you really should make sure you fully understand what you're responding to.

Otherwise you might look like an idiot.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You cannot find one single post in this thread that shows me complaining. Not one.

As usual, in your drunken haste to prop up your apparently very fragile ego, you've gone off half-cocked and misunderstood what you have read. You don't seem to be able to differentiate comparing from complaining.

The irony is hilarious. You come flying in and go on an epic rant about complaining when you're the only one complaining.

Thanks for the chuckle.

nah, you never complain. never ever. just happy go lucky guy.

I love being drunk. I have earned it, to kick back, sit on the porch, look at the lake and drink 18 year old scotch....

no way you are child of the 70s, given how you love to exagerate....epic rant. just to freaking funny on how everything is epic this and epic that...

you are welcome. laugh it off dude. laugh it off. you take yourself way way way too seriously....its just a game!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ya see? Right there. Another epic rant based on another complete misreading and misunderstand of what you were told.

I never made that argument. You did. Had you read the words preceding what you responded to. Specifically, "Once you get back on an even keel we can talk about your assertion that things aren't actually different from era to era. That football was the same in the 30s as it was in the 50s and 70s and 90s and 10s. Yup, nothing changed and any talk of the differences is just an old man screaming at the clouds."

Some friendly advice from an old man. If you're prone to engaging in epic rants on a regular basis you really should make sure you fully understand what you're responding to.

Otherwise you might look like an idiot.

epic this and epic that...the exagerations are getting bigger by the comment, by the post.... I mean its hilarious to say, football was the same in 30s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 90s, and 10s...but then after 80 years all of a sudden it just changed...like in a snap of a finger...now that's epic BS if you ask me....someone who is trying to win a pointless argument.

let me ask, by you claiming I am having an epic rant, does that make you a bigger man dealing with something so epic, the epicness of which has never been seen before....you are such a big man, so full of s

 

[5Stars]

epic this and epic that...the exagerations are getting bigger by the comment, by the post.... I mean its hilarious to say, football was the same in 30s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 90s, and 10s...but then after 80 years all of a sudden it just changed...like in a snap of a finger...now that's epic BS if you ask me....someone who is trying to win a pointless argument.

let me ask, by you claiming I am having an epic rant, does that make you a bigger man dealing with something so epic, the epicness of which has never been seen before....you are such a big man, so full of s

Wow....

 

[NotForLong]

I think 90% of today's quarterbacks greatly benefit from the elimination of the old intentional grounding rules. The 'out of the pocket' rule saves all of the quarterbacks in the league now.

It was always fun way hung the QB make a vertical mad dash for the sideline but still get smashed as he went out of bounds

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wow....

yes wow. never seen so much BS from so many....and I am on Cowboys Forum, where exagerations and epicness runs amok

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes. He goofed mentally. As in the pressure got to him and caused him to lose focus and make mental goofs. Mental toughness is as important as physical toughness and often the two go hand in hand.

I don't believe it is natural. I myself grew up in the 70's and loved that era. I would say the mid-late 80s to the mid-late 90's was my favorite era. I have nostalgia for the 70's, j

One of the differences between you and I is that you seem to be a very literal interpreter of what you read, whereas I tend to consider the overall context of the situation and leave a bit of room for interpretation.

Since the entire discussion was centered around how the differences in the defenses would affect the new QB's if they had to play against them I gave the benefit of the doubt on the talent reference and understood it to be synonymous with toughness in that instance. I very well could be wrong about that.

Why wouldn’t I take what someone says at face value? It’s funny though you take what i say literal 100 percent of the time. But for this particular post you want to leave room for interpretation when he says exactly what he means. He said talent and meant talent.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You literally just said that your favorite era was 30 years ago because the play was better. Now you're agreeing with that fruitloop who saying just the opposite?

I guess this makes you a patched member of the old man yelling at clouds club. Welcome aboard!

I agreed with a particular part of his post.

 

[leeblair]

Yes. I guess you don't remember John Elway, Roger Staubach, Papa Manning and Fran Tarkenton. They just did not call them mobile. They called them scramblers.

Those guys were warriors.
They played the position and took the hits.
They weren't wearing skirts.

 

[Starforever]

Let me see, today's QB's faster, stronger, better dressers; I would give them the nod.
In reality, if you are an NFL QB, it would not matter the era. Each athlete adapts to current level of play.

 

[Vtwin]

Wow....

The irony and hypocrisy is even more epic than the rants.

 

[Loso86]

Back then the NFL was still real football. Quarterbacks had to be willing to take a hit while standing in and delivering a perfect pass that often made the difference in the game(s).
Not just Dak or Mahomes; would Lamar Jackson, Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts or any of the more mobile quarterbacks in today's game be playing still?
Would they even have been drafted?
In the NFL of the early nineties and before, the physical toll playing quarterback took on players caused teams to shy away from smaller guys because their mobility would disappear as the hits they took began to take their toll on them.
Nowadays the NFL penalizes any player who gets too physical when tackling a quarterback so much that they are basically playing touch football.
So why are quarterbacks still considered the highest valued player on a team?
Let's face it; the quarterback is now the easiest position to play in the NFL.

Neither

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Obsession with mobile QB’s went too far to the extreme. What still holds true is that mobility within the pocket and superior passing ability far outweighs the running QB model. I think teams need to reprioritize pocket presence and arm talent and quit looking for running backs and receivers that can pass the ball “well enough”.

 

[zerofill]

Dak would be dead.

 

[zerofill]

Obsession with mobile QB’s went too far to the extreme. What still holds true is that mobility within the pocket and superior passing ability far outweighs the running QB model. I think teams need to reprioritize pocket presence and arm talent and quit looking for running backs and receivers that can pass the ball “well enough”.

They almost never survive long. End up injured all the time. I mean unless you have a huge TE playing QB like Allen.