If Randy Gregory falls to us????

[BrAinPaiNt]

Uhmmm...well hellz yeah....would you take Warren Sapp or Randy Moss

This guy is nowhere as good as those two players were coming out IMO.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

This guy is nowhere as good as those two players were coming out IMO.

Both rated as high, before they fell. Like Sapp and Moss, Gregory will also not fall to the 27th choice.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Both rated as high, before they fell. Like Sapp and Moss, Gregory will also not fall to the 27th choice.

I hope he does not fall. He will be pulling a Josh Gordon on a team that drafts him. I hope the Cowboys take him off their board and I don't care where he is rated in Thus draft, he was and is not anywhere near the player as those two.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I hope he does not fall. He will be pulling a Josh Gordon on a team that drafts him. I hope the Cowboys take him off their board and I don't care where he is rated in Thus draft, he was and is not anywhere near the player as those two.

Only because he failed the combine Drug Test? Or were you thinking this prior to the positive results for THC.

 

[visionary]

No

 

[Rhubarb]

I sidestep and let him keep falling.

 

[AzorAhai]

Only because he failed the combine Drug Test? Or were you thinking this prior to the positive results for THC.

Its the multiple failed tests at Nebraska and then the inability to stay clean, when you KNOW with a 100% certaainty a drug test will be given at the combine. If you know for months that you have a drug test on a specific day and can't control yourself, that screams addiction and a lack of self restraint. The guy can have all the talent in the world, but if he can't stay on the field, it doesn't matter. People are just now saying this because most people just found out about it. Off the board for me, and i suspect he's off the board for quite a few teams.

 

[AsthmaField]

Nooooo thank you.

The guy is pretty talented but that is the only thing he has going for him. Heck, even that is questionable because he's so thin. If I'm running an NFL team, I just say that I will risk missing out on his talent in order to be guaranteed missing out on his troubles.

Some guys I feel like are worth the risk... Gregory, I most assuredly do not.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Nooooo thank you.

The guy is pretty talented but that is the only thing he has going for him. Heck, even that is questionable because he's so thin. If I'm running an NFL team, I just say that I will risk missing out on his talent in order to be guaranteed missing out on his troubles.

Some guys I feel like are worth the risk... Gregory, I most assuredly do not.

For all of that he sounds very articulate and smart during interviews. Yeah Gregory is a little slight but he has all the athletism and moves. Look no further than fellow NFC 4/3 DE for Seattle with Bruce Irvin = 2 backtoback Superbowls.

In the end it's the type of DE that Dallas doesn't currently possess, the type of edge rusher they are missing from the puzzle for certain match-ups and he represents value if he is actually there @27....which I doubt.

 

[AsthmaField]

For all of that he sounds very articulate and smart during interviews. Yeah Gregory is a little slight but he has all the athletism and moves. Look no further than fellow NFC 4/3 DE for Seattle with Bruce Irvin = 2 backtoback Superbowls.

In the end it's the type of DE that Dallas doesn't currently possess, the type of edge rusher they are missing from the puzzle for certain match-ups and he represents value if he is actually there @27....which I doubt.

Maybe you're right and he will be really good... but I wouldn't risk it in the first round. He can be as smart and articulate as can be, but if he can't stop smoking weed he's going to get suspended.

In 2013 Seattle moved Irvin to OLB, where they sometimes still let him rush the passer. Still, he didn't hold up well enough on the edge as a WDE and it was a mistake for the Seahawks to have used a first round pick on him.

Gregory, IMO is too tall to play OLB in Dallas' (or Seattle's) scheme. It is too difficult for a guy who is 6' 6" to change directions quickly enough.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Maybe you're right and he will be really good... but I wouldn't risk it in the first round. He can be as smart and articulate as can be, but if he can't stop smoking weed he's going to get suspended.

In 2013 Seattle moved Irvin to OLB, where they sometimes still let him rush the passer. Still, he didn't hold up well enough on the edge as a WDE and it was a mistake for the Seahawks to have used a first round pick on him.

Gregory, IMO is too tall to play OLB in Dallas' (or Seattle's) scheme. It is too difficult for a guy who is 6' 6" to change directions quickly enough.

Would you take him in the 2nd?

 

[AsthmaField]

Would you take him in the 2nd?

Hell yeah.

 

[Zekeats]

100% YES. A top 5 talent. Watch how quick this guy gets around a tackle. Even if he was just a situational pass rusher like and played a little outside linebacker kinda the way Seattle uses Bruce Irvin. This guy is a stud.

 

[jobberone]

Gregory's metrics and production are in the top five of the draft character concerns aside.

 

[CATCH17]

Get him and force him to take a weekly drug test.

 

[Cowboys22]

if he was there @ 27, he very well could be BPA, and if that is the case, yes, I take him and see what coaches can do for him....

spare the Rod, spoil the child

BPA is never a guy with a greater than 50/50 chance that he smokes his way out of the league within 2 years, I don't care what his talent is. There will be too many very good football players at positions of need that have good character and intangibles to waste that 1st round pick on a guy that admitted he's only a few months removed from just wanting to smoke weed everyday. Take a guy you feel can help the team for the next 10 years.

 

[burmafrd]

BPA is never a guy with a greater than 50/50 chance that he smokes his way out of the league within 2 years, I don't care what his talent is. There will be too many very good football players at positions of need that have good character and intangibles to waste that 1st round pick on a guy that admitted he's only a few months removed from just wanting to smoke weed everyday. Take a guy you feel can help the team for the next 10 years.

dead on. This whole VALUE crap is so stupid. What matters is can he play AND will he stay out of trouble. There are some questions on the first and MULTIPLE HUGE QUESTIONS on the second. Take this guy off the board.