If Witten is a future HOF'er...

CaptainMorgan;4918370 said:
Why wouldn't Romo be? Afterall neither has won a super bowl.

Witten is top 3 at his position ALL TIME, Romo is not top 3 in the league right now.
 
i my opinion tightends are not judged by how many playoff wins or superbowls like quarterback position is.
 
CaptainMorgan;4918370 said:
Why wouldn't Romo be? Afterall neither has won a super bowl.

Because Witten with end up as the #1 or #2 guy all time in receptions and yards for a TE.

Romo won't finish anywhere near the top 10 in TDs and passing yards for a QB... not to mention he has exactly one playoff victory in his career.
 
Because of the stupid stigma that Super Bowls are all on the QB.
 
Doomsday;4918371 said:
Witten is top 3 at his position ALL TIME, Romo is not top 3 in the league right now.

He is however the all time franchise leader (beating two other hall of fame qb's)
 
CaptainMorgan;4918381 said:
He is however the all time franchise leader (beating two other hall of fame qb's)

That's mainly (but not all) related to the liberalized passing rules that exist today. The stats, by themselves, just don't mean as much -- especially when trying to compare to guy who played in other eras.

Now 40 TDs passing, 5000+ yards passing are happening much more frequently.
 
SDCowboy85;4918377 said:
Because of the stupid stigma that Super Bowls are all on the QB.

Fouts, Marino, and Moon all made it in without a superbowl victory -- Fouts and Moon didn't even make it to a Superbowl.

All of them, however, played a ton of playoff games and won a lot more than the 1 playoff game Romo has won.

In summary: You can be a HOF QB without a Superbowl appearance -- but you need a heck of a lot more post-season success than 1 playoff victory.
 
There is a much greater body of QBs with great numbers than their are TEs. While I don't think Witten is a better player than Tony, he just has less to compete against to be considered elite.

Besides, despite all the great plays, Tony has made too many mistakes in his career to be considered HoF worthy...yet
 
CaptainMorgan;4918381 said:
He is however the all time franchise leader (beating two other hall of fame qb's)

They throw the ball more now. Witten is a HOF not sure unless he wins a title Tony ever will be.
 
Howardlittleton64;4918417 said:
They throw the ball more now. Witten is a HOF not sure unless he wins a title Tony ever will be.

Well if they throw the ball more wouldn't it stand to reason that they catch the ball more as well? That's kind of a backwards argument.

You can't say Romo is a product of the times and then say it doesn't apply to the TE position IMO.
 
I think you need stats and big moments to get to the HOF. Its easy to break passing records now with the rules. Romos biggests moments are gaffs. Thatll be hard to overcome without SBs.
 
CaptainMorgan;4918381 said:
He is however the all time franchise leader (beating two other hall of fame qb's)

with multiple rings
 
perrykemp;4918390 said:
Fouts, Marino, and Moon all made it in without a superbowl victory -- Fouts and Moon didn't even make it to a Superbowl.

All of them, however, played a ton of playoff games and won a lot more than the 1 playoff game Romo has won.

In summary: You can be a HOF QB without a Superbowl appearance -- but you need a heck of a lot more post-season success than 1 playoff victory.

Fouts played in 7 playoff games and won 3 of them. That isn't a ton. He did put up some incredible numbers during his career. At the time he retired I believe he was in the top 5 all time in a few categories. He was also part of that memorable playoff win against Miami.
 
Sonny Jurgenson can be added to that list as he was a backup to Norm Van Brocklin.
 
perrykemp;4918374 said:
Because Witten with end up as the #1 or #2 guy all time in receptions and yards for a TE.

Romo won't finish anywhere near the top 10 in TDs and passing yards for a QB... not to mention he has exactly one playoff victory in his career.

Yes, he will.

Come close that is. He won't get in the top 10, but he will finish close.
 
At least we know that when Witten enters the HOF, part of his speech will be dedicated to Romo, he will probably say "I couldn't be here without Tony" and I am sure all the Cowboy fans in attendence will be cheering, that will be Tony's HOF moment and I'm sure he'll be more than proud.
Of course he could be in there himself but IMO he has to win at least 1 SB, here's to hoping. :starspin
 

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