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You are missing a great program.The signing talent alone is reason enough to tune in but the story line is pretty good as well. And I can tell you from first hand knowledge it is a fairly accurate portrayal of the industry. (With the exception of the speed of the rise of some artists.)
 
big dog cowboy;4867464 said:
Never heard of it. It's a singing show?

My lady watches it...lots of singing. No thanks...and I love music.

Her and her mother love the show.
 
I wanted to give it a shot because of Hayden but it is doomed. Terrible ratings.
 
Romo 2 Austin;4867634 said:
I wanted to give it a shot because of Hayden but it is doomed. Terrible ratings.

Well it suffers from the same problem a lot of good shows suffer from. Stupid management at the network.
 
Cajuncowboy;4867359 said:
You are missing a great program.The signing talent alone is reason enough to tune in but the story line is pretty good as well. And I can tell you from first hand knowledge it is a fairly accurate portrayal of the industry. (With the exception of the speed of the rise of some artists.)

so most female artists put out to get ahead?
 
Cajuncowboy;4867643 said:
Well it suffers from the same problem a lot of good shows suffer from. Stupid management at the network.

They gave it a more than fair shake man.. Modern Family is it's lead it, ABC's biggest show by about 80% in the ratings. This week ** pulled a 4.7 and Nashville pulled a 1.8. Truthfully a 1.8 in any other timeslot would probably be enough to get it another season, but that would require it not falling off anymore. However behind the monster that is ** it is a major problem.

For example The Voice usually pulls about a 3.7-4.2 and Revolution(Big hit) retains 2.7-3.0. On Tuesday's Go On retains 2.2-2.5. The acceptable retention for Modern Family would be about the same range as Go On.

Nashville also got massive advertising hyping its premiere and it was a late premiere allowing an extra 2 weeks of hype. Really it had everything going for it. It has stopped losing audience and seemingly is stabilizing. If it remains at 1.8 and they move it somewhere else and it doesn't fall below a 1.6 it may get another season but that is only because everything ABC has debuted this season has failed and most networks renew atleast 1 show a season even if it would be considered a failure - see FOX with "Touch" last year.


Edit - Suburgatory is the direct lead in for Nashville. I continuly made this mistake throughout my argument earlier, however Suburgatory pulls a 2.6 (above the safe range for the retention out of Modern Family I talked about earlier). Nashville may have a shot due to it being relatively the only success ABC has had thus far this season but no one around ABC's offices are proud of the 1.8 it is pulling after it's **/SUB lead in. They will probably move Nashville mid season and use this slot to launch a mid season show. If Nashville maintains a 1.6 on a weaker part of the schedule it should return for S2, if not the cancellation bear will feast on what looked to be a hit.


Source for majority of numbers.
 
Cajuncowboy;4867643 said:
Well it suffers from the same problem a lot of good shows suffer from. Stupid management at the network.

And country music :laugh1:
 
Romo 2 Austin;4867975 said:
They gave it a more than fair shake man.. Modern Family is it's lead it, ABC's biggest show by about 80% in the ratings. This week ** pulled a 4.7 and Nashville pulled a 1.8. Truthfully a 1.8 in any other timeslot would probably be enough to get it another season, but that would require it not falling off anymore. However behind the monster that is ** it is a major problem.

For example The Voice usually pulls about a 3.7-4.2 and Revolution(Big hit) retains 2.7-3.0. On Tuesday's Go On retains 2.2-2.5. The acceptable retention for Modern Family would be about the same range as Go On.

Nashville also got massive advertising hyping its premiere and it was a late premiere allowing an extra 2 weeks of hype. Really it had everything going for it. It has stopped losing audience and seemingly is stabilizing. If it remains at 1.8 and they move it somewhere else and it doesn't fall below a 1.6 it may get another season but that is only because everything ABC has debuted this season has failed and most networks renew atleast 1 show a season even if it would be considered a failure - see FOX with "Touch" last year.


Edit - Suburgatory is the direct lead in for Nashville. I continuly made this mistake throughout my argument earlier, however Suburgatory pulls a 2.6 (above the safe range for the retention out of Modern Family I talked about earlier). Nashville may have a shot due to it being relatively the only success ABC has had thus far this season but no one around ABC's offices are proud of the 1.8 it is pulling after it's **/SUB lead in. They will probably move Nashville mid season and use this slot to launch a mid season show. If Nashville maintains a 1.6 on a weaker part of the schedule it should return for S2, if not the cancellation bear will feast on what looked to be a hit.


Source for majority of numbers.

If they seriously think any show is going to cut into MNF then they are nuts. It won't happen. And considering it's not that bad of a rating. Further the 1.8 is among the "target" group which is 18-49. Problem is most disposable income lie in the older age bracket. Outside of the pilot they have had around 6 and 7 million views for each episode. When you factor in the DVR viewers it's between nearly 9 and 10 million.

Either way, it's likely they will renew Nashville.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ille-scandal-are-likely-to-be-renewed/159122/

Additionally they are number one in their slot beating CSI.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/12/abcs-nashville-gets-full-season-order/157284/
 
Yeagermeister;4868030 said:
And country music :laugh1:

Ever wonder why the artists in Country music have such long careers?

Yeah that's right. Because Country music rocks. :D
 
Cajuncowboy;4868180 said:
If they seriously think any show is going to cut into MNF then they are nuts. It won't happen.

Did I miss something? What is the connection to Monday Night Football?
 
Cajuncowboy;4868182 said:
Ever wonder why the artists in Country music have such long careers?

Yeah that's right. Because Country music rocks. :D

Country music and rocks should never be used in the same sentence. :D
 
Cajuncowboy;4868182 said:
Ever wonder why the artists in Country music have such long careers?

Yeah that's right. Because Country music sucks. :D

Fixed it for you :laugh1:
 
Cajuncowboy;4868180 said:
If they seriously think any show is going to cut into MNF then they are nuts. It won't happen. And considering it's not that bad of a rating. Further the 1.8 is among the "target" group which is 18-49. Problem is most disposable income lie in the older age bracket. Outside of the pilot they have had around 6 and 7 million views for each episode. When you factor in the DVR viewers it's between nearly 9 and 10 million.

Either way, it's likely they will renew Nashville.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ille-scandal-are-likely-to-be-renewed/159122/

Additionally they are number one in their slot beating CSI.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/12/abcs-nashville-gets-full-season-order/157284/


Revolution eats into MNF. The fascination with the 18-49 (preferably male for FOX and NBC, neutral for CBS, ABC favors females) is due to the fact they are looser with what money they do have & are more willing to try a different brand. While it is true a retired 60 year old may have more money laying around if he has used Old Spice for the last 30 years he is not likely to try Axe, if he has driven Fords since he was 20 he won't buy a GM. A 30 year old might give it a switch. That is the logic behind 18-49.

Audience size doesn't matter to advertisers. On Monday The Voice pulled 12m viewers and a 4.2 rating, Dancing with the Stars pulled a 2.8 with 16m viewers. Advertisers pay for the demo. Harrys Law on NBC was the most popular show by viewership by about 3million viewers last season and the season prior and it did not survive since advertisers wouldn't pay for it. Total viewership means more in syndication and on cable but to the networks they mean almost nothing.

I really hope Nashville makes it and if ABC announces a second season I will watch it. Hayden is one of my favorite actresses and the plot (especially the political backstory) sounds great. Nothing I hate more than a 1 season show like The Event.

Scandal is another show on ABC that I hope people are checking out. It is safe due to it's stability (1.9-2.1 since it's debut, very little budging) and is a fast paced political drama with multiple interesting over arching storylines and every episode having it's own highly unique conflict. Think Burn Notice mixed with a dumbed down, dramatized West Wing. It's very entertaining.
 
Cajuncowboy;4868182 said:
Ever wonder why the artists in Country music have such long careers?

Yeah that's right. Because Country music rocks. :D

Or nobody inspires to sing country leaving the few to reign
 

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