Illinois LB Britt Miller

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is a monster

leads the FBS in tackles w/ 124, has an INT, a Fumble Return for a TD, 15.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, 7 pass breakups, and 3 forced fumbles

so is San Jose State DT Jarron Gilbert

leads the nation in tackles for loss w/ 21.5, has 9 sacks, which is top 10 in the nation

both are big enough to play in the 3-4, Miller is 6'1" 250 and Gilbert is 6'6" 280, they would be a ILB and DE respectively

they are in competition to be my 1st pick in my mocks, although Gilbert may be gone before then, i that case Iowa DE Mitch King would replace him in the race: 50 tackles, 14.5 TFL, 4 sacks
 
What kind of speed does he have though? Just because I'm sick of watching Bradie James not cover people doesn't mean I want to see someone else out there getting equally burnt.


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He's a great player, but a Zach Thomas type. He's not an outside LB in my opinion. But he's a nice player, would love to see him with the Cowboys.
 
I was looking at his stats and they are very impressive however someone I have became impressed by is....Tyrone Mckenize from South Florida wouldn't mind drafting him.
 
You got a webpage for scouting reports of these guys?
I looked on Walter football, and they're a very good top site, and they have Mitch King as a 5th rounder and I can't find Jarron Gilbert OR Britt Miller on their site of players, are they junior maybe?

They sound good, Gilbert sounds really good fit at D.E. for us, but I can't find him anywhere.
 
ThatsmyQB;2427189 said:
You got a webpage for scouting reports of these guys?
I looked on Walter football, and they're a very good top site, and they have Mitch King as a 5th rounder and I can't find Jarron Gilbert OR Britt Miller on their site of players, are they junior maybe?

They sound good, Gilbert sounds really good fit at D.E. for us, but I can't find him anywhere.

Gilbert and Miller are Seniors

they aren't on NFLDraftCountdown.com either

go to NFLDraftScout and they have every Senior, you don't have to pay for the site to look at the measurables, the 40 times are guesstimations however
 
DaBoys4Life;2427167 said:
I was looking at his stats and they are very impressive however someone I have became impressed by is....Tyrone Mckenize from South Florida wouldn't mind drafting him.

I like him too, 2 South Florida players have worked well for us, Henry did for a bit

wouldn't mind going that route again on D
 
Bob Sacamano;2427252 said:
Gilbert and Miller are Seniors

they aren't on NFLDraftCountdown.com either

go to NFLDraftScout and they have every Senior, you don't have to pay for the site to look at the measurables, the 40 times are guesstimations however

I question if they're not on NFL DRAFTCOUNTDOWN or Walterfootball would tell me that both sites don't find them worthy of being drafted IMO, I could be wrong, but they list a TON of players, and if they were any good they should be at LEAST listed, no?
 
ThatsmyQB;2427291 said:
I question if they're not on NFL DRAFTCOUNTDOWN or Walterfootball would tell me that both sites don't find them worthy of being drafted IMO, I could be wrong, but they list a TON of players, and if they were any good they should be at LEAST listed, no?

I wouldn't take walterfootball as gospel even though they list a lot of players they don't list nearly as many players as NFLdraftscout I don't use draftcountdown that much so I wouldn't know to much. Also remember Walterfootball doesn't update that much and the linebackers hasn't been updated since preseason.
 
DaBoys4Life;2429103 said:
I wouldn't take walterfootball as gospel even though they list a lot of players they don't list nearly as many players as NFLdraftscout I don't use draftcountdown that much so I wouldn't know to much. Also remember Walterfootball doesn't update that much and the linebackers hasn't been updated since preseason.


They are all updated and are VERY reliable sources and I don't see the players you mentioned ANYWHERE, do you have a site I can go to that DOES have them mentioned?
 
ThatsmyQB;2429995 said:
They are all updated and are VERY reliable sources and I don't see the players you mentioned ANYWHERE, do you have a site I can go to that DOES have them mentioned?

the last time walterfootball updated linebackers was over the summer what are you talking. NFLdraftscout has the players up there. It has a lot of players up there and a lot of schools up there if you don't know how to use the website then thats on you.
 
DaBoys4Life;2430007 said:
the last time walterfootball updated linebackers was over the summer what are you talking. NFLdraftscout has the players up there. It has a lot of players up there and a lot of schools up there if you don't know how to use the website then thats on you.



ALL I DID Was ASK for you to give me a WEBSITE so I can loook at these prospects is all, no need to get all bent out of shape!
 
I went to nfldraftscout and you need to PAY to see anyone other then the top 5 at each position, and there's no website on planet EARTH that I would pay to look at for the draft with so many good free sites out there.
 
ThatsmyQB;2430308 said:
I went to nfldraftscout and you need to PAY to see anyone other then the top 5 at each position, and there's no website on planet EARTH that I would pay to look at for the draft with so many good free sites out there.

I'm telling you that you don't need to pay. Since you dont' believe me I'll just post some random guy.

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I wouldnt be upset if we drafted Miller to be an ILB for us. I honestly have trouble figuring out who to draft at ILB. In fact, ILB and OT are the two positions I have the hardest time evaluating. ILB has to be able to play the run and pass. They have to be able to tackle.

OT rankings usually do not list which side they are. So if we are looking for a LT, I don't know which prospects are best, unless I watch the teams...and I usually focus on the Big 12 and some SEC.
 

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