I'm cautiously curious about Schotty

[RustyBourneHorse]

From the same staff as before. Was hired from literally down the hall. Insanely cheap. No one else wanted to interview him.

Maybe, but I'm still willing to give him a chance.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

how is the run game our strength? we've sucked at running the ball for a while now. also being a 25 year coordinator who's never even sniffed a hc opportunity despite being the son of a legendary coach is not a ringing endorsement or a check in the positives column. this guy sucks, looks like a dweeb, and will be looked back on like campo

What I mean is that, when we actually commit to running the ball and build a team that can, then the team usually has more success. I love that the new OC is an oline coach. I'm not sure how he's going to do, but I like the staff that Schotty has. I'm curious to see what he does.

 

[plymkr]

1. It depends what you mean by "fail." Is that not winning a Super Bowl? If so, that's almost guaranteed not to happen until there's a serious roster upgrade, including at QB. But that doesn't mean the coach failed.

2. I think this "culture" narrative is a bunch of garbage that the media seized upon with nothing exciting to write. I don't think the culture was a problem under Mike, except for the problems Jerry causes. And no coach can fix those.

1. If every coach in the last 25-27 years can’t get past the divisional round in the playoffs then it’s probably not the coaches failing, it’s the owner/GM.

2. I disagree we have a culture problem but I do agree that no coach can fix it. Jerry’s the cause of the culture issue. That I completely agree with you on.

 

[noshame]

I'll have a opinion when I see how TC is run.
All talk until then.

 

[thunderpimp91]

What I mean is that, when we actually commit to running the ball and build a team that can, then the team usually has more success. I love that the new OC is an oline coach. I'm not sure how he's going to do, but I like the staff that Schotty has. I'm curious to see what he does.

I'm not sure how we are committed to building a team that can run the ball though. This is the part that keeps getting repeated, but I see zero action here. We still have done nothing to upgrade the OL. We do have some injury return upside at RB, but nothing substantial that we should be counting on. I imagine that at least one of RB or OL will be addressed early in the draft, but we will see. Very possible they look at other positions with those day 1 and 2 picks as well. The other concern I have is that defensively all the front four guys we have brought in seem to have more pass rush upside than they can play the run effectively. That's not always a bad thing, but it seems clear that we need help in the run game at the first level.

I'm also confused as to how we get excited about the new OC and how he can help us, but we also downplay the OC role last year when it was Schottenheimer. Not trying to knock either guy, it just seems like fans are playing both sides of the fence here in order to find a reason to be optimistic.

Still time, but also a lot of work that needs to be done before I get too excited about this years squad.

 

[MapleLeaf]

We can't go around throwing the baby out with the putrid bathwater everytime.

Schotty deserves a chance, but I feel this is not a debate about him, but rather about the senior mgmt.

If Schotty fails miserably it will be a damning statement on the ability of the Jones family to run a football operation.

It would mean their last uptick of strength and capability from the HC spot with little suspicion and debate from fans and media will be Bill Parcells. That's not a good look.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I'm not sure how we are committed to building a team that can run the ball though. This is the part that keeps getting repeated, but I see zero action here. We still have done nothing to upgrade the OL. We do have some injury return upside at RB, but nothing substantial that we should be counting on. I imagine that at least one of RB or OL will be addressed early in the draft, but we will see. Very possible they look at other positions with those day 1 and 2 picks as well. The other concern I have is that defensively all the front four guys we have brought in seem to have more pass rush upside than they can play the run effectively. That's not always a bad thing, but it seems clear that we need help in the run game at the first level.

I'm also confused as to how we get excited about the new OC and how he can help us, but we also downplay the OC role last year when it was Schottenheimer. Not trying to knock either guy, it just seems like fans are playing both sides of the fence here in order to find a reason to be optimistic.

Still time, but also a lot of work that needs to be done before I get too excited about this years squad.

Oh I agree that a lot of work needs to be done. I think oline and dline need to be priorities in the draft.

 

[GINeric]

The same can be said for telling others how they should be a fan.

What fan cheer against its own players? I don't care how a fan want to conduct themselves as a fan.

But why would a so called fan want to see its own players fail? Make that make sense.... I've never seen a fan of any sports team cheer against its own players like some in our fan base does.

 

[DuncanIso]

Maybe, but I'm still willing to give him a chance.

Me too.

I think we are going to get a look at the old Seahawks offense.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Me too.

I think we are going to get a look at the old Seahawks offense.

Which wouldn't be a bad thing

 

[big dog cowboy]

If Schotty fails miserably it will be a damning statement on the ability of the Jones family to run a football operation.

Likely a unspoken belief by everyone in the Cowboys FO.

 

[Flamma]

I'm cautiously curious about Schotty. I'm not expecting anything massive for the 2025 season, and we will certainly see if the Joneses will give him any help soon enough. However, I did like the points of emphasis he had. I like how he wants to put an emphasis on the run game and play action. Those are areas that are a strength of this offense. Plus, by virtue of this emphasis, it's bound to give us more time of possession. Given the schedule that we will have in 2025, I'm not expecting a great record, but I'm curious to see the system he puts in place. I like how he seems inclined to play to our strengths. Compared to some of the other options like Kellen Moore or Jason Witten, Schotty has at least paid his dues as an assistant for a long time to get to this point. I do think he was deserving, given that, of a HC job. I can at least appreciate that he's not someone who was just plucked from a HS rank.

That being said, I have some concerns about Schotty. Firstly, I'd have liked to have heard his points of emphasis on the defence. I understand that's probably an aspect that he's probably wanting to defer to Eberflus, but I'd at least have liked, since he's the head coach, a general idea of what points of emphasis he wants. Does he want more physical trenches? In fact, going to point two with a connection to my first concern, I'm left pondering the culture that Schotty is going to try to install. I'm not expecting a highly successful season this year. Besides our division rivals, we play the AFC West and the NFC North among others. So, the record and aiming for high success in 2025 is not my expectation. What I am expecting and wanting to see is what culture Schotty wants to bring. Culture building coaches has been the building block of a lot of the successful franchises the last few seasons, between Quinn in Washington, Reid in KC, Campbell in Detroit, Sirianni in Philly, etc. I am curious what culture he wants to install. I also want to know how resilient the culture is that he's going to install. How strong is it going to be if we start 2025 with a 1-5 record? Will he stick with

Our 2014 and 2016 teams had bad defenses. It was ball control offense and few turnovers that led the way. They were better teams than the last 12-5 seasons we had. Again, that's without a good defense. Ball control is probably the reason Romo had his best year. All the pressure wasn't on him. It probably helped Dak a lot as a rookie. Is our current OL capable of that? Will we have an exceptional RB like Murray or Zeke?

No, I don't think Jerry is going to give the coach any more help. At least not outside the draft. I say this because he hasn't done it in over a decade. Now I have to see it to believe it. We'll find out after the draft.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Our 2014 and 2016 teams had bad defenses. It was ball control offense and few turnovers that led the way. They were better teams than the last 12-5 seasons we had. Again, that's without a good defense. Ball control is probably the reason Romo had his best year. All the pressure wasn't on him. It probably helped Dak a lot as a rookie. Is our current OL capable of that? Will we have an exceptional RB like Murray or Zeke?

No, I don't think Jerry is going to give the coach any more help. At least not outside the draft. I say this because he hasn't done it in over a decade. Now I have to see it to believe it. We'll find out after the draft.

Well, and that's the thing. We have a better defence than we did in 2014 and 2016. So, imagine if we employ the ball control strategy with a better defence.