Captain-Crash
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you're getting awful jazz with those posts.Anybody but loser Dak, Jazz.
you're getting awful jazz with those posts.Anybody but loser Dak, Jazz.
The Cowboys won two Super Bowls in a row and Jimmy figured that was the best time to leave? For Miami?Again, this is off based.
Thy did not walk away because of Jerry. Jimmy wants to leave to go back to Florida. He wanted to take over for Shula, but he signed a new deal. Came to Dallas with Jerry.
He wanted the Jaguars job, that did not happen. So when he knew Shula was in his last year. He orchestrated his departure with Jerry.
Parcells quit, because he wanted to quit. He himself said he and Jerry had a great working relationship.
MM left because of the length of contract terms.
Spin it how you want, because of your hate for Jerry and this team.
Yes Jerry has not built a team to get to the NFCCG, but to say coaches walked away is hilarious. There are many haters on here agree with you, because they simply have blind hate for the FO and the team.
Dude I'm not gonna get into this again we've been through this so many times for decades that's not true they both had an ego the fight erupted at the bar and everybody knows Jimmy Johnson's the same person they are the same in bill Parcells they never really stayed around more than five years anywhere they need a new challenge and he was gonna leave anyway at most even if you wanna be right he wasn't staying past 1997 when his whole entire Super Bowl team has gotten injured and old and some of them retired they're moving on he was knocked in for another rebuild that is not how he was built and he would not have one more Super Bowls than Barry switzer Barry switzer did keep Jerry's roster moving along just fine they went to an NFC championship game and lost to a team who's been wanting to beat them for a very long time and then losing had nothing to do with Jimmy not being there I don't care what eight men or what you feel happened and then he wanted another Super Bowl and then it was over it was gonna be over no matter what they were not gonna go on a 19 year run like New England did it was not in the cards that is not how Jimmy rolls that's why Jimmy went to Miami and couldn't repeat what he did with the Cowboys they both together won those championships both their egos blew it up that is a fact stop trying to create issues and stories that are not true..The Cowboys won two Super Bowls in a row and Jimmy figured that was the best time to leave? For Miami?
Jimmy left because Jerry was hopping on the credit train and began reneging on a contractual agreement which was Jimmy makes all football related decisions.
Jimmy was outraged that Jerry appointed himself to the GM position and began feeding the media with BS about his role in the operations. He publicly humiliated Jimmy when he got drunk and told some reporters that 500 different coaches to take this team to the Super Bowl.
Jimmy left because he knew he couldn't maintain the the team's culture with Jerry inserting himself in the process.
Jimmy didn't choose Miami over Dallas. He chose Miami over Jerry Jones. The Miami circumstances were challenging. Shula didn't want to retire so Jimmy had to wait another full season before taking over. He didn't want to keep Marino, he wanted to find his own guy but Marino was too popular and and the owner didn't want to anger him.
There is no way he chose that scenario over staying with the Cowboys if everything had remained the same.
Parcells was so angry with Jerry for signing TO that he didn't even call him by name, he only referred to him as "the player" or "Number 81". Parcells never even tried to renew his contract because he knew that Jerry's interference doomed any chance of building a team with the right attitude and chemistry. Jerry would override Parcells disciplinary decisions.
Jerry has always provided a "non-disclosure" clause in the HC contracts where they cannot openly criticize Jerry. This is why they always seem to leave with a hefty bonus.
It's only common sense to assume that McCarthy wanted more authority over football related decisions. he recognized the same thing that the majority of Cowboys fans have realized for many years. Jerry Jones make some very poor decisions and interferes in areas where he shouldn't even be involved.
These are three guys that knew how to get their teams a SB championship.
Is absolutely not common sense you're trying to twist the narrative because you hate Jerry no Mike McCarthy didn't deserve to have more power they gave him that when he got here the same way that Brian schottenheimer is getting right now and he hired Mike Nolan and then he let Kelly Moore walk and put himself in place and both those decisions were way worse because Dan Quinn and Kelly Moore were better choices and those were Jerry's choices history already shows that plus would you like me to find a quote that Mike McCarthy said in the middle of last year when asked about building the roster he said he had far more direct input with the roster here that he ever had in Green Bay so you're wrong you guys trying to twist the history with Jimmy Johnson and making Jerry the villain and I'm not sticking up for Jerry but he's not the villain here there's equal blame to go around but Mike McCarthy screwed up on his own..It's only common sense to assume that McCarthy wanted more authority over football related decisions. he recognized the same thing that the majority of Cowboys fans have realized for many years. Jerry Jones make some very poor decisions and interferes in areas where he shouldn't even be involved.
These are three guys that knew how to get their teams a SB championship.
Right? If culture is the problem and you are trying to fix the culture problem you start by clearing the decks both coaching and most of the key players and rebuild from there with someone with no connection to the staff you fired. Instead they hired a guy from the same problematic culture and kept all the key players who are rooted in that culture.The hire doesnt make a lot of sense to me. The number one complaint I kept hearing was the culture, yet you hire someone to be your headcoach from said staff. Doesn't make a bunch of sense to me. I'd be looking outside the building not from within after that failure of a season. Shotty is who the Jones want. A first year headcoach who is easy to control and will tow the company line.
You and I can agree on something.Dude I'm not gonna get into this again we've been through this so many times for decades that's not true they both had an ego the fight erupted at the bar and everybody knows Jimmy Johnson's the same person they are the same in bill Parcells they never really stayed around more than five years anywhere they need a new challenge and he was gonna leave anyway at most even if you wanna be right he wasn't staying past 1997 when his whole entire Super Bowl team has gotten injured and old and some of them retired they're moving on he was knocked in for another rebuild that is not how he was built and he would not have one more Super Bowls than Barry switzer Barry switzer did keep Jerry's roster moving along just fine they went to an NFC championship game and lost to a team who's been wanting to beat them for a very long time and then losing had nothing to do with Jimmy not being there I don't care what eight men or what you feel happened and then he wanted another Super Bowl and then it was over it was gonna be over no matter what they were not gonna go on a 19 year run like New England did it was not in the cards that is not how Jimmy rolls that's why Jimmy went to Miami and couldn't repeat what he did with the Cowboys they both together won those championships both their egos blew it up that is a fact stop trying to create issues and stories that are not true..
Jimmy admitted he was wrong they were both equally responsible for the breakup it was a long time coming their egos clashed and it doesn't matter what Jerry could have done differently you don't talk to your boss like that expect to keep a job I don't care if it appears to be football like it's high school this was Jerry's team Jerry bought this team and gave Jimmy his shot there is no chicken and egg theory here that wasn't Terry Jimmy would have never happened Jimmy may have never ended up in the NFL or had the success he had they together created this and together blew it up that is how it works we know the stories and we've heard them together tell it and that is the truth they both were equally before it and it was gonna be an eventuality anyway and this would have never been the New England Patriots it just would not have been.. Everybody has a dream that if Jimmy would have stayed we'd have won six or seven Super Bowls and it's absolutely untrue the way they were changing the salary cap and free agency and the players were moving and you needed a full rebuild from scratch you were not getting luck from another Herschel Walker trade it wasn't happened that was luck it happened to be good timing.
Do as much as you wanna keep on this stupid narrative that somehow this is all Jerry's fault and it could've kept it going so he kept his ego in his pocket no you don't yell at your boss and it shamed him in public and expect to keep your job yes they could have probably worked it out but it was gonna happen anyway... If you did this to your real boss in a big corporation at some kind of retreat and you got drunk and embarrassed your boss you probably wouldn't have a job you probably wouldn't have been allowed to fly back on the plane and you would have had the security people delivering your crap FedEx back to your house that's how it works you do have a boss and an owner regardless if it's a partnership you can't talk to your boss that way even if it's true..
Do it again let's keep this friendly it make it was both their faults equally that they weren't going on a 19 year Super Bowl type runs that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did because Bill Belichick is a lifer he is one of those coaches that will stay around forever but bill Parcells and Jimmy Johnson were not built that way we know this for a fact I followed him at Miami and even after it happened and then he went to the dolphins he quit pretty easily... There's a reason that bill Parcells and Jimmy Johnson never reinvented what they had beforehand and they both quit you would think that if they were that good or wanted to be in the NFL for that long they would've got GM jobs or executive jobs they did not they faded away it was gonna happen anyway...
Stop trying to reinvent history by your memory most of us who live that like literally were there why it happened and we were in our mid 20s and we saw that happen and since the admission by both parties say it was both their fault and yet you keep trying to blame Jerry for it and you're wrong he gave Jimmy his shot they had great success it was short lived and it was always gonna be short lived again it probably would have happened the same way we probably in the exact same spot they were not winning 5 Super Bowls in a row ask the chiefs how hard that is to do nobody's repeated nobody in the history of the NFL has ever repeated and most of them have never even had back-to-back wins twice in a row that's a very ra....re's a gap and then they win two more.
Stop with your delusion and your memory being slanted one way or the other it was never gonna end differently than it did as far as success they were gonna have an end to it and Jimmy wasn't staying around to rebuild it yes Jerry made a lot of mistakes after Jimmy left there was 10 years of just terrible ownership and bad GM but the last 10 years I think it's a lot better and really the last five years I know we still are in a drought but you can tell things are different but yes when it imploded it was terrible no one saying that jerry didn't suck that first ten years after. no one's saying that Jerry didn't suck that first ten years after
It's really time to move on he put him in the Ring of Honor he's in the Hall of Fame they're friends again and you can't change history by having a bad memory or trying to twist it to make it seem like something different no it's not..
Its a good question but perhaps an irrelevant one......we all know that the only culture that can exist is the one created by Mr JonesI am curious what culture he wants to install. I also want to know how resilient the culture is that he's going to install.
Its a good question but perhaps an irrelevant one......we all know that the only culture that can exist is the one created by Mr Jones
Its been here since the day Jimmy Johnson was shown the door.