I'm going to keep saying it

[NoLuv4Jerry]

And especially in light of the fact that Parcells decided to walk out the door on us....but passing up on Marcus McNeil, the BIG LT from Auburn last year to draft the 2nd coming of Dan Campbell is and will continue to give me grief. I don't care about other teams passing him up....I don't care about his alleged back condition (did not stop us from drafting Newman)....AND WE HAD THE NEED!!!!!!!!! Furthermore, all you optimists about Fasano's future are kidding yourselves. First of all, with Witten here, Fasano will NEVER give you the production a 2nd round TE should give you...and secondly, he does not have the physical tools to be a 2nd round TE. And while I am at it, I thought we should have drafted Max Jean Giles in the 4th round. Sure he may not have been ready last year, but those rounds are perfect to draft and develop OL...especially when you know Rivera was close to the edge...which he was before his injury.

And with the increase salalry cap, we should have known the craziness that would take place. I live in DC, and Derrick Dockery at 17M signing bonus is a mockery of the NFL. Seriously. I actually agree with us not caving to Colombo or Davis, BUT we could have avoided this.

In closing, the genuis that drafted Jacob Rogers quit on us and then spooked us from using draft picks on OL the first day last year. WHY THE HECK DID WE WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE DRAFT TO PICK UP OL? Football starts in the trenches, and we have sucked in the trenches for a long time now, I cannot stress how frustrating this is. I know there will be plenty of apologists running to the rescue of Bill etc....but I KNOW there are people who agree with me, DON'T be afraid to defend the star

 

[Woods]

Look, we all know we need to improve our OL.

Even S. Jones came out a few days ago and said it was a priority.

But spilt milk is spilt milk . . . . let's just focus on the future and hope for the best. One thing we clearly need to do is start developing better homegrown talent.

Hopefully, Proctor and McQuistan are a move in the right direction.

 

[TNCowboy]

Spending a high pick on an Olineman with a bad back would've been a horrible idea.

 

[LatinMind]

And especially in light of the fact that Parcells decided to walk out the door on us....but passing up on Marcus McNeil, the BIG LT from Auburn last year to draft the 2nd coming of Dan Campbell is and will continue to give me grief. I don't care about other teams passing him up....I don't care about his alleged back condition (did not stop us from drafting Newman)....AND WE HAD THE NEED!!!!!!!!! Furthermore, all you optimists about Fasano's future are kidding yourselves. First of all, with Witten here, Fasano will NEVER give you the production a 2nd round TE should give you...and secondly, he does not have the physical tools to be a 2nd round TE. And while I am at it, I thought we should have drafted Max Jean Giles in the 4th round. Sure he may not have been ready last year, but those rounds are perfect to draft and develop OL...especially when you know Rivera was close to the edge...which he was before his injury.

And with the increase salalry cap, we should have known the craziness that would take place. I live in DC, and Derrick Dockery at 17M signing bonus is a mockery of the NFL. Seriously. I actually agree with us not caving to Colombo or Davis, BUT we could have avoided this.

In closing, the genuis that drafted Jacob Rogers quit on us and then spooked us from using draft picks on OL the first day last year. WHY THE HECK DID WE WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE DRAFT TO PICK UP OL? Football starts in the trenches, and we have sucked in the trenches for a long time now, I cannot stress how frustrating this is. I know there will be plenty of apologists running to the rescue of Bill etc....but I KNOW there are people who agree with me, DON'T be afraid to defend the star

nice post, and i agree. mcneil should have been drafted. and i do think dallas needs to just quit stalling and pay davis and colombo. this is just the nfl today ur going to have to pay. just like next yr u'l see knew with a contract the same as clements. probably more. then u have jj and barber who arent going to come cheap. one of them is probably gone.

 

[LatinMind]

Look, we all know we need to improve our OL.

Even S. Jones came out a few days ago and said it was a priority.

But spilt milk is spilt milk . . . . let's just focus on the future and hope for the best. One thing we clearly need to do is start developing better homegrown talent.

Hopefully, Proctor and McQuistan are a move in the right direction.

if proctor was worth a damn u dont think he would have replaced rivera at some point during last season? age aside, rivera was making rookie mistakes. his back was clearly bothering him from the get go. and he had to have been one of the top holding penalty getters in the league. i have to think anybody that was outplaying him in practice would have replaced him.

 

[Woods]

if proctor was worth a damn u dont think he would have replaced rivera at some point during last season? age aside, rivera was making rookie mistakes. his back was clearly bothering him from the get go. and he had to have been one of the top holding penalty getters in the league. i have to think anybody that was outplaying him in practice would have replaced him.

I'm not saying Proctor should or could have replaced Rivera last season.

What I am saying is that we HAVE to do a better job of drafting better and developing our own talent.

And I am HOPING that Proctor and McQuistan are a move in that direction. That's not to say Proctor is starting material in '07. I have no idea, and neither does anyone on this board. But at the minimum, let's atleast develop capable back-ups along with starters on the OL.

 

[burmafrd]

You guys are full of crap about McNeill. He was passed for a very legitimate reason. His time as an NFL player can end ANY DAY. SD took a BIGGER then usual DRAFT gamble and so far it has worked. SO FAR. After the mess with ROgers there was no way JJ was going to draft another medical risk. And what MORON thinks that Newman had a bad back? It was a minor concern about his shoulder and it was just that. MINOR. Just how much IGNORANCE do we keep having to see on this board?

 

[LatinMind]

I'm not saying Proctor should or could have replaced Rivera last season.

What I am saying is that we HAVE to do a better job of drafting better and developing our own talent.

And I am HOPING that Proctor and McQuistan are a move in that direction. That's not to say Proctor is starting material in '07. I have no idea, and neither does anyone on this board. But at the minimum, let's atleast develop capable back-ups along with starters on the OL.

well procter would be in his 3rd yr i think with dallas. or is it 2nd. i dont think he'll ever be more then what he is right now. what makes me mad is after 4 yrs of parcells the OL really isnt very much better then when he got to dallas. hopefully now the cowboys put more emphasis on the OL. enough is enough already. i wouldnt even be mad if this whole draft was about the OL.

 

[Woods]

well procter would be in his 3rd yr i think with dallas. or is it 2nd. i dont think he'll ever be more then what he is right now. what makes me mad is after 4 yrs of parcells the OL really isnt very much better then when he got to dallas. hopefully now the cowboys put more emphasis on the OL. enough is enough already. i wouldnt even be mad if this whole draft was about the OL.

Yes, have to agree. While BP did upgrade most of our roster, the OL still needs quite a bit of help.

I do think that JJ and S. Jones realize this. As I mentioned in a previous post, S. Jones said that upgrading the OL via FA and the Draft was a priority this year.

 

[LatinMind]

Yes, have to agree. While BP did upgrade most of our roster, the OL still needs quite a bit of help.

I do think that JJ and S. Jones realize this. As I mentioned in a previous post, S. Jones said that upgrading the OL via FA and the Draft was a priority this year.

it should be. but they should have taken out the tail between their legs and said that when parcells was in dallas. and maybe just maybe dallas could have had a superbowl team on their hands. u have to admit dallas was a OL from being able to go to the superbowl. defense or hurting defense. dallas was a scoring machine. late in the yr when teams pinned their ears back against dallas they couldnt block anybody. again.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

You guys are full of crap about McNeill. He was passed for a very legitimate reason. His time as an NFL player can end ANY DAY. SD took a BIGGER then usual DRAFT gamble and so far it has worked. SO FAR. After the mess with ROgers there was no way JJ was going to draft another medical risk. And what MORON thinks that Newman had a bad back? It was a minor concern about his shoulder and it was just that. MINOR. Just how much IGNORANCE do we keep having to see on this board?

Believe me...I know my Cowboy history...and I also KNOW it was his shoulder....but I know that there was a lot of debate about Newman because of his shoulder and whether or not he was worthy of a top 5 pick....AND we did it anyway. I also know that Jacob Rogers was injured off and on his entire time at USC...and we did it anyway, to the tune of a 2nd round pick. I also know that Al Johnson had knee problems BEFORE we drafted him...AND he missed his first year with said knee problems..but we did it anyway, to the tune of a 2nd round pick. So don't give me that BS about McNeil can go at any time...and he was drafted in the 2nd round...a round that 'suggest' we like to gamble on for OL. And he made the probowl in his first year in the NFL, starting for a 14-2 team. And I will bet MONEY that is one more Pro Bowl that Anthony Fasano will EVER make!

 

[Woods]

it should be. but they should have taken out the tail between their legs and said that when parcells was in dallas. and maybe just maybe dallas could have had a superbowl team on their hands. u have to admit dallas was a OL from being able to go to the superbowl. defense or hurting defense. dallas was a scoring machine. late in the yr when teams pinned their ears back against dallas they couldnt block anybody. again.

Dallas is an OL or two and another pass rusher away from going to the Super Bowl. Oh, and an improved defensive scheme as well.

Hopefully Wade can take of the defensive scheme and pass rushers, as long as JJ helps build the OL.

But I'm not too worried yet. We can still re-sign Colombo, and I still think we will. Plus, there are still some decent upgrades to Rivera out there in FA.

 

[burmafrd]

You KNOW NOTHING about McNeills back. Or you WOULD know that it is a very career threatening condition. FAR worse then anything else that we have drafted.

 

[LatinMind]

Dallas is an OL or two and another pass rusher away from going to the Super Bowl. Oh, and an improved defensive scheme as well.

Hopefully Wade can take of the defensive scheme and pass rushers, as long as JJ helps build the OL.

But I'm not too worried yet. We can still re-sign Colombo, and I still think we will. Plus, there are still some decent upgrades to Rivera out there in FA.

whats im saying is if jerry and stephen would have had any balls and stood up to parcells dallas wouldnt have been in this mess

lol but i agree with u, it should atleast get somewhat fixed this yr

 

[Mansta54]

You guys are full of crap about McNeill. He was passed for a very legitimate reason. His time as an NFL player can end ANY DAY. SD took a BIGGER then usual DRAFT gamble and so far it has worked. SO FAR. After the mess with ROgers there was no way JJ was going to draft another medical risk. And what MORON thinks that Newman had a bad back? It was a minor concern about his shoulder and it was just that. MINOR. Just how much IGNORANCE do we keep having to see on this board?

Well said!!!!

 

[Clove]

McNeill was projected initially as a 1st rounder, with the back issue, he was then projected as a 2nd rounder. Can't tell me that he wasn't a bargain in the 2nd round, vs Fasano.

It was a horrible call by Parcells, and we're left with the damage. At some point, someone in that front office will understand that a really good OLine can take you places you've been dreaming about for 10 years.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

McNeill was projected initially as a 1st rounder, with the back issue, he was then projected as a 2nd rounder. Can't tell me that he wasn't a bargain in the 2nd round, vs Fasano.

It was a horrible call by Parcells, and we're left with the damage. At some point, someone in that front office will understand that a really good OLine can take you places you've been dreaming about for 10 years.

amen brother...I am convinced that after Parcells screwed up with Al Johnson, Jacob Rogers and Steven Petterman...he felt like they had to go late in the draft last year....hence the 2 7th rounders. I find it incredible that we sit here today with Adams in the last year of his deal...Rivera about to be cut and Colombo about to walk out the door. Unreal

 

[dbair1967]

if proctor was worth a damn u dont think he would have replaced rivera at some point during last season? age aside, rivera was making rookie mistakes. his back was clearly bothering him from the get go. and he had to have been one of the top holding penalty getters in the league. i have to think anybody that was outplaying him in practice would have replaced him.

actually no I dont...Parcells has proven he is stubborn when it comes to replacing "his" guys over the years...now somebody might reply to this and say he did replace Bledsoe with Romo, but I think almost any level headed person would now also agree it was SEVERAL weeks late

David

 

[peplaw06]

Good original post...

Gotta say, it's getting frustrating watching OL after OL go off the board in free agency while we sit on our thumbs and only talk with Leonard Davis. Newsflash JJ, we have OL issues. There are two ways to fix them. Draft and FA. We tried to throw some money at bargain guys in FA last year, but still no high draft picks to speak of. McQ is it.

When you search for bargains and late draft picks, you're going to miss quite a bit. Why not just throw some money at one of these proven free agents...?

Maybe Wade will bring a different philosophy when it comes to the OL?? But if we keep going like this... not talking to the big name FA's and drafting guys in the late rounds, our OL will never get fixed.

 

[Bizwah]

What's frustrating is that we MAY (if this continues) be going into the draft with MAJOR offensive line issues.

That pigeonholes us in the draft. Instead of being able to take the BPA, we almost HAVE to draft an OL.....

This is dangerous.

When you HAVE to draft a position, you almost always grossly reach, or trade up for a player that will probably be there.

I think we'd be ok if we got just ONE decent OL. That is the danger with letting Davis go. We're gambling with the draft here....and that's the way to build a team.