I'm not saying Dak is better than Mahomes

[MountaineerCowboy]

Let's go back to Dak's rookie season in 2016. TWO YEARS before Mahomes ever started a game in the NFL.

Career games with at least 300 yards passing:

Dak- 20
Mahomes - 31

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Comparing Dak to Mahomes is like comparing the 3 point shooting of Dennis Rodman to Steph Curry.

I'm starting to see why Stephen A despises Cowboys fans so much.. Give me a break.

This is why Cowboys fans are hated.

It used to be out of jealousy because we won, but now that we don't win anything meaningful, it's because of stuff like this.

 

[tyke1doe]

Didn’t Goat Boy “prop up” his stats for 20 years in the AFCE?

And also emerged with six Super Bowl rings.
How many has Dak won beating up on the NFCLeast?

 

[john van brocklin]

Let's go back to Dak's rookie season in 2016. TWO YEARS before Mahomes ever started a game in the NFL.

Career games with at least 300 yards passing:

Dak- 20
Mahomes - 31

You are not allowed to use facts in this thread!
Shame on you !

 

[OmerV]

Point 1: Mahomes played in 73 games, Dak only 56 and Dak still has him beat in 400 yard games.

Point 2: Mahomes has a god-like receiving unit. Dak has a very good receiving unit but it doesn't compare to Mahomes'. Kelce + Hill > by far anyone we got. Cowboys are receivers by committee. Chiefs have a receiving unit that have been proven unstoppable by 31 teams.

Point 3: Wins are a team accomplishment, so Mahomes didn't win those games on his own.


Again, Mahomes > Dak overall because of his Super Bowl and his postseason accomplishments, but lots of his games are simply because Chiefs are good enough to jump ahead and beat teams without Mahomes needing to do much. Cowboys has a bad defense most of the times, 0 dominant D-linemen, a used up starting running back, and an O-Line that blew the SF playoff game badly. Mahomes O-Line was horrendous in the Super Bowl, but at least they chose the last game of the year to be bad in.


Thoughts?

Your numbers appear to be off. Dak has started 85 regular season games (53 is the number of wins). Mahomes has 63 regular season starts

 

[G2]

I mean all you can do is compare body of work. It's not Apples to Oranges to be fair to Mahomes. A weird flex to support Prescott in my opinion. But it sure does illustrate who hates Dak no matter what and will mold any data they can dream up.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Your numbers appear to be off. Dak has started 85 regular season games (53 is the number of wins). Mahomes has 63 regular season starts

To be fair it say's "since 2018".

But the numbers are still off because Mahomes has 7 career 400 yard games, not 6. This tweet is so old that Mahomes has thrown a 400 yard game since this tweet was posted.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I mean all you can do is compare body of work. It's not Apples to Oranges to be fair to Mahomes. A weird flex to support Prescott in my opinion. But it sure does illustrate who hates Dak no matter what and will mold any data they can dream up.

Yet OP posted a completely false tweet, literally molding data that is no longer accurate to fit an agenda, and crickets from you calling it out for being false......

 

[john van brocklin]

Andy Reid vs Jason Garrett........wonder if that matters

Legit questions......

• Would Dak be a better QB if he'd play his first 4 years under Andy Reid?
• Would Mahomes be a better QB under Jason Garrett?

Great questions Hawk!
Of course we will never know the answers.
Not to dump on Garrett, but Jerry giving him 10 years with this team
has be be the greatest indictment that Jerry does not have the proper judgement to GM this team.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Great questions Hawk!
Of course we will never know the answers.
Not to dump on Garrett, but Jerry giving him 10 years with this team
has be be the greatest indictment that Jerry does not have the proper judgement to GM this team.

If Garrett would've had Mahomes he'd still be our coach and probably have a couple rings.

Could you imagine Mahomes with prime Zeke and THREE 1st team All-Pro linemen? Goodnesssssss.

Meanwhile, if Reid had Dak he'd already dropped him just like he did Alex Smith because they are basically the same type of QB.

 

[tyke1doe]

Why use Mahomes as a comparison?

This tactic is what I call a "subliminal gadget." It's designed to compare two objects without declaring that you're comparing the two objects. But because one object is so obviously (in this case) superior, to attach the other object to it subliminally suggests that the two are the same or the inferior object is actually better than the one it is being compared to.

If you want to make a point that Dak is a good quarterback based on how many 400 plus passing games, you widen your list beyond Mahomes. That way it dilutes the comparison among the many rather than to the one - who, in this case, naturally commands the focus.

The effect is like comparing anyone with that guy who ultimately caused World War II. Any arguments about that guy building roads and improving his nation's infrastructure will always be overshadowed by the other heinous thing he did do.

Similarly trying to compare a quarterback with no rings and who hasn't even sniffed a NFC Championship Game to a quarterback who has won A ring or multiple rings or who at least got his team to the AFC Championship Game 4 consecutive years will fall on deaf ears.

People should know not to make such a comparison.

Similarly, posters should know not to compare Dak with Mahomes and definitely not Brady (which has been done in this forum).

 

[CowboyFrog]

I find it a little wierd that in other threads about other players the MAIN point is we "Over Value" our talent..but in Dak threads those same people say "He has all pro's everywhere just like Mahomes" i dont think the 2 statements line up...do we over value our players or do we have SB winning All Pro's at every position around Dak....Both statements can't be true, these statements can be true, Mahomes can be a better QB with A MUCH BETTER team and organization around him AND Dak has played good games here in this Disfunctional organization...but flame on.

 

[OmerV]

To be fair it say's "since 2018".

But the numbers are still off because Mahomes has 7 career 400 yard games, not 6. This tweet is so old that Mahomes has thrown a 400 yard game since this tweet was posted.

Ahh - I see that now. It was in the tweet, and I had to open it up separately

 

[Sydla]

Yes, but if he throws for 300 yards and 4 TDs, it means nothing, while many others are applauded for doing the same thing. It’s kinda like the experts pick Dallas to lose to say, Tampa, which they do. Meanwhile, Green Bay or the Rams get upset by lesser teams, but the lead story is always “Dallas lost!”. Why?

Because you follow the Cowboys. When the Packers lose to a bad team, up there, the media kills them.

 

[Sydla]

Who cares that Patrick Mahomes control perfect pass out of his ***. You put Prescott on that team and he wins also. Most overrated quarterback ever Patrick Mahomes

Hahahaha.

Anyone who watches Mahomes play and then Dak play and concludes Dak could do the same and Mahomes is overrated really needs to think about therapy.

 

[Ken]

What exactly is he "focused" on. NOT saying Dak is as good as Mahommes?

He was just pointing out that Dak has the most 400 yard games in the NFL since 2018.

He was quite clear that Mahommes > Dak.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Point 1: Mahomes played in 73 games, Dak only 56 and Dak still has him beat in 400 yard games.

Point 2: Mahomes has a god-like receiving unit. Dak has a very good receiving unit but it doesn't compare to Mahomes'. Kelce + Hill > by far anyone we got. Cowboys are receivers by committee. Chiefs have a receiving unit that have been proven unstoppable by 31 teams.

Point 3: Wins are a team accomplishment, so Mahomes didn't win those games on his own.


Again, Mahomes > Dak overall because of his Super Bowl and his postseason accomplishments, but lots of his games are simply because Chiefs are good enough to jump ahead and beat teams without Mahomes needing to do much. Cowboys has a bad defense most of the times, 0 dominant D-linemen, a used up starting running back, and an O-Line that blew the SF playoff game badly. Mahomes O-Line was horrendous in the Super Bowl, but at least they chose the last game of the year to be bad in.


Thoughts?

Dak is the BEST QB in the NFL without any doubt!!!
Mahomes,Allen,Herbert,Brady,Rodgers,Wilson are 2n rate compared to the greatness of DAK!!!!!!

P.S. And in band camp......

 

[mattjames2010]

Remember this dude named Jerry Rice who made an above average arm like Steve Young look elite?

Mahomes has two receivers that resembles Rice more than anyone we got. Mahomes has a far better arm than Young, but see what happens when you have elite weapons like he does? We've never seen Dak with an elite receiver before. Once (or if) Dak has an elite receiver, we'll see who he really is!!

Why delete this?

Steve Young was legitimately one of the best QBs of all time and his 1994 season might be the best ever.

 

[Sydla]

The dude says in the title that he’s not saying Dak is better. That doesn’t stop ***holes from repeatedly telling him he’s not better.

He’s posting a stat that he betters the best QB in the league in to make the point that Dak isn’t as bad as some here say he is.

This actually upsets some.

He says Mahomes is better but then spends the rest of the time making excuses for Dak almost like he's hinting at believing Dak could be just as good. Then he goes on and says silly things like Steve Young was only good because of Jerry Rice.

LOL.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Hahahaha.

Anyone who watches Mahomes play and then Dak play and concludes Dak could do the same and Mahomes is overrated really needs to think about therapy.

He can't watch anybody but the Cowboys, if he even watches the Cowboys is still up for debate given his takes.

He thinks the Cowboys have the best players at every position.