I'm really starting to like JJ Watt

[Cowboy Brian]

Earlier in the process of the draft he was one of the prospects I really hoped didn't rise so that we would not get him, but i'm really starting to like him. Its boom or bust, but he has the potential to wreck havok on the d-line for a while.

 

[Gaede]

I agree, I like at him at 9 now more than before, but, he is not boom or bust at all.

He's the type of guy you pick and get a starter/potential pro bowler for 10 years. He appears to be a pretty safe pick.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I agree, I like at him at 9 now more than before, but, he is not boom or bust at all.

He's the type of guy you pick and get a starter/potential pro bowler for 10 years. He appears to be a pretty safe pick.

I just can't bring myself to take a DE at #9 unless he was completely dominating like Suh or Fairley. You want Watt, trade back then take him.

 

[TheCount]

I just can't bring myself to take a DE at #9 unless he was completely dominating like Suh or Fairley. You want Watt, trade back then take him.

I'm with you on that one, but my reservations on DE is based more on the role they play in a 3-4. If some are expecting either JJ or Jordan to provide more of an impact than Spears did, they may be disappointed.

That is not to say they won't have an impact, I like(d) Spears. I just don't know that people will ever be happy with the numbers our DE's will put on a stat sheet.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'm with you on that one, but my reservations on DE is based more on the role they play in a 3-4. If some are expecting either JJ or Jordan to provide more of an impact than Spears did, they may be disappointed.

That is not to say they won't have an impact, I like(d) Spears. I just don't know that people will ever be happy with the numbers our DE's will put on a stat sheet.

Actually, that is my exact point. Now, if you where drafting Suh, or Ratliff (as we know him today) then I would take him even as a 3-4 DE at #9. Those guys make a major impact on the game. Spears does a solid job, but doesn't force the offense account for him on every play the way Ratliff and Suh do.

 

[UnoDallas]

Hes an Igor

 

[ghst187]

I'm still not....

 

[SDogo]

Hes an Igor

*** man?

Please explain. This is the 2nd time you have said that. I would be thrilled to hear the comparisons!

 

[fishspill]

*** man?

Please explain. This is the 2nd time you have said that. I would be thrilled to hear the comparisons!

They are both strong. Fair complected. Play DE. Wouldn't admit it out loud but love the song Angel of the Morning.

 

[SDogo]

They are both strong. Fair complected. Play DE. Wouldn't admit it out loud but love the song Angel of the Morning.

 

[UnoDallas]

*** man?

Please explain. This is the 2nd time you have said that. I would be thrilled to hear the comparisons!

did you watch any of his games ?

were you blown away by him ?

Igor was drafted # 35 overall in 2004 6-5 #315

40 Yrd Dash: 4.95
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.41
20 Yrd Dash:2.80
10 Yrd Dash: 1.75
225 Lb. Bench Reps:41
Broad Jump: 09'02"
3-Cone Drill: 7.61

Oregon with 146 tackles and 11.5 sacks

JJ Watt

40 yard dash: 4.81
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.21
20 Yrd Dash: 2.71
10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 34
Vertical Jump: 37
Broad Jump: 10'00"
20 Yrd Shuttle:4.21
3-Cone Drill: 6.88


106 tackles 11 sacks



you see the basicallly the same guy -IMO

I watched him play at least three games never heard his name

just is not an impact guy

plus these were againest college players what he is going to do againest Pro Linemen have a decent career that what I see

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

How is he boom or bust? If anything hes heavily regarded as a strong, try hard DE who probably wont be great, but probably wont suck either.

 

[JBS]

How is he boom or bust? If anything hes heavily regarded as a strong, try hard DE who probably wont be great, but probably wont suck either.

Agreed. Which = not worthy of 9..IMO

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Agreed. Which = not worthy of 9..IMO

IMO the difference between Watt and Heyward is not as big as the gap between Patrick Peterson and lets say Aaron Williams.

Or Tyron Smith and lets say Demarcus Love.


He wont create turnovers(Peterson) and he wont protect Romo(Tyron)

 

[Cover 2]

did you watch any of his games ?

were you blown away by him ?

Igor was drafted # 35 overall in 2004 6-5 #315

40 Yrd Dash: 4.95
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.41
20 Yrd Dash:2.80
10 Yrd Dash: 1.75
225 Lb. Bench Reps:41
Broad Jump: 09'02"
3-Cone Drill: 7.61

Oregon with 146 tackles and 11.5 sacks

JJ Watt

40 yard dash: 4.81
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.21
20 Yrd Dash: 2.71
10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 34
Vertical Jump: 37
Broad Jump: 10'00"
20 Yrd Shuttle:4.21
3-Cone Drill: 6.88


106 tackles 11 sacks



you see the basicallly the same guy -IMO

I watched him play at least three games never heard his name

just is not an impact guy

plus these were againest college players what he is going to do againest Pro Linemen have a decent career that what I see

You do know those Combine numbers disprove your point right?

Also I don't know what games you watched, but Watt always stood out to me. I really started noticing him back in around October because he was always making plays.

 

[TheSport78]

I'd rather trade back and take Tyron Smith or Cameron Hayward.

 

[UnoDallas]

You do know those Combine numbers disprove your point right?

Also I don't know what games you watched, but Watt always stood out to me. I really started noticing him back in around October because he was always making plays.

nope don't see how please tell me ?

there are the same player - he is a clone of Igor

 

[UnoDallas]

I'd rather trade back and take Tyron Smith or Cameron Hayward.

or any OT - DT/DE

 

[SDogo]

nope don't see how please tell me ?

there are the same player - he is a clone of Igor

So you post some combine numbers as your rebuttal, as proof as your evaluation skills? Which by the way to anybody who understands them contradicts your argument.

Yes sir, your not ducking the question. You are with out a doubt the primo talent evaluator.

I certainly can take you seriously now.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

How is he boom or bust? If anything hes heavily regarded as a strong, try hard DE who probably wont be great, but probably wont suck either.

Just a gut feeling of mine, I don't think he'll become a spears-like longterm average starter, I feel he'll either become a game changer or be below average, I don't know what makes me feel that way I just do.