I'm So Glad We Got "Spencer For Hire".

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I must have created dozens of mock drafts on what our beloved Cowboys would do in this year's draft-especially the first round. Not only did I never once include Anthony Spencer in the FIRST round, I never even thought of him at all! Oh, sure, I gave him a passing nod as I read my draft publications, but nothing serious.

I'm sure glad I'm not the one making the final decisions around Valley Ranch. After reading & listening & watching countless bits of information on the guy, I came up with this conclusion: There is not another player I would rather the Cowboys have taken! Pretty strong, eh? Well, let me explain, then come to your own conclusion.

This team gave up more passing yards & points per game the last four games of the season than ANY team in the NFL! Not the Lions, not the Browns, not the Bucs--the Cowboys. I don't know about you, but that stat scared the living crap out of me. 'Cause it doesn't matter if you can stop the run for two downs, if you can't stop the pass on third down. In fact, after a while, it becomes down right demoralizing to stop teams cold the first two times, only to watch them pick you apart the third.

I know our secondary stunk up the joint, & partly because of Anthony Henry's injury, but our pass rush rated 19th in sacks last year. That just doesn't cut it for a Dallas Cowboys defense. DeMarcus Ware was our only pressure player, & he needed a counterpart--desperately. Well, he got one---in spades.

Here is what Pat Kirwan of NFL.com had to say about our selection of Spencer:

I really like this player. In the new Cowboys 3-4 defense, they really are a four-man rush team and occasionally a five-man rush team. Spencer had 21 sacks in college and 11 forced fumbles, which might be the best in the whole draft. The ripple effect of this selection is Bobby Carpenter probably moving inside. When I interviewed Spencer, I was shocked at how strong he is. Try these numbers on for size -- 525 pounds on the bench press, 610 pounds on the squat, 365 pounds power clean. This guy is NFL-ready now.

Do you see those numbers in bold? Incredible? Amazing? Yeah, I'd say so. In fact, I know so. Because I went through every bio of every Offensive & Defensive lineman drafted along with Spencer. Of all of those behemoths, mostly bigger & heavier than him, only one, Manuel Ramirez, had higher numbers than Spencer. ONE! That basically makes him the strongest player in the draft, if you go by weight. Ramirez is 70 lbs. heavier than our boy Spencer.
Can he move? How about a 4.6 40?

Yeah, you say, but can he turn all of that into functional play on the field? How about 93 TKLs, 26.5 TFLs, & 10.5 sacks his senior year? However, what impressed me most was the opinion of the players he battled on the field. When asked who the toughest player to block was, many OTs, including the top two in the draft, Joe Thomas & Levi Brown, didn't hesitate--Anthony Spencer.

Ladies & Gentlemen, we have a winner. With DWare on his opposite side, a new, attacking defense catered to his strengths, and the fact that he is a flat out DUDE!, Spencer just might make Mel Kiper's prediction of DROY look prophetic. I just know I can't wait to watch #93 & #94 meet at the QB.

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Nice Post I really like Spencer also, I think with him Ellis and Dware, we should have no problem getting pressure on the QB
 

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Cogan;1501483 said:
Try these numbers on for size -- 525 pounds on the bench press, 610 pounds on the squat, 365 pounds power clean. This guy is NFL-ready now.

I am always amazed when people see work out numbers and instantly claim that person is "NFL-ready".

Since when are players lifting weights out on the field? Or running timed sprints?

Numbers are nice, but are just a small part in evaluating a player.

Remember. Guys like Mike Mamula and Tony Mandarich put up astounding workout numbers. Guys like Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith? Not so much.
 

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Must admit I never considered drafting another OLB with our first pick cause I thought somehow Wade could turn either Carpenter, Hatcher or Burnett into that great player we needed opposite Ware. I was also hoping Ellis would come back all the way from rehab too. In other words I was living in a fantasy world. Reality hit when we traded back into the first round to draft Spencer. Must admit I couldn't understand that, if he's so great, why wasn't he a top 10 pick. But I quickly became enthused about him as I heard more and saw 1-2 videos. He sure looks like something special; sure liked Bradie James comment that Spencer was much faster then he thought Spencer would be, how much intensity he played with & how he roamed about making so many plays. Combined with his strength I do agree he sounds like he's NFL ready now & we surely need him.

Makes me wonder about the timing of Ellis again raising my hackles when he again questions his value/use by the team in the future & wants more money. Offsetting Ellis' attitude was finding out he had been helpful to Spencer when Spencer approached him for some ideas. To me, that still sounds like the team player we've always believed Ellis to be.
 

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NoDak Cowboy;1501493 said:
I am always amazed when people see work out numbers and instantly claim that person is "NFL-ready".

Since when are players lifting weights out on the field? Or running timed sprints?

I think he was simply alluding to the physical aspect/size/weight/power part of the "NFL-Ready"
 

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YoMick;1501507 said:
I think he was simply alluding to the physical aspect/size/weight/power part of the "NFL-Ready"

Yes it is really hard not to be impressed. This kid has Ellis worried about taking his spot opposite Ware for a good reason. And the thought of having all three on the field at the same time is exciting.:D
 

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nice post... I too did not think we would take Spencer but I can honestly say after reading everything I have about him...I am very glad we took him. I'm looking forward to big things from our D this year
 

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Cogan;1501483 said:
I just know I can't wait to watch #93 & #94 meet at the QB.

I beleive Ellis is going to be ready to play by training camp. The question is, how productive he will be. If Spencer takes the starting position, what are the over and under of Ware/Spencer combined sack totals? 20? 25? I don't know, but it's very intriguing to think about the possibilities. I think Spencer has the tools to be a Pro Bowl level player. The question is will he. Playing opposite Ware isn't going to hurt that proposition.
 

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Just thinking. If Spencer and Ware work together very well. In the future they could be talking about the Ware/Spencer combo like you hear people talk about Harrison/Wayne, Henderson/Stroud, Reggie White/Clyde Simmons.

Newman should get more picks if so. :)
 

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BIGWAY;1501534 said:
Yes it is really hard not to be impressed. This kid has Ellis worried about taking his spot opposite Ware for a good reason. And the thought of having all three on the field at the same time is exciting.:D


Yeah.... Ellis is still of great value... even if only situational... I think if Ellis concentrates on his "job title".. he cant help alot with little
 

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nyc;1501598 said:
Just thinking. If Spencer and Ware work together very well. In the future they could be talking about the Ware/Spencer combo like you hear people talk about Harrison/Wayne, Henderson/Stroud, Reggie White/Clyde Simmons.

Newman should get more picks if so. :)
:hammer:
 

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Agree with all of you.
I to didn't see OLB coming in RD1. Didn't and still don't think Ellis comes back full strenght. Just thought Capenter would be the answer there.

All I have seen and heard of this kid excites me.
He looked "special" in the highlights I saw. Quick, strong and explosive with some of those hits.
I love the stats on him. The TFL and sacks are extremely impressive. The fact that he was second on the team in tackles as a DL was also impressive. That shows hustle!
All the compliments from top competition also ring true.

The only thing I can't understand, the one thing that nags me just a little is where he was drafted.
How does a guy with all this going for him slip to 26?

Was it the fact that he's a true tweener? Does a college DE projected as a 3-4 OLB in the pros carry an extra risk premium perhaps pushing him down the first round?
Did the handful of 3-4 teams that passed on him simply have a greater need or higher ranked player at their slot?
 

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sonnyboy;1501621 said:
The only thing I can't understand, the one thing that nags me just a little is where he was drafted.
How does a guy with all this going for him slip to 26?

Did the handful of 3-4 teams that passed on him simply have a greater need or higher ranked player at their slot?


I wonder that too sometimes with players when the go lower than first though... but I think maybe you answered it to some degree with your next question...
 

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After my last post I went to NFL.COM to check out his scouting report.
This is unbelievable.

Compares To: Shaun Phillips, San Diego -- Both players were developed in the Joe Tiller system at Purdue to attack the quarterback with quickness … Both lack the ideal size you look for in a defensive end, but Phillips proved that he was capable of competing in a stand-up position … Spencer was a better prospect than Phillips coming out of college … If used in a similar system, Spencer will have just as much success in the pro ranks that Phillips has shown.

How could we have expected Wade to draft anyone else?;)
 

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sonnyboy;1501621 said:
The only thing I can't understand, the one thing that nags me just a little is where he was drafted.
How does a guy with all this going for him slip to 26?
He is small for a 4-3 DE. There are very few 3-4 teams right now. New England is one, but that snatched Meriweather and had full intention on taking Spencer at 28th. When we drafted Spencer at 26, New England decided to trade down.
 

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nyc;1501660 said:
He is small for a 4-3 DE. There are very few 3-4 teams right now. New England is one, but that snatched Meriweather and had full intention on taking Spencer at 28th. When we drafted Spencer at 26, New England decided to trade down.

I think you're right.

:)
 

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I think another reason Spencer did not go so high was because he really didn't break out until his senior year, which may have had teams concerned, and also factor in that there were not many 3-4 teams ahead of us, which is why I think Spencer dropped so far.
 

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NoDak Cowboy;1501493 said:
I am always amazed when people see work out numbers and instantly claim that person is "NFL-ready".

Since when are players lifting weights out on the field? Or running timed sprints?


The good news is that he shouldn't have to be NFL ready. If Greg Ellis can be ready at the start of the season, Spencer can earn his time on the field instead of being handed the job.
 
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