I'm so sick of the McNabb hype

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Quit hating. I despise the Eagles as much as anyone. But, McNabb is one of the most likable guys in the league. Not to mention, he is by far the best player in the NFL this year, so far. Hands down, the MVP.

If he puts up 300 and 3 tomorrow, what will you say then?
 

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There's no denying that McNabb is having an MVP year......right now.

Hopefully, his collapse starts this week with some good defensive pressure on him and some stellar play from our secondary.

I remember Drew Bledsoe having an MVP year at this time last season. That was until Flo got injured and our o-line collapsed. Everyone was saying Bledsoe was over-rated too.

It's early, alot can happen. Let's start Donovan's slide this week.

Go Cowboys!!
 

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MTRS-Jon;1072678 said:
While I agree in principal that many of the accolades being given to McNabb are indeed premature, you cannot dispute that he is a top ten QB in the league. You can roll out his numbers until you are blue in the face, but he has led the most dominant team in the NFC East this decade.

If Mcnabb was wearing silver and blue with a star on his helmet instead of the eagle most of you would be kissing his jock just like everyone else. You can complain about a supposed ESPN bias all you want to, but every fan base of every professional team believes that ESPN is biased against their team.

I laugh at the comments on this board all the time, a lot of you guys are quick to point out deficiencies in officiating for the Cowboys and then point to the Commander fans about what a bunch of crybabies they are for complaining about the referees.

I think many fans in every sport cannot drop the homer glasses that are covering their eyes, and that discolors their opinions. On the flip side some people are so adverse to being a homer that they become hyper-critical of their team. It always amazes me, the wide spectrum of emotions fans in general can display. I submit to you, before you "hate" a person that you do not know nor will ever know to try and be objective. You might not get as worked up and will significantly lower your risk of blowing a gasket!!!

I want to add that I am not trying to single anybody out with my comments. How you react and feel about this team certain players etc. is your business alone. It makes no difference to me how you feel or what kind of a fan you are, I appreciate everyone's opinion. I don’t agree with many of them, but I respect your right to have one. I guess that is why I like seeing fans from opposing teams frequent this board. I appreciate their point of view without seeing all of the "your team sucks" waste of bandwidth posts.

Ok, let me climb down off this box before someone pushes me off. LOL

Jon

Nicely thought out post. I have to disagree with you on one aspect though.

If Mcnabb was wearing silver and blue with a star on his helmet instead of the eagle most of you would be kissing his jock just like everyone else. You can complain about a supposed ESPN bias all you want to, but every fan base of every professional team believes that ESPN is biased against their team.

The bias against the Cowboys is very real and its based on a very rational line of thinking. The Cowboys are the most popular team in the NFL among real fans. (In real fans, i am discarding only the folks who go an buy the jersey of the Winning SB QB each year just to look cool).

Because of that popularity, there is the inevitable flip-side of resentment from other fans. Even though the Cowboys have a larger fans base than any other team, it's size is not 32 times larger. Therefore the "anti-cowboy" fanbase is much much larger than the Cowboy fan-base.

Talk to a Giants fan. They hate the Cowboys. Talk to a Denver fan. They hate the Cowboys. Talk to a Raven, Viking, Bears or Cleveland fan. They hate the Cowboys.

I am a Cowboy fan. I hate the Skins, Eagles, Niners, Packers, Steelers and Giants. Personally, I'm pretty ambivalent about the a number of NFL teams though.

There are very very few real NFL fans who are ambivalent about the Cowboys.

This leads to two results:

1) These media guys are fans themselves it's extremely difficult to completely suppress likes and dislikes and often the underlying dislike for the Cowboys will bleed through.

2) More importantly, siding against the Cowboys caters to the majority of football fans out there, which is their job. To cater to the largest audience possible.

Finally, it's the second point above that further justifies the first point...allowing for more bias to be exposed.


Honestly, there's not much wrong with that. It is their job to attract the most people. This is a very successful way of doing it.
 

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MossBurner;1072844 said:
Quit hating. I despise the Eagles as much as anyone. But, McNabb is one of the most likable guys in the league. Not to mention, he is by far the best player in the NFL this year, so far. Hands down, the MVP.

If he puts up 300 and 3 tomorrow, what will you say then?

I call BS on MVP with McBlabb.
 

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First off, me pointing out what I pointed out in the original thread was not meant to imply that Bledsoe is better or that he has played better teams or anything like that. But the key difference there is that no one is going around saying Bledsoe is having an MVP year or that he is so great and so much better off without the best WR in the league, etc.

Second, no, I would not be riding the McNabb bandwagon if he were a Cowboy. There are two things I really want in my QB. The first is accuracy. Generally, I would like to see my QB completing over 60% of his passes and not have them all be dump off passes. The second thing I like is leadership. He has to be respected, he has to work his butt off, he has to be tough and confident and elevate the play of those around him.

Aikman was both of these things. That's why I liked him so much. A guy like Carter was neither of those things and that's why I never supported him. McNabb is also neither of those things and that's why I would never support him. Bledsoe is not the most accurate guy (though he does have several seasons over 60%) but I do see him as that leader type of guy, so I can support him.
 

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MossBurner;1072844 said:
If he puts up 300 and 3 tomorrow, what will you say then?

If he puts up 300 and 3 tomorrow, I just hope Newman returns one of the 3 for a TD.

300 yards is doable when your trying to fight your way back into the game.

3 interceptions is almost a given.
 

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Erik_H;1072864 said:
Nicely thought out post. I have to disagree with you on one aspect though.



The bias against the Cowboys is very real and its based on a very rational line of thinking. The Cowboys are the most popular team in the NFL among real fans. (In real fans, i am discarding only the folks who go an buy the jersey of the Winning SB QB each year just to look cool).

Because of that popularity, there is the inevitable flip-side of resentment from other fans. Even though the Cowboys have a larger fans base than any other team, it's size is not 32 times larger. Therefore the "anti-cowboy" fanbase is much much larger than the Cowboy fan-base.

Talk to a Giants fan. They hate the Cowboys. Talk to a Denver fan. They hate the Cowboys. Talk to a Raven, Viking, Bears or Cleveland fan. They hate the Cowboys.

I am a Cowboy fan. I hate the Skins, Eagles, Niners, Packers, Steelers and Giants. Personally, I'm pretty ambivalent about the a number of NFL teams though.

There are very very few real NFL fans who are ambivalent about the Cowboys.

This leads to two results:

1) These media guys are fans themselves it's extremely difficult to completely suppress likes and dislikes and often the underlying dislike for the Cowboys will bleed through.

2) More importantly, siding against the Cowboys caters to the majority of football fans out there, which is their job. To cater to the largest audience possible.

Finally, it's the second point above that further justifies the first point...allowing for more bias to be exposed.


Honestly, there's not much wrong with that. It is their job to attract the most people. This is a very successful way of doing it.


Very well put and I stand corrected on my earlier post. Looking at it in that light I understand the basis for your bias against the boys argument. I believe that many Cowboys fans take this bias far to seriously though.

This is why I frequent this board. I have had quite a few discussions on this board where my opinions were altered because an opposing view was offered and made me pause and think. This is much better then the "your wrong because you suck" arguments that seem to be prevelant.

Props Erik, I would discuss this team with you anytime.

Jon
 

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I jsut cant believe has labeled as a funny person.......

"Donovan, what are you working on this off-season?:"

- " My sexiness, I want to be sexier"


Man, thats classic, where does he come up with this stuff?


The same idiots who think hes funny laugh when Clinton Portis puts on a wacky wig.

wowsers, his wig is a different color and way too big for his head........its a big red wig.....what a funny guy
 

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I don't know about all that, but I'm sure glad he's on my team.

I wasn't enamored by his game today. I'd like to see him be more consistent. That being said, he was playing a pretty damn good defense and didn't have much help from his running game. All in all, he did what he needed to do and put up some decent numbers.
 

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Where's all the talk now?? One thing I can't stand is a fan who can't admit when he's wrong. I hate McNabb and the eagles more than anyone. But he's a beast when he's healthy and he shredded the Boys yesterday. Man up fellas.
 

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I think this tidbit, from the cowboys own website, might shed some light on why so many cowboys fans love to hate McNabb

Oct 9 Rob Phillips, of DallasCowboys.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb threw for 354 yards versus the Dallas Cowboys in Week 5, marking an all-time high of passing yards given up by the franchise. McNabb surpassed the previous record of 345 yards he had set in 2004.
 

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McNabb has close to 300 yards more than the next passer on the yardage charts. He is good, get over it.
 
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