I'm starting the thread... Bill must go.

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He took a 5-11 team and made them 10-6 but, when he was allowed bring in "his guys" the team regressed steadily. (Wow, I guess we know why Robert Kraft didn't allow him to shop for groceries in New England)

Herein lies the problem, instead of trying to bring in every guy who used to play for him that was still active in the league he should have been focusing on improving the team, period. A truly great coach can beat you with his toys and then turn around and beat you with yours. However, Parcells hasn't showed the flexibility, imagination and motivation capable of winning with his 'new guys' and his 'old guys'.

Almost everything Bill has done has been reactive and visionless. As soon as the Texans fired Dom Capers, Parcells should have had Capers on a plane to Valley Ranch and Mike Zimmer on a plane to Gilligan's Island.(see Joe Gibbs recruiting of Gregg Williams) Quincy Carter was running for his life in '03 and now Bledsoe is running for his in '06. Parcells had four years to fix this offensive line and it's as bad as it was when he first got here. Both of these decisions show a lack of imagination, prognostication and planning for the future: and those aren't the only ones. What of lowballing Jake Delhomme only to watch him sign with Carolina and turn them into an NFC power? Letting Hudson Hauck walk? Giving Mike Zimmer a raise to not coach the Nebraska Cornhuskers?

Parcells was a great coach but as we have seen with Tom Landry, there comes a day when even great coaches get passed on by the everchanging NFL game. Parcells' time has obviously come. Much like his counterpart in Washington, Joe Gibbs, Parcells is still living in the 80's and seems out of touch with today's athlete. He is still trying to win games 16-13 in a league where the mentality is a lot more wide open, imaginative and aggressive.

Much like Drew Bledsoe, Parcells' time has come and it is time for him to go.
 

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Never wanted him here to begin with. His "win now" attitude was a BAD mix for this team and the situation we are in I had predicted since day 1.
 

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O NOOO!
get campo back here asap! we should be losing to the texans, not beating them!

cmon, the whole parcells must go thing is pathetic, we were the worst team in the NFL team before parcells came. Now we are moving up the pack. Every aspect of this team has improved since parcells took over.

But go ahead and jump ship, i dont want to be sitting next to the chicken littles when we start winning anyway
 

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BeWare: I agree with the great coach thing (ie. toys), and I agree that BP should have not brought in so many of his ex-players... but, TG and JF have been very very good additions and the 3-4 switch as at worse a wash with what was here since Jimmy left...

But: to say the game has passed Parcells by is just so cliche I don't know where to begin. Nothing points to that. We average 24pts a game. We are 3-3. Has the game passed Del Rio by? Has the game passed Mike Martz and his high octane wide open offense? Detroit is 1-6.

Everyone wants a quick fix in the NFL. Some are luckier than others to get it. But to say Bill Cowher is a better coach than Bill Parcells is garbage. Cowher's team is 2-4. Has the game passed him by since January?

Methinks not.

I like the Gambit sig btw. :)
 

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Sarge;1114870 said:
Never wanted him here to begin with. His "win now" attitude was a BAD mix for this team and the situation we are in I had predicted since day 1.

I've lost ALOT of respect for the fish.
 

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Sign me up. Like a few here, I was not a fan of this move from day 1.
 

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koolaid;1114918 said:
O NOOO!
get campo back here asap! we should be losing to the texans, not beating them!

cmon, the whole parcells must go thing is pathetic, we were the worst team in the NFL team before parcells came. Now we are moving up the pack. Every aspect of this team has improved since parcells took over.

But go ahead and jump ship, i dont want to be sitting next to the chicken littles when we start winning anyway

Just because Parcells goes doesn't mean that Campo comes back. You do know that there are many possible candidates other than Campo who can fill this job position? Since you'd obviously like to compare Parcells to former Cowboys coaches why not compare him to Jimmy Johnson? Johnson took over a worse team than Parcells and in year four they were Super Bowl champs.

Don't settle for a "C" simply because you had an "F" before. Try to get an "A". Parcells is a "C". We've had worse than Parcells but we can get better than him as well. In the last four years this team has gone from bad to mediocre under him. So as you say, the team is improved in every facet but we still aren't good at anything. Maybe in year 8 of the Parcells regime we can have a good offense or maybe a good defense or special teams. We don't excel at anything under Tuna.
 

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mmohican29;1114927 said:
BeWare: I agree with the great coach thing (ie. toys), and I agree that BP should have not brought in so many of his ex-players... but, TG and JF have been very very good additions and the 3-4 switch as at worse a wash with what was here since Jimmy left...

But: to say the game has passed Parcells by is just so cliche I don't know where to begin. Nothing points to that. We average 24pts a game. We are 3-3. Has the game passed Del Rio by? Has the game passed Mike Martz and his high octane wide open offense? Detroit is 1-6.

Everyone wants a quick fix in the NFL. Some are luckier than others to get it. But to say Bill Cowher is a better coach than Bill Parcells is garbage. Cowher's team is 2-4. Has the game passed him by since January?

Methinks not.

I like the Gambit sig btw. :)

As for the Cowher-Parcells thing let's compare their records over the last four years...no freaking contest.

I agree that everyone wants a quick fix but I am not one of those people. I don't think 4 years in today's NFL signifies a 'quick fix'. This team is marginally better than it was when Parcells took over.

Credit Woody's Girl for the sig. Her great Storm sig was my inspiration to put my fav X-Man in my sig.
 

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Pure stupidity!
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Just the kind of stupid response I would expect for someone with the handle 'tunahelper'. Instead of saying "pure stupidity" why not show your work and give some opposing viewpoints. Oh, that would require some intelligence.
 

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of course he must go...the question is which owner will make the right move first....jerry or snyder?

Parcells shouldn't be fired...but he has to retire after the year.
 

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BP has been a huge disappointment to me. We seem to be making progress on upgrading the talent on the roster. But it isn't translating to W's. Of course you never know who JJ will bring in here, but I wouldn't be disappointed if BP left after this season. He just isn't the same coach that he was 20 years ago. Just as important, almost all the assistants need to go as well. We have a couple of decent ones I'd like to see stay. To make sure I'm clear - Zimmer can get the hell out at anytime. We run the worst 3-4 D in the league.
 

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BeWare94;1114865 said:
He took a 5-11 team and made them 10-6 but, when he was allowed bring in "his guys" the team regressed steadily. (Wow, I guess we know why Robert Kraft didn't allow him to shop for groceries in New England)

Herein lies the problem, instead of trying to bring in every guy who used to play for him that was still active in the league he should have been focusing on improving the team, period. A truly great coach can beat you with his toys and then turn around and beat you with yours. However, Parcells hasn't showed the flexibility, imagination and motivation capable of winning with his 'new guys' and his 'old guys'.

Almost everything Bill has done has been reactive and visionless. As soon as the Texans fired Dom Capers, Parcells should have had Capers on a plane to Valley Ranch and Mike Zimmer on a plane to Gilligan's Island.(see Joe Gibbs recruiting of Gregg Williams) Quincy Carter was running for his life in '03 and now Bledsoe is running for his in '06. Parcells had four years to fix this offensive line and it's as bad as it was when he first got here. Both of these decisions show a lack of imagination, prognostication and planning for the future: and those aren't the only ones. What of lowballing Jake Delhomme only to watch him sign with Carolina and turn them into an NFC power? Letting Hudson Hauck walk? Giving Mike Zimmer a raise to not coach the Nebraska Cornhuskers?

Parcells was a great coach but as we have seen with Tom Landry, there comes a day when even great coaches get passed on by the everchanging NFL game. Parcells' time has obviously come. Much like his counterpart in Washington, Joe Gibbs, Parcells is still living in the 80's and seems out of touch with today's athlete. He is still trying to win games 16-13 in a league where the mentality is a lot more wide open, imaginative and aggressive.

Much like Drew Bledsoe, Parcells' time has come and it is time for him to go.

excellent post!!

agree with everything...........especially with the way the offense line has been handled..

oh..... and the way he has brought in his old players .

it's so easy to see that he was trying to win a quick superbowl before he retired.

he did show me a glimmer of hope when he put romo in last night..day late and a dollar short though..
 

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Sarge;1114870 said:
Never wanted him here to begin with. His "win now" attitude was a BAD mix for this team and the situation we are in I had predicted since day 1.


what exactly was a bad mix. He has increased the talent and depth of the team 10-fold and has done it without trading picks, breaking the bank on scrubs and sacrificing the future........That sounds kind of like a win now and later type of gameplan if you ask me. You can make a complaint all you want that he has not lived up to expectations on the field but he has jacked the roster with talented high character guys.

And what exactly is the situation you predicted Ms Cleo?


Bill Parcells may not lead this team back to the playoffs and possibly further but gaurantee one thing.....The coach who does will do so with 90% of the current roster......damned near all of which were brought to Dallas by Bill.
 
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