In favor of or against and uncapped season?

[SkinsandTerps]

I am on the fence with this for a couple of reasons. I know that the Commanders have contingency plans in place for either scenario (according Vinny Cerrato on Sirius a couple of days ago).

[On a rare thread started by me]

I am just curious what other people think about the whole thing, and why ?

 

[Wheat]

Not in favor.

Uncapped NFL makes us as bad as MLB.

I am in favor of of copying the NBA's rookie system for salaries.

 

[Hostile]

Against uncapped years.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I am in favor of of copying the NBA's rookie system for salaries.

I am as well. I made a comment the other day about this has to be partially the reasoning behind established NFL players participating in holdouts for more money.

There is no way that Alex Smith deserves a 50M contract. I almost expect Big Ben (after only 2 years) to holdout next season, its getting ridiculous.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Against uncapped years.

Guess I need to edit my initial post to add, "and why".

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

A modified uncapped "pilot program" season could be launched to determine associated ramifications and benefits. I'm not an advocate ...largely because the "capped" component serves as a regualated systems to keep more lucrative franchises in check; especially against smaller/new franchises.

I'm selling on this one!

 

[SkinsandTerps]

A modified uncapped "pilot program" season could be launched to determine associated ramifications and benefits. I'm not an advocate ...largely because the "capped" component serves as a regualated systems to keep more lucrative franchises in check; especially against smaller/new franchises.

I'm selling on this one!

Thing is that they couldnt make an accurate assessment of what it would be like until after the 2007 season.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Thing is that they couldnt make an accurate assessment of what it would be like until after the 2007 season.

...otherwise, I'm not buying it!

 

[SkinsandTerps]

...otherwise, I'm not buying it!

PT, I am going to take this on a small tangent.

Do you expect the Eagles to make the playoffs next season ? And if so how far ?

Same question for Cowboys fans.

 

[Hostile]

Guess I need to edit my initial post to add, "and why".

Because the small market teams can compete in the NFL. The cap allows competition between the teams. uncapped it just means the richest owners can buy whatever they want.

I like the strategy of the cap. I think it has made Free Agency more fun. This is why I think the NFLPA should want it. Free Agents are actually free.

I also think once you've moved forward, never move backwards.

 

[AbeBeta]

Against. The cap is in place for a reason. To avoid teams buying championships. Parity means that any team, any year has a shot - even the Bengals.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

We all witnessed the Commanders try to buy a Championship in 2000. We also witnessed the Ravens buy one with a terrible offense.

Yankees and Red Sox havent been overly successful buying championships in recent years, however the teams that have won seem to have a firesale shortly after winning. The Braves have a self-imposed cap and are contenders seemingly every year, but overall they are almost expected to lose once the post season rolls around.

Hos, I also agree that if the league goes uncapped there will be no turning back.

 

[Hostile]

PT, I am going to take this on a small tangent.

Do you expect the Eagles to make the playoffs next season ? And if so how far ?

Same question for Cowboys fans.

No, I don't expect the Eagles to make the playoffs next year.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

Defiitely against an uncapped system. Parity is good for the gme and "buying" a championship team could ruin the game overall. Major league baseball is an example of where it could eventually result in contraction and continued imbalance in a major professional sport. If the big fish are allowed to spend freely, then smaller market teams would simply dissappear. The NFL has been the most stable professional sports league in North America for some time now. It's in the players' and the owners' best interests to maintain the status quo, albeit with some issues regarding the distribution of money to be resolved.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Uncapped is stupid. It allows bigger market teams to buy whatever they want (as Hos said). Whether that translates into a championship doesn't matter. It provides them with a greater advantage to obtain a championship. Disbanding the salary cap allows organizations to hedge against a lack of coaching and management. It's a means of implementing equity across the league and needs to be maintained.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

PT, I am going to take this on a small tangent.

Do you expect the Eagles to make the playoffs next season ? And if so how far ?

Dayam SaT ...if that was a "small" diversion from the topic, I'd hate to see you really zone-out on something.

Allow me to do a Little diversion of my own ...I "expected" the Cowboys to make the 2005 playoff -- I still can't explain it ...they were on fire! I
"expected" the G-Men to go further into the Playoff than they did -- that just goes to show you that any team can choke on any given gameday! The Skins ...well, you know the Skins better than I do, you looked good -- real good for a while, I had my fingers crossed (you probabLy already kow I'm an NFCE fan also).

Ok, let me first get the obvious part of my response out of the way ...of course! As a dedicated fan of any Franchise, you must expect postivies. Now, realistically, is a bird of another feather.

I expect the Eagles to fly under the radar until they get some positions filled with depth ...QB position for starters. It may be just a tad bit early to make a "realistic" expectation without knowing who Eagles Management will go after in the draft (Eagle fans know who we'd like to go after ...Eagles GM makes the call), or obtain through FA acquisitions.

Now, here's a developing questions ...since they'll be no surprises in the NFCE (except for whether or not the Eagles will remain in the NFCE basement) ...


...will the Cowboys continue their improvement/rise to the top?

...will the Giants return back to the road of the playoffs?

...was the Skins performance a fluke, or the real deal -- and will they
return to the playoffs?

...bBack in your court SaT

 

[SkinsandTerps]

haha. Small tangent, because my response has to do with the cap in some fashion of course.

From the current CBA :

FINAL EIGHT PLAN

Section 1. Application: The provisions of this Article shall apply only in any League Year during the term of this Agreement in which no Salary Cap is in effect.

Section 2. Top Four Teams: Each of the four Clubs that participated in the NFC and AFC Championship games the Prior League Year shall not be permitted to negotiate and sign any Unrestricted Free Agent to a Player Contract, except: (a) any Unrestricted Free Agent who acquired that status as a result of the NFL waiver system; (b) any Unrestricted Free Agent who was under contract to such Club on the last date of the last League Year of the player’s most recent Player Contract; and (c) any Unrestricted Free Agent signed pursuant to Section 4 below.

Section 3. Next Four Teams: Each of the four playoff Clubs that lost in the immediately preceding playoff games to the four Clubs that participated in the NFC and AFC Championship games the Prior League Year shall not be permitted to negotiate and sign any Unrestricted Free Agent to a Player contract, except: (a) any Unrestricted Free Agent who acquired that status as a result of the NFL waiver system; (b) any Unrestricted Free Agent who was under contract to such Club on the last date of the last League Year of the player’s most recent Player contract; (c) any Unrestricted Free Agent signed pursuant to Section 4 below; and (d) any Unrestricted Free Agent as follows:

(i) One such player for a Player Contract that has a first year Salary of $1,500,000 or more; and

(ii) Any number of such players for a Player Contract that has a first year Salary of no more than $1,000,000 and an annual increase in any future contract years of no more than 30% of the first contract year Salary, not including any amount attributed to any signing bonus. In addition, each such Club and each such player entering into a Player Contract pursuant to this subsection may not renegotiate to increase the amount of Salary to be paid during the term of the Player Contract for a period of one year after the signing date of such contract.

Section 4. Replacement of Free Agents Signed by Other Club: Each of the eight Clubs subject to the provisions of this Article shall be permitted to negotiate and sign one Unrestricted Free Agent to a Player Contract (“New Player&#8221 for each Unrestricted Free Agent who was under contract to such Club on the last date of the prior League Year, who has signed with another Club (“Previous Player&#8221, so long as the Player Contract for the New Player shall have a first year Salary of no more than the first year Salary of the Player Contract signed by the Previous Player with the New Club, and an annual increase in any future contract years of no more than 30% of the first contract year Salary, excluding any amounts attributable to any signing bonus. In addition, each such Club and each such player entering into a Player Contract pursuant to this subsection may not renegotiate to increase the amount of Salary to be paid during the term of the Player Contract for a period of one year after the signing date of such contract.