In light of Jerry's anger at being questioned

Sydla

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never forget that he once uttered "dead money" for coaches was an issue. And that's why Mike McCarthy is still here. Because Jerry is loathe to pay a head coach to not coach his team while having to pay for another guy to actually coach.

This team has a roster problem. It also has a coaching problem. A problem that could and should have been rectified right after the GB game. But Jerry is arrogant and even worse, Jerry has become cheap.

Changing coaches was the easiest and likely most impactful move he could have made, especially considering how he claimed over and over that there would be accountability after that GB game. Jerry punted on what should have been the easiest decision. If we can't expect him to do that right, than it's almost impossible to expect him to fix the roster, which is a far more complicated matter.
 

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?
 

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?
This is accurate
 

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?
Right. Funny how Mike made Dak into a QB that led the league in TD passes and 2nd in MVP just last season. This season that same QB can’t hit the broad side of a barn and now his scheme is outdated?

The Oline and RB is to blame a lot.
 

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I think it's easy for people to spend other's money. Yes they make a lot of money, but simply spending money on top of more money does not solve problems. It is HOW you spend the money that counts. Who would we have hired as coach this year? What kind of change over would it have caused on the rest of the coaching staff? How would it have affected current player policy and draft approach this past spring? There are a ton of moving parts to consider in firing McCarthy early, and they chose not too because of the coming rebuild. He was always going to be a lame duck coach this year.

Frankly, I said and still think this is a rebuilding year for the Cowboys. I think they know this. They are resetting the cap in light of CeeDee, Dak, and Parsons contracts. They want as many cheaper, young players as they can have on the team which is why they are letting them play it out and develop. I think they are going to turn over the roster a bit more after this season than in a normal year, and probably are on a 2-year rebuild to capitalize on the last part of Dak's career. They will probably sign him to one more contract if he delivers playoff wins on the back end of his current contract.

I think this was always the plan. Whether it works or not is anyone's guess. But I think the Cowboys shot their shot the last three years with the cap, the team was too soft, and it didn't pan out. What REALLY matters is their philosophy next year with a new head coach, and whether that philosophy aligns with current NFL trends (e.g. having good DTs, using motion on offense, etc..)

Given some player injuries, they will probably be better next year after getting some guys back. But they also need to be aggressive in turning over the bottom half of the roster and spending what cap money they do have as wisely as possible, while developing a consistent strategy from year to year like SF or Pittsburgh does.
 

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?


This 100%. There is no scheming for players who can’t get off blocks and make tackles.

There is no scheming for OL players who just get physically beat over and over again.


Mike does need to go. But coaching alone won’t solve this.



Jerry getting defensive over questions is his narcissism coming out. He just took a big L and now he is in defense mode to protect his psyche.
 

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?
He needs to go.

His fault, their fault, nobody's fault.
 

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Jerry needs to treat this team like he just bought it. The problem is, he can't look at this team objectively anymore. Outsiders looking in can see the major issues. After almost 30 years of this clown show, this organization needs to be blown up. Hire a great GM and let him build the team. Problem is, Jerry can't stay out of everything. When your owner is telling the press who's playing on a weekly basis, you have a major issue. It undermines EVERYTHING and EVERYONE. Selling the team is the only cure at this point. We all know that's not happening.
 

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Jerry would do anything known to man to win a Super Bowl and if he could buy one the amount would be embarrassing.

He draws the line at paying head coaches dead money though. That's way too expensive.
So was Derrick Henry, according to Jerry. The offense would look much different right now if he had signed just this one impact player, but nope, bringing Zeke back was his move.
 

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Right. Funny how Mike made Dak into a QB that led the league in TD passes and 2nd in MVP just last season. This season that same QB can’t hit the broad side of a barn and now his scheme is outdated?

The Oline and RB is to blame a lot.
Umm, Dak hasn't had the luxury of a tomato can schedule this season. That's a bigger reason for the steep decline
 

Sydla

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?
I literally said there is a roster problem in my post.

But the fact is, the easiest and most impactful move they could have made post-GB would have been to fire McCarthy. He's a slug. He's not a good coach. The team is consistently undisciplined. His offense disappears in big games. His clock management mistakes are hilarious. There was no reason to continue to allow him to coach the Cowboys beyond the fact that Jerry owed him money. That's it.

If you can't expect Jerry to make that call (of worse, financial decisions factored into the reason to keep him), how in the world can one expect him to be competent enough at this point in his life to properly assess the roster and make the necessary changes? That's the point.

And yes, I think a better coach would have squeezed more out of this team than McCarthy has. But yes, it would still be a highly flawed team with no real prospects of making a run.
 

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never forget that he once uttered "dead money" for coaches was an issue. And that's why Mike McCarthy is still here. Because Jerry is loathe to pay a head coach to not coach his team while having to pay for another guy to actually coach.

This team has a roster problem. It also has a coaching problem. A problem that could and should have been rectified right after the GB game. But Jerry is arrogant and even worse, Jerry has become cheap.

Changing coaches was the easiest and likely most impactful move he could have made, especially considering how he claimed over and over that there would be accountability after that GB game. Jerry punted on what should have been the easiest decision. If we can't expect him to do that right, than it's almost impossible to expect him to fix the roster, which is a far more complicated matter.
The most important issue with the Cowboys is that they have a culture problem. Until that is fixed, nothing else will change. Doesn't matter who is brought in.
 

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You really think firing Mike would solve the problem?

I like Mike but accept that his time is about up. That's fine, that's the way this league is.

But this is more a personnel problem than a coaching one. They lost seven or eight important players and didn't even try to replace them.

And you think another coach could make Dak read defenses faster or run better or stop panicking? Or stop anyone's offense with the worst defensive line in the league?
Do you really think the Saints are that much better than us?

Of course talent is an issue, but coaching is huge. Firing Mike now won't change much, but we should've turned over this failed staff during the off season.
 

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Jerry would do anything known to man to win a Super Bowl and if he could buy one the amount would be embarrassing.

He draws the line at paying head coaches dead money though. That's way too expensive.
And 8 million dollar RB's who dominate the league. We now know that the check Jerry would write to win a SB is somewhere below 8 million.
 
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