Incentive Laden Deals and The Cap

[Verdict]

It seems as though we may be hamstrung this year as far as acquiring players in free agency. With that being said, Spencer is an interesting player (and as much as I have bashed Spencer) in that he is a guy who could probably help us on the cap this year.

My understanding of incentive laden deals are considered "likely to be earned" when the player's stats from the previous year meet or exceed the incentives in the contract. Because Spencer really didn't play essentially all year long, is would be very easy to sign him to a contract that the incentives would essentially be easily met, but not considered likely to be earned (pushing the incentive money into next year's cap).

That is something to keep in mind as we move forward.

 

[xwalker]

It seems as though we may be hamstrung this year as far as acquiring players in free agency. With that being said, Spencer is an interesting player (and as much as I have bashed Spencer) in that he is a guy who could probably help us on the cap this year.

My understanding of incentive laden deals are considered "likely to be earned" when the player's stats from the previous year meet or exceed the incentives in the contract. Because Spencer really didn't play essentially all year long, is would be very easy to sign him to a contract that the incentives would essentially be easily met, but not considered likely to be earned (pushing the incentive money into next year's cap).

That is something to keep in mind as we move forward.

That would be the only way to even consider signing Spencer. There is a significant possibility that he can never play again.

 

[johnson2]

not sure i completely understand.

there is different cap hits based on if the incentives are considered likely to be earned or something?

how bout a quick example? doesnt have to use real data or anything

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

How do ladels of incentives go with jalapeno cheese corn bread?

 

[johnson2]

i had a jalapeno cheese corn dog from a gas station last summer on a bike trip. i still dont feel right. ladels of incentives cant be worse

 

[yentl911]

Has anyone heard if Spencer is making any progress in his recovery? I know it is going to be a long haul but he is four months removed from surgery. Just wondering.

I think we missed his presence and play this yer more than people want to admit. I think he is a damn good player.

 

[Redball Express]

It seems as though we may be hamstrung this year as far as acquiring players in free agency. With that being said, Spencer is an interesting player (and as much as I have bashed Spencer) in that he is a guy who could probably help us on the cap this year.

My understanding of incentive laden deals are considered "likely to be earned" when the player's stats from the previous year meet or exceed the incentives in the contract. Because Spencer really didn't play essentially all year long, is would be very easy to sign him to a contract that the incentives would essentially be easily met, but not considered likely to be earned (pushing the incentive money into next year's cap).



That is something to keep in mind as we move forward.

That would be like Fantasy Football but for contracts.

Why would any player sign a contract like that if they didn't have to?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Is Spencer's injury healed?

There were reports it could be career ending.

 

[perrykemp]

Is Spencer's injury healed?

There were reports it could be career ending.

Didn't he have microfracture surgery? Those things are often career ending. I hope not for Spencer's sake.

 

[jrumann59]

Under the old CBA the incentives had to attainable based on career avg i believe so if a guys is a career 6 sacks a year guy putting a 12 sack incentive int he contract would be a no-no but if you put 8 sacks it would be allowed. Incentive deals are hard, I think the only ones that seem to work are playing time incentives and then those are grey areas like you cannot put 100% snap incentive you would have to do like 85% or something like that, since if the guy gets the wind knocked out of him he loses the 100% incentive.

 

[burmafrd]

I think they tightened that up in the new CBA. Seems like I heard they could not go more than 10-20% above his best year now. MIght be wrong on that but I seem to have heard something like that

 

[Verdict]

That would be the only way to even consider signing Spencer. There is a significant possibility that he can never play again.

I'm not advocating resigning Spencer. I was in the "let him go" camp for a couple of years. I am just saying signing a guy like Spencer to an incentive deal might get us a cheap cap hit this year and shift a majority of the salary cap impact into the following year. (Assuming we want him and he can actually play).