Indiana drops handwriting from school curriculum

[Hoofbite]

Why are they doing it?

Is there some crunch for time that needs to be addressed?

I don't understand what the problem is.

 

[Dodger]

And I never use algebra since high school maybe we should get rid of that as well.

Ridiculous comparison. Just because you don't learn cursive doesn't mean you can't write.

Look, I taught English and writing for quite some time, so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. You do not need to know cursive in order to write. Cursive is a waste of time, especially in an age where keyboard skills are FAR more important than knowing how to make pretty looking text.

What, exactly, is cursive necessary for, anyway? What will kids lose by not learning cursive? What tasks can you name me in which knowing how to write in cursive is essential for getting them done?

Writing your signature?

Okay, fine. Students can learn that "skill" at the time they begin signing their signatures which would be when? Right before 6th grade maybe at which point they can probably pick up cursive in 10 minutes.

What this school system is doing is the right thing to do, IMO.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ridiculous comparison. Just because you don't learn cursive doesn't mean you can't write.

Look, I taught English and writing for quite some time, so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. You do not need to know cursive in order to write. Cursive is a waste of time, especially in an age where keyboard skills are FAR more important than knowing how to make pretty looking text.

What, exactly, is cursive necessary for, anyway? What will kids lose by not learning cursive? What tasks can you name me in which knowing how to write in cursive is essential for getting them done?

Writing your signature?

Okay, fine. Students can learn that "skill" at the time they begin signing their signatures which would be when? Right before 6th grade maybe at which point they can probably pick up cursive in 10 minutes.

What this school system is doing is the right thing to do, IMO.

and because you drop algebra does not mean you would not have math skills so no I don't think it is ridicules. You have an opinion different than mine and I'm ok with it but I do see this as another example of the educational system dropping the ball. This is a 1st grade subject yet we will take the time to talk about gay life style and that is ok.

Simple to see why many parents are fed up with these idiots running the schools.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

So we'll have a future generation of kids printing their names on checks, legal documents, tax returns, and birthday cards? ********. Why not just "make your mark" like an illiterate hillbilly (no offense, BP ).

I have a doctor's type signature so no offense.

 

[Dodger]

and because you drop algebra does not mean you would not have math skills so no I don't think it is ridicules. You have an opinion different than mine and I'm ok with it but I do see this as another example of the educational system dropping the ball. This is a 1st grade subject yet we will take the time to talk about gay life style and that is ok.

Simple to see why many parents are fed up with these idiots running the schools.

Okay. I respect your opinion on the matter. I don't agree with it, obviously, but I understand your point of view.

 

[TheCount]

and because you drop algebra does not mean you would not have math skills so no I don't think it is ridicules. You have an opinion different than mine and I'm ok with it but I do see this as another example of the educational system dropping the ball. This is a 1st grade subject yet we will take the time to talk about gay life style and that is ok.

Simple to see why many parents are fed up with these idiots running the schools.

I think you're desperately clinging to your original claim when you could just as simply make your statement using real world circumstances, personally.

"Cursive" is not a subject and not teaching "cursive" alone, does not make anyone an idiot.

Algebra and "cursive" have absolutely nothing in common. You are equating a hand skill to a cognition skill, cursive doesn't teach you problem solving, it doesn't teach you organization or time management, it doesn't teach you vocabulary, grammar or spelling.

The only thing it teaches you is how to write in cursive.

The problems the education system is facing in America are notable and very real, you simply picked the wrong platform on this occasion to make that point and I think you know that, you simply don't want to admit it.

As to your "gay lifestyle" comment, it's just further proof you desperately want to make a series of statements that have nothing to do with cursive as a skill. You're well on your way to getting a relatively innocuous thread closed due to political talk.

 

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[Doomsday101]

I think you're desperately clinging to your original claim when you could just as simply make your statement using real world circumstances, personally.

"Cursive" is not a subject and not teaching "cursive" alone, does not make anyone an idiot.

Algebra and "cursive" have absolutely nothing in common. You are equating a hand skill to a cognition skill, cursive doesn't teach you problem solving, it doesn't teach you organization or time management, it doesn't teach you vocabulary, grammar or spelling.

The only thing it teaches you is how to write in cursive.

The problems the education system is facing in America are notable and very real, you simply picked the wrong platform on this occasion to make that point and I think you know that, you simply don't want to admit it.

There are many subject that are taught that none of us will use after we are out of school so to act as if well since I don't do it we don't need it is foolish.

I'm not admitting being wrong because I don't feel like I am. Your entitled to you view and I am entitled to mine but this mind set that I see in the schools why it has become a joke.

As for the teaching of gay life style that is not clinging that is a waste of time and something that does not belong in the school.

 

[TheCount]

There are many subject that are taught that none of us will use after we are out of school so to act as if well since I don't do it we don't need it is foolish.

I'm not admitting being wrong because I don't feel like I am. Your entitled to you view and I am entitled to mine but this mind set that I see in the schools why it has become a joke.

As for the teaching of gay life style that is not clinging that is a waste of time and something that does not belong in the school.

So you believe cursive is a subject. You went to school and were taught English, Mathematics, History, Science, Geography, Art and Cursive?

 

[Dodger]

Someone please enlighten me about why learning how to write in cursive is necessary.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Someone please enlighten me about why learning how to write in cursive is necessary.

Probably just another unnecessary tradition handed down from generation to generation.

 

[Doomsday101]

So you believe cursive is a subject. You went to school and were taught English, Mathematics, History, Science, Geography, Art and Cursive?

It is a basic skill. And there are educators out there who do agree with my view point and feel it is a mistake so you can stop with the attitude that your view is the only view.

To see a kid fill out a job application and it looks like a 3rd grader filled it out does not look good in the eyes of many who may or may not hire a person.

The more well rounded a kid is coming out of school the better off they will be even something as simple as being able to legibly write your name .

Funny at one time people were told if you are unable to properly write your name just print it or make your mark. To me this is a step backwards.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Someone please enlighten me about why learning how to write in cursive is necessary.

Because it ensures that the education system does not fall apart? :

On a serious note...it really is not needed.

I think it is basically something that is barely used anymore for communication.

Some may joke about certain types of math but it writing is much different.

How many times do we write or receive a letter in cursive now. Years ago it was quite common to write a letter to a friend, family or loved one by cursive. Now it seems pretty rare.

Think about it.

How often do you actually read or write a letter in cursive now. I really don't recall the last time I have gotten or sent one.

Now everyone talks on the phone, send emails or text. You don't fill out most working reports in cursive. You don't read manuals or instructions in cursive.

It is basically not used much at all now days.

I think ranting some about this and trying to pass it off as just another problem with the education system. To which I will say the education system has a great deal of problems...getting rid of cursive writing is just not one of them.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It is a basic skill. And there are educators out there who do agree with my view point and feel it is a mistake so you can stop with the attitude that your view is the only view.

To see a kid fill out a job application and it looks like a 3rd grader filled it out does not look good in the eyes of many who may or may not hire a person.

The more well rounded a kid is coming out of school the better off they will be even something as simple as being able to legibly write your name .

Funny at one time people were told if you are unable to properly write your name just print it or make your mark. To me this is a step backwards.

How many people fill out a resume in cursive now days? Seriously

Heck I think most resumes even say to PRINT (as in name).

The only part you might do is write your name in cursive.

You can still write your name and other things in Print.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Holy crap, just tried to write in cursive and i forgot how to! I always write in all caps.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

This brings back memories. In my private school, I was taught D'Nealian handwriting as a prelude to learning cursive.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

This brings back memories. In my private school, I was taught Klingon handwriting as a prelude to learning cursive.

FTFY:

 

[joseephuss]

This frees up Indiana to start teaching children on how to write Han characters, which will be extremely useful in the future.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

FTFY:

I own both editions of the Human/Klingon dictionary written by Michael Okuda. Ha!

Regarding the issue at hand, I think schools spend an inordinate amount of time teaching worthless curriculum that fails to prepare children to succeed in the workforce.

According to an article I was reading, there's a plethora of construction and building jobs available in the US; however, because our schools emphasize higher education and socialization skills and tend to look down on jobs that require physical labor--even the high paying ones, such as plumbing--very few people in the US are qualified to do them.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I own both editions of the Human/Klingon dictionary written by Michael Okuda. Ha!

Regarding the issue at hand, I think schools spend an inordinate amount of time teaching worthless curriculum that fails to prepare children to succeed in the workforce.

According to an article I was reading, there's a plethora of construction and building jobs available in the US; however, because our schools emphasize higher education and socialization skills and tend to look down on jobs that require physical labor--even the high paying ones, such as plumbing--very few people in the US are qualified to do them.

Don't know how it is today (since it is over 20 years since HS) but back then they had shop class and they also had the option of going to vocational schools for certain job trade skills in your Junior and Senior years.

Probably has changed a great deal since that time.

I was talking with someone about this topic a year or so back. It is almost impossible to find a TV or washer/dryer repair man now that does not work for a large company. Back in the day you had plenty of people who did that in our area...now you are lucky to find one and they are pretty old and semi retired. Seems like a lost area that would help fill a need.