Injuries like Pollard's

[jterrell]

Tua Tagovailoa had the same injury and same surgery in college.

He played a game 28 days after surgery...

I would simply not use Tua in an example about anything injury related.....
Too much graphic video of him playing while concussed.

But in most tightrope surgeries there is no fracture to contend with or to allow to heal.

Tony Pollard's timeline has been widely publicized.

Pollard underwent a tightrope procedure Monday to address the left high-ankle sprain he sustained during Sunday's 19-12 loss to the 49ers in the divisional round of the playoffs, Todd Archer of ESPN.com reports.

Pollard also sustained a broken left fibula Sunday, but Archer notes that the running back didn't need surgery to address that injury, which will be able to heal on its own. Pollard should be back to full strength well before training camp in late July, as his recovery from the ankle procedure is expected to last around 3-4 months. The rough timeline means that Pollard may not be able to participate in OTAs, but the Cowboys' main focus will likely be in ensuring that the running back is under contract by that time. The 25-year-old is ticketed for unrestricted free agency in March, but the Cowboys will have the ability to place their franchise tag on him or sign him to an extension before he reaches the open market.

 

[rambo2]

not hating on the guy just bringing in facts just in case some fans weren't paying attention.

i mean the final 4 RS game and 2 playoff games ZERO Tds..that's an eye opener and coupled with 3.8YPC id say he lost that explosive playmaking ability to end the season.. hes also only has 17 career tds in 4 seasons, zeke had 12 last year alone. seems to me the OL and run scheme were more the issue than any player one could signal out. we have got to get more physical in the run game up front,. once steele went out and we stated moving the OL around to cover injuries, we became one dimensional. it as easy for the D to stop the run and pay coverage and get to Dak with a basic front. both 9er losses IMO more on the OL and lack of run game or physicality up front.

Pollard would score from the one yardline just like Zeke.

 

[blueblood70]

Pollard would score from the one yardline just like Zeke.

no he didn't many occasions couldn't get the tough yard.,,.sorry we saw it,..good try though. TP is not a good between the tackle or tough runner most games. Nice trying to make that fact when its not..

 

[rambo2]

no he didn't many occasions couldn't get the tough yard.,,.sorry we saw it,..good try though. TP is not a good between the tackle or tough runner most games. Nice trying to make that fact when its not..

He certainly has the ability to score from the one. In fact he can score from anywhere on the field.

 

[blueblood70]

He certainly has the ability to score from the one. In fact he can score from anywhere on the field.

you must not be able to comprehend facts, he lost his burst, speed, and effectiveness the last 6 games 3.8 is no longer special , 51 YPG, and no tds for many of those games. facts are the more he was used the less that special speed and burst was found.

i mean the final 4 RS game and 2 playoff games ZERO Tds..that's an eye opener and coupled with 3.8YPC id say he lost that explosive playmaking ability to end the season. hes also only has 17 career tds in 4 seasons, zeke had 12 last year alone. seems to me the OL and run scheme were more the issue than any player one could signal out. we have got to get more physical in the run game up front,. once Steele went out and we stated moving the OL around to cover injuries, we became one dimensional. it as easy for the D to stop the run and pay coverage and get to Dak with a basic front. both 9er losses IMO more on the OL and lack of run game or physicality up front..

 

[KJJ]

You can’t compare a QB having this injury with an RB. Pollard’s entire game relies on burst, quickness and speed.

 

[xwalker]

I would simply not use Tua in an example about anything injury related.....
Too much graphic video of him playing while concussed.

But in most tightrope surgeries there is no fracture to contend with or to allow to heal.

Tony Pollard's timeline has been widely publicized.

Pollard underwent a tightrope procedure Monday to address the left high-ankle sprain he sustained during Sunday's 19-12 loss to the 49ers in the divisional round of the playoffs, Todd Archer of ESPN.com reports.

Pollard also sustained a broken left fibula Sunday, but Archer notes that the running back didn't need surgery to address that injury, which will be able to heal on its own. Pollard should be back to full strength well before training camp in late July, as his recovery from the ankle procedure is expected to last around 3-4 months. The rough timeline means that Pollard may not be able to participate in OTAs, but the Cowboys' main focus will likely be in ensuring that the running back is under contract by that time. The 25-year-old is ticketed for unrestricted free agency in March, but the Cowboys will have the ability to place their franchise tag on him or sign him to an extension before he reaches the open market.

All reports reference the original Todd Archer report. No surgery for a break would generally mean a hairline fracture.

Jerry said no break, only ligaments. It's possible that he meant non-displacement break (hairline fracture).

A hairline fracture in the fibia (smaller of the 2 bones) is a non-issue that would heal well before the ligaments.

I've had both (in separate incidents) a hairline fracture of the fibia and a displacement break of the tibula.
- One was trivial and the other was an extreme injury.

 

[tm1119]

28 days probably isn’t a realistic. But the 5+ months he has to recover is more than enough time to be 100%. I don’t see how it would be a career altering injury unless there’s something we don’t know.

With that said, I’m against paying a RB $10 million regardless of injuries

 

[xwalker]

28 days probably isn’t a realistic. But the 5+ months he has to recover is more than enough time to be 100%. I don’t see how it would be a career altering injury unless there’s something we don’t know.

With that said, I’m against paying a RB $10 million regardless of injuries

You have these choices:

1: Cut Zeke. Franchise Pollard & draft a RB in rounds 2 to 4. Maybe another one late. Pollard not re-signed in 2024.
2: Let Pollard leave. They probably keep Zeke with a paycut. They draft a RB in the first even if the top DL/WR/CB/OL/LB on their board falls to #26.
3: They sign Pollard to a multi-year contract. Less per year than the tag but more than 10M guaranteed.

 

[tm1119]

You have these choices:

1: Cut Zeke. Franchise Pollard & draft a RB in rounds 2 to 4. Maybe another one late. Pollard not re-signed in 2024.
2: Let Pollard leave. They probably keep Zeke with a paycut. They draft a RB in the first even if the top DL/WR/CB/OL/LB on their board falls to #26.
3: They sign Pollard to a multi-year contract. Less per year than the tag but more than 10M guaranteed.

Option 4- Cut Zeke and let Pollard walk. Sign another vet RB (Singeltary/Harris/Hunt/Montgomery) and draft a RB in the 3rd.

That costs about $7/8M for the 2 players and still gives us a very strong backfield

 

[jterrell]

All reports reference the original Todd Archer report. No surgery for a break would generally mean a hairline fracture.

Jerry said no break, only ligaments. It's possible that he meant non-displacement break (hairline fracture).

A hairline fracture in the fibia (smaller of the 2 bones) is a non-issue that would heal well before the ligaments.

I've had both (in separate incidents) a hairline fracture of the fibia and a displacement break of the tibula.
- One was trivial and the other was an extreme injury.

Absolutely. Injhuries can be called the same thing and have the same procedure but vary different timelines.
As of now we've only had 2 timelines reported. 3-4 month recovery and back before camp.

Both of those would impact the off-season for TP.

Beyond even that the Cowboys history with Francise Tags is pretty much basura.

The Cowboys seem to take a wholistic, 5 year approach to team building, except when it comes to these franchise tags....
Very inconsistent with how they do business and maddening.

Tag of Anthony Spencer was bad. He made 9M in 2012 and had a great year so they tagged him again at 11M in 2013 and he played in 1 game. They paid 20M over 2 years and Spencer was done.
Tag of DLaw was bad. --eat large cap hit impacting other cap space. price went wayy up and you are locked into deal longer because you didn't land it earlier.
Tag of Dak was atrocious. --price went wayy up and you are locked into bad deal that was short because Dak wanted to get back to the table in 4 years since Stephen hosed him up front.
Tag of Schultz looks bad. --Paid franchise number for a guy who ended up with 10/11th most catches/yards and get zero future benefit other than saying yup your market value is 8+M per year because we just paid that.

 

[FaSho]

I'm, apparently, one of the few that want him to stick around. I'm sure he will bounce back just fine. Pair him with a new face in the backfield and let's do some running.

With you on this one. Did people not watch him last season?

 

[jgboys1]

Tua's fibula didn't also fracture (Pollard's did) and broken bones don't heal in 28 days, so it wasn't exactly the same injury. Tua's also not a RB whose greatest assets are speed and quickness, who is now looking for a contract before we can see if he's lost any of it.

I'm not a fan of paying RBs a second contract, especially one coming off an injury to one of his wheels. I'd get younger and cheaper at the RB position, but I'm pretty sure the Jones boys continue to put too much money into that position because they like their guys.

This has been our biggest problems over the past 20 plus years. I really think the Cowboys are going to take a big step backwards this coming season.

 

[conner01]

Not sure why you are so certain tony can "change the game". His stats...show a tail off late season. Likely for several reasons but it's there nonetheless.

If we make him #1, instead of the "change of pace back" (I EXPECT that position to be very productive)...can he "carry the load". Can he be productive and "change the game" as the main target of the defense?

We would hope...YES! But he hasn't done it ....ever. Now he has the injury...recovering/rehab instead of training.

Pollard is not a guy you pound between the tackles 20 times a game. But if you use him like CMC is used he’s a game changer for sure
CMC avg 14 carries a game but he got touches in the passing game that gets him the ball in space. If we used pollard exactly how CMc is used you’d get similar production
Draft a guy in the middle rounds to pound between the tackles. And use pollard as an extension of the pass game like teams use short passes as an extension of the run game
Quinn has done a great job with the D by using guys at what they do best. We need that on the offense. Lamb is more productive when he’s moved around and in motion at the snap. Use him that way all the time and use another WR to line up to run up the sideline. Use guys to their strength not your scheme

 

[conner01]

With you on this one. Did people not watch him last season?

He had a good season considering we didn’t use him to his strength. I’d watch how SF uses CMC and that’s how I’d use pollard

 

[thunderpimp91]

The Cowboys seem to take a wholistic, 5 year approach to team building, except when it comes to these franchise tags....
Very inconsistent with how they do business and maddening.

Tag of Anthony Spencer was bad. He made 9M in 2012 and had a great year so they tagged him again at 11M in 2013 and he played in 1 game. They paid 20M over 2 years and Spencer was done.
Tag of DLaw was bad. --eat large cap hit impacting other cap space. price went wayy up and you are locked into deal longer because you didn't land it earlier.
Tag of Dak was atrocious. --price went wayy up and you are locked into bad deal that was short because Dak wanted to get back to the table in 4 years since Stephen hosed him up front.
Tag of Schultz looks bad. --Paid franchise number for a guy who ended up with 10/11th most catches/yards and get zero future benefit other than saying yup your market value is 8+M per year because we just paid that.

Fair points here, but really when you look back at it I'm not sure they used the tag poorly.....at least most of the time. Spencer that was probably the right move. Solid player, but not worth a long term deal. DLaw I forget the circumstances around so no comment. Dak was a bad move, but I get the feeling the Cowboys hadn't actually made up their minds on how good he was at that point. The Schultz tag I think was fine too. Again you have a guy who you'd like to keep, but I'm not sure it makes sense to pay him top TE money over a 3-4 year deal. Same situation with Pollard. I dont love the idea of locking him up for 3+ years, so the tag seems like the best option in the long run so you can find a reliable replacement instead of praying you hit in the draft.

Overall though I think the tags have been fine. Really the 1 year tags dont kill your cap, especially if we are talking about a TE/RB. The issues are the guys you do intend to lock up longer like the Dak situation because as you mentioned the price only goes up and up every year, which for a QB can be significant.

 

[Lodeus]

I'm, apparently, one of the few that want him to stick around. I'm sure he will bounce back just fine. Pair him with a new face in the backfield and let's do some running.

It makes no sense to let tp walk and be stuck with zeke and unproven players. Dude was probably our second best weapon last year.

 

[charron]

We are about to hear all the excuses of why he no longer runs like he used to so get ready.

 

[Bullflop]

Our FO isn't concerned with the idea that Pollard may not be as good -- it's more like the idea that he'll be cheaper to re-sign!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Pollard is not a guy you pound between the tackles 20 times a game. But if you use him like CMC is used he’s a game changer for sure
CMC avg 14 carries a game but he got touches in the passing game that gets him the ball in space. If we used pollard exactly how CMc is used you’d get similar production
Draft a guy in the middle rounds to pound between the tackles. And use pollard as an extension of the pass game like teams use short passes as an extension of the run game
Quinn has done a great job with the D by using guys at what they do best. We need that on the offense. Lamb is more productive when he’s moved around and in motion at the snap. Use him that way all the time and use another WR to line up to run up the sideline. Use guys to their strength not your scheme

Totally agree.