Interesting acquisition - Curtis Johnson

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Draft analysis 2008 -

Curtis Johnson is a player that most people do not know. The senior from Clark Atlanta’s name cannot be said to be on the tips of many people’s tongues, and he might be the best kept secret of this draft. Before going to the Division II school, Johnson attended two years of JUCO, where he played very well. He has that first step that will burn you, and the second step that will kill you.

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Overview - One of the best-kept secrets in college football entering his senior campaign, the well-traveled rush end opened more than a few eyes in the scouting circles with his stellar performance in postseason action and a dominating 2007 final campaign.

With his quickness off the edge and ability to fly to the ball, Johnson could be in for another "change of scenery" in the NFL, with a possible move to outside linebacker


Analysis Positives: Has a rare-sized frame with room to carry more bulk...Has an athletic physique, good muscle definition in his arms and legs, firm midsection, good bubble, low body fat and thick thighs and calves...Type of player whose short-area burst off the line needs to be accounted for on every snap...Will play with bumps and bruises and is willing to handle whatever the coaches ask from him...Has very good agility closing on the ball (stays lower in his pads vs. plays in front of him than when having to cover vs. the pass)...Nice guy off the field, but his personality quickly changes on the field (plays with total aggression)...Self-motivated type with good balance and foot speed closing on outside running plays...Has a violent hand punch that will generally see him gain advantage over a lethargic blocker...True warrior that coaches won't have to worry about motivating him...When he locates the ball, he closes in a hurry and does a good job of squaring up before taking on the isolated blocker (not stout to split double teams working inside, but still shows willingness)...If he gets his hands on an opponent, he can stack blockers and getting off his man to redirect and fill the rush lanes...Maintains good separation when he extends his arms in combat and when he shoots his hands with force, he has good success in shedding...Gives excellent chase along the perimeter to cut off the runner and stays on his feet well, doing a nice job of stringing out plays...Alert enough to locate the tiny creases up front, doing a nice job of getting "skinny" to slip and avoid blocks when working inside...Even when he gets caught out of position, he shows urgency getting back into the play...Has good eyes to read the quarterback, timing his jumps to easily track the ball when on the move (has problems finding the ball in a crowd)...Even though he has a strong hand punch, he gets most of his success as a pass rusher when he avoids the bigger people blocking up front...Plays with good effort in pursuit and has a better angle concept vs. the run than when covering vs. the pass...Can clear his feet and run a long way to deliver a crunching tackle...Good open field striker who consistently stops the ballcarrier's forward progress, thanks mostly to strong arm swipes and above average hand usage...Does a better job shadowing tight ends and backs underneath than when dropping back into the zone...Has a quick burst to close on plays in front of him...Not a natural hands catcher going for the interception, but has good leaping ability and timing to compete for the jump balls...Most effective when running stunts because of his quickness, as he is dangerous whether rushing off the edge or bull rushing inside (only when he keeps his pads down)...Stays alive and squeezes the pocket well...Can generate good power on his initial surge and has developed a strong rip move to rock the blockers back on their heels...Does a nice job of protecting his feet on the move...Has great timing as a gunner on special teams, adding more value to his resume with his pedigree on these units.

Negatives: For a down lineman, he lacks ideal bulk and strength to play at the point at the next level, as bigger blockers will have success bouncing and pushing him around, especially when working in-line...Has good quickness coming off the edge, but has just decent timed playing speed...Instinctive player, but has had some academic issues and needs several reps to retain (might not be able to digest a complicated playbook, especially if it will be at multiple positions)...As a down lineman, he needs to generate a better hand punch and usage (gets his hands outside his frame at times, letting blockers lock on and wash him off the ball)...Works down the line, but must be more alert to blocking schemes, as he will get hooked on occasion...More of a speed rusher when playing with his hand down, but does not have the anchor to hold ground vs. double teams...More of a collision-type tackler, but did show improvement with his technique as a senior, keeping his pad level down to wrap up and secure...Better attacking the backfield coming off the edge, as he doesn't have the raw power to get a good push when playing the blocker head-up...Quick to locate the ball on the move, but will sometimes lose sight of the pigskin when working through trash...Shows good hip wiggle and lateral range, but must work on smoothing out his backpedal and staying lower in his pads, as he gets too tall in his stance, causing him to cross over with his feet, taking false steps in transition (showed a penchant for getting up on his heels in his pedal, looking awkward trying to come out of his breaks cleany)....Will need time to get comfortable playing with his back to the ball covering receivers on their routes, if he shifts to linebacker...Still a work in progress understanding taking proper angles and driving for depth in his pass drops.

Compares To: JOEY PORTER-Miami...When Porter converted from college defensive end to pro linebacker, he was raw in his first few years before the light clicked upstairs. Johnson is not as instinctive as Porter in locating the ball and will need to totally revamp his pass drop and coverage skills, but he has a violent hand punch to overpower big blockers and a good burst off the edge to be a superb edge rusher. His strong hands have seen him have good success dislodging ballcarriers from the ball. With his ability to wreak havoc in the backfield, he will bring instant value in pass-rushing situations. He is also a very capable coverage defender on special teams. The big thing here will be getting Johnson a patient coach. Doing so could unearth a Pro Bowler before long. He was tried at both inside and outside linebacker in postseason all-star action and held up very well on the edge. The mental aspect of playing inside will be too much for him to grasp at this early stage of his possible shift to a stand-up defender from one with his hand on the ground. Look for Johnson to become the first noteworthy CAU product since former NFL fullback Chuck Evans (1993-2000), who was drafted in the 11th round in 1992.














If you read the bolded portions and consider that the Colts drafted him as and kept him as a DE, you might come to the conclusion that the Cowboy's have signed a pretty good find for OLB. As a pure pass rusher, he could defintely be a good acquisition.
 

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Isn't he injured?

I'm assuming he won't play against the Vikings so do we think enough of him to just give him a roster spot or what.
 

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For the guys who like Octavien, you are going to LOVE Curtis Johnson. The kid was all over the field when Indy played the Titans last preseason. Big time STer too.


He actually is bigger than he was last year (gained 15 lbs of muscle in offseason).
 

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ArmyCowboy;2918360 said:
Isn't he injured?

I'm assuming he won't play against the Vikings so do we think enough of him to just give him a roster spot or what.

They may try and get him on the PS if they like what they saw during 2008 workouts.
 

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Wade sounded like he liked him in the press conference. Said they liked him in the draft but thought he was maybe too much of a projection to spend a pick on him. But they thought from the tape that he'd developed well, and weighed in at 254 today.

BTW, someone (Eatman I think) asked about if they knew he was hurt and Wade said, "Well, he was waived injured, so that was the first clue." :D

I wouldn't be surprised if they find a spot for him somehow.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2918504 said:
Wade sounded like he liked him in the press conference. Said they liked him in the draft but thought he was maybe too much of a projection to spend a pick on him. But they thought from the tape that he'd developed well, and weighed in at 254 today.

BTW, someone (Eatman I think) asked about if they knew he was hurt and Wade said, "Well, he was waived injured, so that was the first clue." :D

I wouldn't be surprised if they find a spot for him somehow.

On the 53 man roster?
 

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BAT;2918375 said:
For the guys who like Octavien, you are going to LOVE Curtis Johnson. The kid was all over the field when Indy played the Titans last preseason. Big time STer too.


He actually is bigger than he was last year (gained 15 lbs of muscle in offseason).

Why'd the Colts cut him?
 

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SLATEmosphere;2918508 said:
On the 53 man roster?

Yeah. It sounded like they were pretty high on him. I forgot to mention Decamillis really liked him on special teams, too.

Maybe if Hodge has to be IR'd, this is a guy they keep instead? Or maybe he's in competition with Octavien? I could almost see if they thought Butler wasn't big enough for the strongside and they moved him back to backing up Ware and this guy to the strongside.

I didn't say I expected it, though. :D It'll be hard with so many other injured guys. But I wouldn't be that surprised, either.
 

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We should have signed UDFA OLB Jamal Westerman. He played half a season w/ a torn bicep tendon and is a natural in the 3-4.

Our east coast scouts suck
 

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Chocolate Lab;2918513 said:
Yeah. It sounded like they were pretty high on him. I forgot to mention Decamillis really liked him on special teams, too.

Maybe if Hodge has to be IR'd, this is a guy they keep instead? Or maybe he's in competition with Octavien? I could almost see if they thought Butler wasn't big enough for the strongside and they moved him back to backing up Ware and this guy to the strongside.

I didn't say I expected it, though. :D It'll be hard with so many other injured guys. But I wouldn't be that surprised, either.

Well I know nothing about him other than what I'm reading on here. Anyone have video on him? I think Hodge should be put on IR. Let him heal properly.
 

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Big Dakota;2918509 said:
Why'd the Colts cut him?

Probably cause the play a 4-3 and he would have had to play down, which is where a lot of his weaknesses are, apparently. I doubt when he played for the colts he faced good competition and maybe they liked their depth there already.... or maybe he spit in someone's food and stole their luggage.
 

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Big Dakota;2918509 said:
Why'd the Colts cut him?

Coyer likes his DL to be a lot bigger than Dungy, the Colts are deep at DE, and Johnson is injured (strained hammy).


Johnson no longer fits the scheme. Coyer will be blitzing his LBs (which Dungy almost never did), so the front 4 can concentrate on stopping the run more, in addition to rushing the passer.
 

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The more I read about this guy, the more pumped I get. He really seems to have some talent, and should fit this scheme much better than a 43. And I have no doubt how intense he'll be... The guys we picked up at the end of last year for special teams like Battle and Octavien both loved to hit, so this guy should be the same.

Next year we could finally -- finally -- have some really good depth at OLB with Ware, Spencer, Butler and Williams (both hitting the weight room all spring and summer) plus this guy.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2918836 said:
The more I read about this guy, the more pumped I get. He really seems to have some talent, and should fit this scheme much better than a 43. And I have no doubt how intense he'll be... The guys we picked up at the end of last year for special teams like Battle and Octavien both loved to hit, so this guy should be the same.

Next year we could finally -- finally -- have some really good depth at OLB with Ware, Spencer, Butler and Williams (both hitting the weight room all spring and summer) plus this guy.

You and me both C-Lab! Actually, for a small school kid, I am surprised at how many know about him. I almost lost it 2 drafts ago when Wade picked Walden over this kid at the end of the 2nd day. At least Wade was aware of him and kept an eye on him, I am thankful that he progressed and ended up with the Cowboys anyway.

Another project OLB I loved was Antwan Barnes, if the Ravens should let him go, we need to jump all over that guy.
 

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BAT;2918886 said:
You and me both C-Lab! Actually, for a small school kid, I am surprised at how many know about him. I almost lost it 2 drafts ago when Wade picked Walden over this kid at the end of the 2nd day. At least Wade was aware of him and kept an eye on him, I am thankful that he progressed and ended up with the Cowboys anyway.

Another project OLB I loved was Antwan Barnes, if the Ravens should let him go, we need to jump all over that guy.

same here
 

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After the draft of '09 I will be skeptical anytime I hear the Cowboys didn't draft someone because he was "too much of a project." More appropriately, someone had a pet that was on the board they wanted instead.
 
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