Interesting contrast between Dallas and New England

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If you watched the Patriots last night, you saw an offense that dictated personnel advantages by its magnificent use of the play clock. The Patriots were able to keep Miami's defensive groupings on the field when its own offense had a favorable match-up. And since the Patriots can snap the ball at almost any point in the play clock, the pass rushers are unable to time the snap to get a jump.

Contrast this with the Cowboys' offense, which winds the play clock to zero on almost all snaps. This gives the defense ample time to substitute and line up correctly, and it means the pass rushers know exactly when to time their jump. The latter is huge since the average pass rusher is more athletic than the average offensive lineman.

This is an area that has been a big problem for us in recent years, and it's so easy to fix. I think we'd see improved offense by just varying when we snap the ball.
 
No doubt that it is something we've got to work on but it's been going on for years.


If I were a defender I would love playing the Cowboys because you can time your jump when the ball is snapped like it's nothing.

It takes away a big advantage for the O-line.
 
wick;4109064 said:
If you watched the Patriots last night, you saw an offense that dictated personnel advantages by its magnificent use of the play clock. The Patriots were able to keep Miami's defensive groupings on the field when its own offense had a favorable match-up. And since the Patriots can snap the ball at almost any point in the play clock, the pass rushers are unable to time the snap to get a jump.

Contrast this with the Cowboys' offense, which winds the play clock to zero on almost all snaps. This gives the defense ample time to substitute and line up correctly, and it means the pass rushers know exactly when to time their jump. The latter is huge since the average pass rusher is more athletic than the average offensive lineman.

This is an area that has been a big problem for us in recent years, and it's so easy to fix. I think we'd see improved offense by just varying when we snap the ball.

:laugh2:

The last time the Pats played the Jets they lost.
 
wick;4109064 said:
If you watched the Patriots last night, you saw an offense that dictated personnel advantages by its magnificent use of the play clock. The Patriots were able to keep Miami's defensive groupings on the field when its own offense had a favorable match-up. And since the Patriots can snap the ball at almost any point in the play clock, the pass rushers are unable to time the snap to get a jump.

Contrast this with the Cowboys' offense, which winds the play clock to zero on almost all snaps. This gives the defense ample time to substitute and line up correctly, and it means the pass rushers know exactly when to time their jump. The latter is huge since the average pass rusher is more athletic than the average offensive lineman.

This is an area that has been a big problem for us in recent years, and it's so easy to fix. I think we'd see improved offense by just varying when we snap the ball.

Cowboys vs Jets and Pats vs Dolphins is an Apples to Oranges comparison. You can't compare the two and actually make a logical deduction that would apply. The matchups are a completely different beast.

Go look at the Pats vs Jets last year in the playoffs. Brady was sacked four times, fumbled, threw an INT, and forced to throw the ball 46 times and posted a sub 90 QB rating. The Pats lost that game btw. Compare that to Romo last night who was also sacked 4 times, fumbled, threw an INT, yet posted a 101 QB rating anyway.

Romo was far more impressive than Brady. So much so that apparently, even the ever-hater Marshall Faulk said Romo played well.
 
wick;4109064 said:
If you watched the Patriots last night, you saw an offense that dictated personnel advantages by its magnificent use of the play clock. The Patriots were able to keep Miami's defensive groupings on the field when its own offense had a favorable match-up. And sinceP Jatriots can snap the ball at almost any point in the play clock, the pass rushers are unable to time the snap to get a jump.

Contrast this with the Cowboys' offense, which winds the play clock to zero on almost all snaps. This gives the defense ample time to substitute and line up correctly, and it means the pass rushers know exactly when to time their jump. The latter is huge since the average pass rusher is more athletic than the average offensive lineman.

This is an area that has been a big problem for us in recent years, and it's so easy to fix. I think we'd see improved offense by just varying when we snap the ball.

It was the frickin Dolphins!!!! Pats weren't playing the Jets. Lately the perfectly executing Pats lose to those same Jets if you keep up with recent history.
 
During the game I did wonder why we didn't go to hurry up when it was obvious that Revis was matching up more on Dez. I think in hurry up we would have been able to exploit the matchups that Miles and Witten were getting...
 
Last time the Pats played the Jets Brady looked confused and threw picks and fumbled the ball.

Jets do that to good and great QB's
 
JakeCamp12;4109130 said:
During the game I did wonder why we didn't go to hurry up when it was obvious that Revis was matching up more on Dez. I think in hurry up we would have been able to exploit the matchups that Miles and Witten were getting...

I would love to see us run the hurry up. We have the perfect ingredients to do it but we just never do.

Maybe Garrett is scared Romo will freak out under the fast pace and make a bad decision.
 
This is something I think we can improve. I'm actually surprised it hasn't been one of Garrett's hot buttons.
 
CATCH17;4109137 said:
I would love to see us run the hurry up. We have the perfect ingredients to do it but we just never do.

Maybe Garrett is scared Romo will freak out under the fast pace and make a bad decision.

Too bad we can't play the Fins 16 games in a row. :rolleyes:
 
zrinkill;4109119 said:
:laugh2:

The last time the Pats played the Jets they lost.


and the Pats last year were considered a rebuilding year and yet won 14 games and made the playoffs, Dallas were suppose to be a Superbowl team and went 6-10...The Pats are by far, a better coached team
 
Sam I Am;4109124 said:
Cowboys vs Jets and Pats vs Dolphins is an Apples to Oranges comparison. You can't compare the two and actually make a logical deduction that would apply. The matchups are a completely different beast.

Go look at the Pats vs Jets last year in the playoffs. Brady was sacked four times, fumbled, threw an INT, and forced to throw the ball 46 times and posted a sub 90 QB rating. The Pats lost that game btw. Compare that to Romo last night who was also sacked 4 times, fumbled, threw an INT, yet posted a 101 QB rating anyway.

Romo was far more impressive than Brady. So much so that apparently, even the ever-hater Marshall Faulk said Romo played well.


And can anyone say that we have a more talented team then the Pats do?
Yet we had the Jets on the ropes, in a game they wanted badly due to the timing, and the Pats in the playoffs got pretty much owned by this same team.

You get pressure on Brady and he folds like a cheap suit.
 
The Quest for Six;4109152 said:
and the Pats last year were considered a rebuilding year

Wow ..... did you make this up on the fly or have you been thinking about it for a while?
 
zrinkill;4109164 said:
Wow ..... did you make this up on the fly or have you been thinking about it for a while?

have to say he was smoking something; I have heard that from no one else.
 
The point of the OP is well taken, but...to be fair...Dallas' opponent was a Championship calliber team; the Patriots' opponent was a perrenial doormat. Much easier for a team to dictate favorable matchups against a perrenial doormat than a Championship calliber team.
 
Sam I Am;4109124 said:
Cowboys vs Jets and Pats vs Dolphins is an Apples to Oranges comparison. You can't compare the two and actually make a logical deduction that would apply. The matchups are a completely different beast.

Go look at the Pats vs Jets last year in the playoffs. Brady was sacked four times, fumbled, threw an INT, and forced to throw the ball 46 times and posted a sub 90 QB rating. The Pats lost that game btw. Compare that to Romo last night who was also sacked 4 times, fumbled, threw an INT, yet posted a 101 QB rating anyway.

Romo was far more impressive than Brady. So much so that apparently, even the ever-hater Marshall Faulk said Romo played well.

Yeah but you can't argue with the OP's premise, that it's better to snap the ball before 1 second left on the play clock.
 
This has nothing to do with the strength of the opponent and everything to do with the offensive philosophy of dictating personnel and timing advantages. Dallas chooses to forfeit this advantage by allowing the clock to run down to zero on every snap. New England capitalizes on this advantage.
 

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