Interesting rule overlooked last night...

[trickblue]

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

Ya know, I thought it to be a TD. The ball looked as if it crossed the goal line before his foot actually touched out of bounds.

 

[WV Cowboy]

What about when they called motion against Alexander ?

I thought a RB could move if he reset for a full count.

They blew the whistle and threw the flag before he could reset.

Just one of many calls that went against the Seahawks.

 

[Encore]

Another one would be. Men downfield.

On the long pass to Hines Ward when Big Ben scrambled around. I'm almost postive Offensive Lineman took off downfield to block for Ben it look like he might be running.

 

[5 Super Bowls]

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

I don't think that is accurate. Do you have a link?

 

[5 Super Bowls]

Never mind I found it.

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1354105.html

 

[Little Jr]

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

You are correct and the ball crossed the goal line as well. Should have been a TD. Very surprise that wasnt reviewed.

 

[sad_otter]

Never mind I found it.

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1354105.html

That seems to be Clayton's interpretation -- not the actual rule text. The only other relevant text I found was...

"A player who touches a pylon remains in-bounds until any part of his body touches the ground out-of-bounds"

...which could mean something different than what Clayton says.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

AdamJT just debunked Clayton's interpretation of this rule on the Seahawks' board.

I think I'll believe him over Poindexter.

 

[sad_otter]

AdamJT just debunked Clayton's interpretation of this rule on the Seahawks' board.

I think I'll believe him over Poindexter.

Yep, here is what looks to be a more accurate interpretation of the change from when it was passed:

"One rules change favoring offense is likely. A proposal from the competition committee would allow a pass receiver to touch the pylon above ground level provided he then gets both feet down inbounds. Under the current rule, a pass catcher who touches the pylon in the end zone with his foot before coming down in-bounds is ruled out of bounds."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/03/18/SP206702.DTL

 

[5 Super Bowls]

AdamJT just debunked Clayton's interpretation of this rule on the Seahawks' board.

I think I'll believe him over Poindexter.

Linky. Please

 

[Hostile]

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

I was telling my guests that his 2nd foot hitting the pylonwith the pylon considered in bounds meant it was a catch.

 

[AdamJT13]

The pylon is NOT considered inbounds -- in fact, the pylon sits entirely out of bounds. What the rule says (since being changed in 2002) is that a player who touches the pylon is not automatically considered out of bounds. You can touch the pylon and still be inbounds, but touching the pylon doesn't MAKE you inbounds -- especially on a catch before getting both feet down.

On this play, Jackson got one foot down, then kicked the pylon, then touched his second foot out of bounds. Kicking the pylon didn't make him out of bounds, but his second foot did.

And by the way, had he gotten both feet down, then kicked the pylon before his third step landed out of bounds, it wouldn't have been a touchdown unless the BALL crossed the plane of the goal line (either inbounds or out of bounds) before his foot landed out of bounds.

 

[5 Super Bowls]

The pylon is NOT considered inbounds -- in fact, the pylon sits entirely out of bounds. What the rule says (since being changed in 2002) is that a player who touches the pylon is not automatically considered out of bounds. You can touch the pylon and still be inbounds, but touching the pylon doesn't MAKE you inbounds -- especially on a catch before getting both feet down.

On this play, Jackson got one foot down, then kicked the pylon, then touched his second foot out of bounds. Kicking the pylon didn't make him out of bounds, but his second foot did.

And by the way, had he gotten both feet down, then kicked the pylon before his third step landed out of bounds, it wouldn't have been a touchdown unless the BALL crossed the plane of the goal line (either inbounds or out of bounds) before his foot landed out of bounds.

Thanks adam as usual. Is there a digital copy of the large version of the rule book, I would like to try and make myself a more informed fan. I can't seem to find one.

 

[djmajestik]

to touch the pylon above ground level

ABOVE GROUND LEVEL. Did they really need to state that? How many guys are trying to score from below ground level and hitting the pilon?

 

[Qwickdraw]

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

Is that to determine possesion of a pass caught or a TD crossing the plane where the player already has possesion?

 

[big dog cowboy]

The pylon is NOT considered inbounds -- in fact, the pylon sits entirely out of bounds. What the rule says (since being changed in 2002) is that a player who touches the pylon is not automatically considered out of bounds. You can touch the pylon and still be inbounds, but touching the pylon doesn't MAKE you inbounds -- especially on a catch before getting both feet down.

On this play, Jackson got one foot down, then kicked the pylon, then touched his second foot out of bounds. Kicking the pylon didn't make him out of bounds, but his second foot did.

And by the way, had he gotten both feet down, then kicked the pylon before his third step landed out of bounds, it wouldn't have been a touchdown unless the BALL crossed the plane of the goal line (either inbounds or out of bounds) before his foot landed out of bounds.

 

[hogwild]

alittle off-topic ; but does anybody remember the play
where Michael Vick went airborne out of bounds for a td
and all he had to do was get any part of his body over the pylon.
I had never heard of that before then.

 

[CF74]

Just more proof of this thievery, I need to stop reading these posts, I might get Un_Dude before long...

 

[Rack]

A player will be ruled in bounds if he touches the pylon at the goal line before going out of bounds. For example, a pass would be considered complete if one foot touches the pylon and the other foot is in bounds.

I didn't read ahead so someone probably already correct you, but ...

You still have to have two feet in bounds before the pylon rule comes into effect. You have to be established in bounds, then you can talk about pylons. That was not a TD catch. One of the few good calls by the refs in that game.