Interesting stat about roster turnover

[Parcells4Life]

The narrative in the NFL is that 40% of your roster turns over every year. The idea is that every 3 years you have mostly a brand new team except for 5-10 stars.

After watching tonight’s game I was wondering how many holdovers from the Garrett era are left and I came up with

QB: 2 (Dak, Rush)
RB: 2 (Zeke, Pollard)
TE: 2 (Jarwin, Schultz)
WR: 3 (Cooper, Gallup, Brown)
OL: 5 (Tyron, LC, Martin, Williams, McGovern)
DL: 4 (DLaw, Armstrong, Gregory, Hill)
LB: 2 (LVE, Jaylon)
DB: 4 (Lewis, Brown, Wilson, Goodwin)

That’s roughly 24 of the 53, give or take guys on IR, that are still here 2 years later. Next year we know the LBs are probably gone and so is Gallup and Williams. Who knows about Rush or other fringe guys like Brown and Lewis. But it seems like the majority of our 1-20 guys will still be here. Should there be more turnover on a roster that’s struggled so much?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I can’t imagine Jerry doesnt try to overhaul the whole backup QB situation next year. Draft a guy to mold, sign a vet like Fitzmagic.

Does Gregory come back if he doesn’t have a strong season? Does Hill?

 

[Zekeats]

I can’t imagine Jerry doesnt try to overhaul the whole backup QB situation next year. Draft a guy to mold, sign a vet like Fitzmagic.

Does Gregory come back if he doesn’t have a strong season? Does Hill?

Shouldve been this year with his starter coming off a serious season ending leg injury and then being sidelined all of preseason with a shoulder injury but well all just watch it bite us in the *** shortly. 2 steps behind always.

 

[Zman5]

JG was here almost 10 years as the HC. It’s going to take more than 2 seasons to turn the roster due to the cap implications.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I can’t imagine Jerry doesnt try to overhaul the whole backup QB situation next year. Draft a guy to mold, sign a vet like Fitzmagic.

Does Gregory come back if he doesn’t have a strong season? Does Hill?

I think Gregory will just because he would be cheap and we dont have alot of options there.

As far as the offseason Hill would probably be a yes too just because he is on a rookie deal. TC is a whole nother story He might get beat out in camp if we add to the position in the offseason. Hard to imagine him not behind Gallimore and Odighizuwa. Being the third 3T makes his spot anything but a lock, and he can only play 3T

 

[fivetwos]

The narrative in the NFL is that 40% of your roster turns over every year. The idea is that every 3 years you have mostly a brand new team except for 5-10 stars.

After watching tonight’s game I was wondering how many holdovers from the Garrett era are left and I came up with

QB: 2 (Dak, Rush)
RB: 2 (Zeke, Pollard)
TE: 2 (Jarwin, Schultz)
WR: 3 (Cooper, Gallup, Brown)
OL: 5 (Tyron, LC, Martin, Williams, McGovern)
DL: 4 (DLaw, Armstrong, Gregory, Hill)
LB: 2 (LVE, Jaylon)
DB: 4 (Lewis, Brown, Wilson, Goodwin)

That’s roughly 24 of the 53, give or take guys on IR, that are still here 2 years later. Next year we know the LBs are probably gone and so is Gallup and Williams. Who knows about Rush or other fringe guys like Brown and Lewis. But it seems like the majority of our 1-20 guys will still be here. Should there be more turnover on a roster that’s struggled so much?

Is it really that high? Not arguing against you but 4-5 draft picks, a UDFA or two, and 3 or 4 free agents sounds about right for average annual turnover.

That gets you to about half of 24.

To your point, it's a valid one....but I think it seems like he has been gone longer than he actually has.

Besides, you know our GM likes to error on the side of keeping players a year too long rather than the acclaimed opposite.

 

[Bobhaze]

The narrative in the NFL is that 40% of your roster turns over every year. The idea is that every 3 years you have mostly a brand new team except for 5-10 stars.

After watching tonight’s game I was wondering how many holdovers from the Garrett era are left and I came up with

QB: 2 (Dak, Rush)
RB: 2 (Zeke, Pollard)
TE: 2 (Jarwin, Schultz)
WR: 3 (Cooper, Gallup, Brown)
OL: 5 (Tyron, LC, Martin, Williams, McGovern)
DL: 4 (DLaw, Armstrong, Gregory, Hill)
LB: 2 (LVE, Jaylon)
DB: 4 (Lewis, Brown, Wilson, Goodwin)

That’s roughly 24 of the 53, give or take guys on IR, that are still here 2 years later. Next year we know the LBs are probably gone and so is Gallup and Williams. Who knows about Rush or other fringe guys like Brown and Lewis. But it seems like the majority of our 1-20 guys will still be here. Should there be more turnover on a roster that’s struggled so much?

Our biggest roster issues start with the fact that the two guys in charge of it have a hard time letting go of people they drafted that are not really helping the team.

Here are some examples the last decade:

• 2011- David Arkin- 4th round G- 3 years
• 2012- Mo Claiborne- 1st round CB- 5 years
• 2012- Kyle Wilbur- 4th round LB- 5 years
• 2013- Gavin Escobar- 2nd round TE- 4 years
• 2013- JJ Wilcox- 4th round S- 4 years
• 2015- Chaz Green- 3rd round T- 3 years
• 2016- Charles Tapper- 4th round DE- 4 years
• 2016- Kevin Frazier- 6th round S- 3 years
• 2016- Rico Gathers- 6th round TE- 3 years
• 2017- Xavier Woods- 6th round S- 4 years
• 2019- Ben DiNucci- 7th round QB- 3 years (including this one)

Most of these guys were here multiple years and never did much of anything. You could argue that the Jones draft guys love their picks so much they can’t churn their roster as much as they should. Or is it- “We like our guys”.

 

[Jake]

Our biggest roster issues start with the fact that the two guys in charge of it have a hard time letting go of people they drafted that are not really helping the team.

Here are some examples the last decade:

• 2011- David Arkin- 4th round G- 3 years
• 2012- Mo Claiborne- 1st round CB- 5 years
• 2012- Kyle Wilbur- 4th round LB- 5 years
• 2013- Gavin Escobar- 2nd round TE- 4 years
• 2013- JJ Wilcox- 4th round S- 4 years
• 2015- Chaz Green- 3rd round T- 3 years
• 2016- Charles Tapper- 4th round DE- 4 years
• 2016- Kevin Frazier- 6th round S- 3 years
• 2016- Rico Gathers- 6th round TE- 3 years
• 2017- Xavier Woods- 6th round S- 4 years
• 2019- Ben DiNucci- 7th round QB- 3 years (including this one)

Most of these guys were here multiple years and never did much of anything. You could argue that the Jones draft guys love their picks so much they can’t churn their roster as much as they should. Or is it- “We like our guys”.

They can exercise the patience of Job while hoping they're proven right because no one is going to fire them. Amazing how some still don't see that as a problem.

 

[jazzcat22]

The narrative in the NFL is that 40% of your roster turns over every year. The idea is that every 3 years you have mostly a brand new team except for 5-10 stars.

After watching tonight’s game I was wondering how many holdovers from the Garrett era are left and I came up with

QB: 2 (Dak, Rush)
RB: 2 (Zeke, Pollard)
TE: 2 (Jarwin, Schultz)
WR: 3 (Cooper, Gallup, Brown)
OL: 5 (Tyron, LC, Martin, Williams, McGovern)
DL: 4 (DLaw, Armstrong, Gregory, Hill)
LB: 2 (LVE, Jaylon)
DB: 4 (Lewis, Brown, Wilson, Goodwin)

That’s roughly 24 of the 53, give or take guys on IR, that are still here 2 years later. Next year we know the LBs are probably gone and so is Gallup and Williams. Who knows about Rush or other fringe guys like Brown and Lewis. But it seems like the majority of our 1-20 guys will still be here. Should there be more turnover on a roster that’s struggled so much?

When Parcells was here, his 1st year he made a statement that most teams have a 32% or maybe it was 35% turnover every year. A SB or very good team may have less, like 28% at the most. So this is right about that average, as to a less talented team. Though we been told for years how talented we are.