Interesting Tony Pollard Stat

[T-RO]

Semantics. You know exactly what I mean.

Pollard makes magic in multiple ways: incredible burst, breaks lots of tackles, shifty as hell. He's been a league-leader in multiple per-play-production stats over several seasons.

In the bigger Pollard picture: I guess I don't know what you mean.

 

[joseephuss]

Hambrick was special until we found out he was not

Not really. There were only a few who thought Hambrick could be good. Most saw him for what he was.

 

[jwitten82]

Never pay a RB

 

[joseephuss]

Yeah, I don't understand that it took them 3 years to figure out how to use TP. 2-3 years seems legit at 8 million a year. As long as Zeke is cut, and we draft an RB. By the way teams like Chicago got plenty of money to burn next year 100m. TP and Justin Fields would be deadly.

His workload has increased each year he has been in Dallas.

 

[john van brocklin]

Saw that TP has 5 touchdowns of 30 or more yards this season, most in franchise history with many games still to play.

Just a quick reminder that:
1) He is somehow not the feature back on this football team
2) Sometimes you should pay RBs (or franchise tag them). This is one of those times

Him not starting is a joke.
I like Zeke, but C'mon man!

 

[john van brocklin]

I can see the cowboys franchise tagging him.

Do whatever it takes to keep him.
Even cutting Zeke if necessary.

 

[Runwildboys]

Pollard makes magic in multiple ways: incredible burst, breaks lots of tackles, shifty as hell. He's been a league-leader in multiple per-play-production stats over several seasons.

In the bigger Pollard picture: I guess I don't know what you mean.

I'm not even saying his success is predicated on the performance of Zeke and the O-line. I think he's fantastic. I'm just saying I'd want an extremely judicious evaluation before spending a ton of money on him, if I were the GM, just as I would want any other player evaluated to see how much of their success was due to them personally.

 

[McMicah]

I get it. It’s trendy to say “don’t pay your running backs”, and that makes complete sense…. if you make your bread and butter as a passing team.

We don’t. We employ a bus driver QB that requires a running game because he is most successful out of play action. For play action to work, you have to scare people. Anyone watching Zeke vs Pollard this year knows that a great RB can be the difference between a second level tackle and a 40 yd TD. That’s worth the money IMO to keep a RB that scares defenses.

 

[Cowpolk]

I get it. It’s trendy to say “don’t pay your running backs”, and that makes complete sense…. if you make your bread and butter as a passing team.

We don’t. We employ a bus driver QB that requires a running game because he is most successful out of play action. For play action to work, you have to scare people. Anyone watching Zeke vs Pollard this year knows that a great RB can be the difference between a second level tackle and a 40 yd TD. That’s worth the money IMO to keep a RB that scares defenses.

That is why we keep both and use them

 

[Captain43Crash]

Define accomplished? Are you saying that he has accomplished what Tony Dorsett or Emmitt Smith weren't able to in a season overall? Yes, he has more 30+ yard TD's than those two, but if you say that one facet puts him in their ball park I will laugh you right out of here. There are many more things they were able to "accomplish" in a season, and a career to this point to say he is "special" with the implication that those two (and a couple or so others) aren't.

I love Pollard and what he brings to this team, he is the best back we have right now. That said he needs to show it as a bell cow, that as you said is taking pretty much every snap, before we can compare him to our lucky history with HoF and near HoF backs (here looking at you Perkins).

It would be EXTREMELY stupid to have Pollard take almost every snap! We have Zek for short yardage situations and to wear down teams in the 4th quarter. Pollard should be getting about 2/3’s of the snaps.

Also, Pollard is Special. Look at his yards per carry over the last 2 years and all the explosive play he has had!!

 

[terra]

I would never make the same mistake twice like we did with Zeke. DONT pay RB's. Now a two year deal at around 8 million/year might be something I might consider. There are plenty of other good backs out there. This is a great year for backs in FA.

Pay the line, not the back. WE blew it with Pollard. The guy was here for 4 years and we wasted him here.

Yawn

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not saying Zeke made it easy. Not even saying it's easy. If it were, he'd have a lot more TDs of 30 yards. But you can't possibly think that Zeke, the O-line, and the play calling have no bearing.

Pollard is a great weapon, but if the FO we're to give him a big contract, then his production dropped, everyone would be saying how stupid they were not to look hard into why he was so successful.

The Oline has bearing no doubt. Zeke has no bearing at all. In fact, Zeke has had a negative bearing on Pollards career. Play calling? Thats just another Zeke apologist myth.

If there is anyone that has benefited from the coaching and play calling its been Zeke. The FO has coddled him and given him most of the carries when he doesnt deserve them.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Define accomplished? Are you saying that he has accomplished what Tony Dorsett or Emmitt Smith weren't able to in a season overall? Yes, he has more 30+ yard TD's than those two, but if you say that one facet puts him in their ball park I will laugh you right out of here. There are many more things they were able to "accomplish" in a season, and a career to this point to say he is "special" with the implication that those two (and a couple or so others) aren't.

I love Pollard and what he brings to this team, he is the best back we have right now. That said he needs to show it as a bell cow, that as you said is taking pretty much every snap, before we can compare him to our lucky history with HoF and near HoF backs (here looking at you Perkins).

Why does Pollard need to show it all as a bell cow? If Pollard does in 15 carries what these other guys need 25 to do that makes him look better.

 

[T-RO]

Yawn

5 touchdowns of 30 or more yards this season...
and all you got it "Yawn."

Your contributions to the discussion are overwhelming all of us.

 

[cityochamps]

No running back in history is ever "solely responsible for his big plays"

 

[CowboyRoy]

His workload has increased each year he has been in Dallas.

Whats your point?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not even saying his success is predicated on the performance of Zeke and the O-line. I think he's fantastic. I'm just saying I'd want an extremely judicious evaluation before spending a ton of money on him, if I were the GM, just as I would want any other player evaluated to see how much of their success was due to them personally.

Judicious evaluation? All you have to do is watch him play.

 

[john van brocklin]

I'm not even saying his success is predicated on the performance of Zeke and the O-line. I think he's fantastic. I'm just saying I'd want an extremely judicious evaluation before spending a ton of money on him, if I were the GM, just as I would want any other player evaluated to see how much of their success was due to them personally.

We can trust Jerry to make the correct decision for the good of the franchise.

 

[Sarge]

But Zeke is better……….

 

[CowboyRoy]

I get it. It’s trendy to say “don’t pay your running backs”, and that makes complete sense…. if you make your bread and butter as a passing team.

We don’t. We employ a bus driver QB that requires a running game because he is most successful out of play action. For play action to work, you have to scare people. Anyone watching Zeke vs Pollard this year knows that a great RB can be the difference between a second level tackle and a 40 yd TD. That’s worth the money IMO to keep a RB that scares defenses.

How can you be in a rational football conversation and not know what a bus driver QB is?

And oddly you don't realize that most QB's are most successful out of play action passes off a good run game.