Interesting tweets about Dallas' draft

[ThreeandOut]

I have no problem with picking Frederick at 31. If the Ravens drafted him immediately afterwards, everyone would be talking about how smart they were and how it was great to take the guy they targeted.

Yep, if Baltimore had taken him at 32 they wouldn't have be criticized.

If Dallas had stayed at 18 and taken Reid, they would have been criticized for reaching on him. But if San Francisco, moves up and selects him at 18 (giving up a 3rd) rounder in the process, they are smart.

Dallas gets criticized for passing on Floyd, then moving back to 31 (getting a third rounder in the process) to "reach" for an OL they could have had in the 2nd round. But New York and Chicago also pass on Floyd and reach for OL's they could have had in the second round (and they don't even get the extra 3rd rounder), and nobody has a problem with what they did.

Notice any patterns here?

 

[DBOY3141]

Yep, if Baltimore had taken him at 32 they wouldn't have be criticized.

If Dallas had stayed at 18 and taken Reid, they would have been criticized for reaching on him. But if San Francisco, moves up and selects him at 18 (giving up a 3rd) rounder in the process, they are smart.

Dallas gets criticized for passing on Floyd, then moving back to 31 (getting a third rounder in the process) to "reach" for an OL they could have had in the 2nd round. But New York and Chicago also pass on Floyd and reach for OL's they could have had in the second round (and they don't even get the extra 3rd rounder), and nobody has a problem with what they did.

Notice any patterns here?

You are spot on.

 

[xwalker]

They needed to get the guy that they wanted. A small "reach" is much better than the 2009 draft where they could have used one of about a dozen later round picks to move up in the 2nd and get the player that they targeted, Max Unger.

I would have been overjoyed in the proceeding years if they have traded both 3rd rounders Brewster and Jason Williams for Unger. In fact, they would have been better off trading all of their picks for Unger.

 

[Woods]

Yep, if Baltimore had taken him at 32 they wouldn't have be criticized.

If Dallas had stayed at 18 and taken Reid, they would have been criticized for reaching on him. But if San Francisco, moves up and selects him at 18 (giving up a 3rd) rounder in the process, they are smart.

Dallas gets criticized for passing on Floyd, then moving back to 31 (getting a third rounder in the process) to "reach" for an OL they could have had in the 2nd round. But New York and Chicago also pass on Floyd and reach for OL's they could have had in the second round (and they don't even get the extra 3rd rounder), and nobody has a problem with what they did.

Notice any patterns here?

I can only imagine the reaction if we had drafted Pugh or Reid at 18. :laugh2:

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Yep, if Baltimore had taken him at 32 they wouldn't have be criticized.

If Dallas had stayed at 18 and taken Reid, they would have been criticized for reaching on him. But if San Francisco, moves up and selects him at 18 (giving up a 3rd) rounder in the process, they are smart.

Dallas gets criticized for passing on Floyd, then moving back to 31 (getting a third rounder in the process) to "reach" for an OL they could have had in the 2nd round. But New York and Chicago also pass on Floyd and reach for OL's they could have had in the second round (and they don't even get the extra 3rd rounder), and nobody has a problem with what they did.

Notice any patterns here?

ost:

 

[RS12]

#Cowboys Jerry Jones explained Frederick pick perfectly today. Couldn't wait to 47 to get 'Last of the Mohicans' to give Romo half a second/

Paging Max Unger

 

[mmillman]

I heard Gil Brandt on NFL radio yesterday discussing the Frederick pick. Said he originally had Frederick listed as the 27th best player on his top 100, until the combine 40 time.

I saw an earlier post that listed his combine results and it seems the 40 time was the only one that he compared poorly in. Given the position I wouldn't think the 40 time would be that relevant, if his other times were good.

On tape he looks slow. He pulled on a screen and looked ridiculous and whiffed on some quick linemen. Certainly doesn't look like he will be able to handle quicker D-linemen. More of a mauler type. I am pretty sure he would have been available well into the second round at least. Jones is about the same type and he went in the fourth I think.

 

[Hoofbite]

Sounds like we may have been lucky to get him at 47.

I don't know what that tweet means. Didnt want to lose 42 but lost a guy taken after?

 

[Hoofbite]

Yep, if Baltimore had taken him at 32 they wouldn't have be criticized.

If Dallas had stayed at 18 and taken Reid, they would have been criticized for reaching on him. But if San Francisco, moves up and selects him at 18 (giving up a 3rd) rounder in the process, they are smart.

Dallas gets criticized for passing on Floyd, then moving back to 31 (getting a third rounder in the process) to "reach" for an OL they could have had in the 2nd round. But New York and Chicago also pass on Floyd and reach for OL's they could have had in the second round (and they don't even get the extra 3rd rounder), and nobody has a problem with what they did.

Notice any patterns here?

So you seek out info for those teams to the same extent that you do Dallas?

Frequent those message boards as well?

You follow Dallas so you hear everything, good or bad. I can't remember the last time I read more than the headline to an article written about another team.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

I don't know what that tweet means. Didnt want to lose 42 but lost a guy taken after?

Pretty sure it means that the fins did not want to trade up in the second because they had already used pick 42 to move up in the first.

 

[RS12]

I don't know what that tweet means. Didnt want to lose 42 but lost a guy taken after?

They sent 42 to Oakland to draft Jordan. Dallas took Escobar at 47, Miami other second was in 50's, so they ended up missing out on Escobar. Miami had an extra 2 from the Vontae Davis trade to Indy.

 

[ThreeandOut]

So you seek out info for those teams to the same extent that you do Dallas?

Frequent those message boards as well?

You follow Dallas so you hear everything, good or bad. I can't remember the last time I read more than the headline to an article written about another team.

Nope, I'm simply reading all these draft grades and other national media singling out Dallas for something that at least a couple of other teams had done.

 

[Kalyan]

Yep, if Baltimore had taken him at 32 they wouldn't have be criticized.

If Dallas had stayed at 18 and taken Reid, they would have been criticized for reaching on him. But if San Francisco, moves up and selects him at 18 (giving up a 3rd) rounder in the process, they are smart.

Dallas gets criticized for passing on Floyd, then moving back to 31 (getting a third rounder in the process) to "reach" for an OL they could have had in the 2nd round. But New York and Chicago also pass on Floyd and reach for OL's they could have had in the second round (and they don't even get the extra 3rd rounder), and nobody has a problem with what they did.

Notice any patterns here?

I believe SF and BAL earned that benefit of doubt and we don't until we earn it with string together a few good drafts

 

[pancakeman]

Paging Max Unger

Yup. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

 

[DFWJC]

Paging Max Unger

I think this year's Max Unger (Schwenke) was taken in the 4th round. I understand Jerry's relcutance to fool around. Plus they had Greddy ranked a good bit higher than some, so it was not much of a reach for them. That's what counts.

But I hope our guy dominates.

 

[RS12]

I think this year's Max Unger (Schwenke) was taken in the 4th round. I understand Jerry's relcutance to fool around. Plus they had Greddy ranked a good bit higher than some, so it was not much of a reach for them. That's what counts.

But I hope our guy dominates.

I would not have minded them drafting both Frederick and Schwenke

 

[ThreeandOut]

I believe SF and BAL earned that benefit of doubt and we don't until we earn it with string together a few good drafts

No, it's either a good move or it isn't regardless of whom is making the decision.

 

[Miller]

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Evan Silva ‏@evansilva 2h Yahoo's Jason Cole also writes there's a "consensus around the league" the #Cowboys reached for Travis Frederick: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--2013-nfc-draft-grades--coming-off-a-super-bowl-season--the-49ers-have-a-super-draft-222459529.html …

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It was less than six months ago that Dallas owner Jerry Jones put himself on notice as GM of the Cowboys, saying he would have fired himself. Well, based on the early returns from this year's NFL draft, Jones once again has cause for self-dismissal.
The Cowboys were the only team to earn a failing grade for their performance in the draft, an effort that included a trade down and the subsequent selection of a player they could have gotten rounds later.
For the most part, the NFC performed well, led by teams such as San Francisco, Minnesota, Atlanta and, yes, Tampa Bay.
Here's an early assessment of how the NFC teams fared:
NFC EAST

Dallas Cowboys
Picks: C Travis Frederick, TE Gavin Escobar, WR Terrance Williams, FS J.J. Wilcox, CB B.W. Webb, RB Joseph Randle, OLB DeVonte Holloman

Travis Frederick (Getty)Analysis: Last year, the Cowboys received a B after an aggressive move up the board to get cornerback Morris Claiborne. This year they traded down, and the grade bottomed out with it. Three of first four picks are guys who might not play significantly this year. The consensus around the league is that Frederick was a reach. Escobar was a fine pick, but then Williams and Wilcox are two guys who might not play for two years. Considering the Cowboys have Miles Austin, Dez Bryant and Jason Witten, Williams was an unnecessary luxury (particularly after the Escobar pick). Wilcox can be an in-the-box safety, but he’s so woefully inexperienced that it’s going to take awhile.
Grade: F

 

[cannonball44]

People sure are high on Escobar.

I just dont see it.

 

[Western]

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Clearly and unequivocally, Jason Cole has an intense hatred for and vendetta against the Cowboy organization.
His analysis and conclusions are not even to be taken seriously.