Is Beriault Out for the Season?

[chargrove]

I saw him listed on IR, so does that still mean he's gone for the whole year?

 

[jksmith269]

yep IR is for the season

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

yup yup

 

[Doomsday101]

I saw him listed on IR, so does that still mean he's gone for the whole year?

I believe so, although I think any player who is on IR that trys to come back during the season has to go through waviers 1st which is why when a player is put on IR it is normally for the season.

 

[chargrove]

Man that's too bad. I wanted to see him play some more after that Mon. night game when he was in w/ the backups.

 

[joseephuss]

The NFL IR rules are kind of dumb. It was put in place to counter teams that were stashing players on the weekly injured lists. Seemed like an extreme repsonse. I think it needs to be re-evaluated during the next collective bargaining agreement. They need to have an IR where players can return halfway through the season and one for the full season. Some guys have injuries that aren't season ending and deserve a chance to help their teams and themselves. From the NFLPA perspective, I would think they would want a union member to have the opportunity to earn more money by returning mid-season. My opinion is not based on the injury to Beriault. I have had these thoughts ever since they put the season long IR into effect.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

On a side note, imagine what he can do when healthy! He as all over the field with a bum wheel, he will be scary when he is able to fly around.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The NFL IR rules are kind of dumb. It was put in place to counter teams that were stashing players on the weekly injured lists. Seemed like an extreme repsonse. I think it needs to be re-evaluated during the next collective bargaining agreement. They need to have an IR where players can return halfway through the season and one for the full season. Some guys have injuries that aren't season ending and deserve a chance to help their teams and themselves. From the NFLPA perspective, I would think they would want a union member to have the opportunity to earn more money by returning mid-season. My opinion is not based on the injury to Beriault. I have had these thoughts ever since they put the season long IR into effect.

They could have PUPd him like they did with Woodson last year, which would have allowed him to come back in six weeks plus a 21-day window. The fact that they didn't leads me to believe that he'll genuinely need much more recovery time than that.

 

[jksmith269]

The NFL IR rules are kind of dumb. It was put in place to counter teams that were stashing players on the weekly injured lists. Seemed like an extreme repsonse. I think it needs to be re-evaluated during the next collective bargaining agreement. They need to have an IR where players can return halfway through the season and one for the full season. Some guys have injuries that aren't season ending and deserve a chance to help their teams and themselves. From the NFLPA perspective, I would think they would want a union member to have the opportunity to earn more money by returning mid-season. My opinion is not based on the injury to Beriault. I have had these thoughts ever since they put the season long IR into effect.

They do its called the PUP but it has to be claimed before the season starts. You can't go on it at anytime during the season.

I agree we need something like the 6 (or however long) Game DL kinda like the baseball 15 day DL.

 

[Yeagermeister]

They could have PUPd him like they did with Woodson last year, which would have allowed him to come back in six weeks plus a 21-day window. The fact that they didn't leads me to believe that he'll genuinely need much more recovery time than that.

We could have if he hadn't participated in TC and the preseason games.

 

[dargonking999]

what is he on IR what happened to him

 

[Chocolate Lab]

We could have if he hadn't participated in TC and the preseason games.

Doh! I knew that! :

 

[Yeagermeister]

what is he on IR what happened to him

He needs knee surgery

 

[blindzebra]

There needs to be a 4, 8, 12, or 16 week IR; kinda like the DL in MLB.

If you want to head off any shenanigans, just make it illegal to add a player from the IR, without releasing another player. Thus teams cannot put player A on IR, bring him back by putting player B on the IR.

 

[peppersquad]

There needs to be a 4, 8, 12, or 16 week IR; kinda like the DL in MLB.

If you want to head off any shenanigans, just make it illegal to add a player from the IR, without releasing another player. Thus teams cannot put player A on IR, bring him back by putting player B on the IR.

I think thats a pretty good idea.

 

[AdamJT13]

There already is a short-term IR. It's called the inactive list.

 

[blindzebra]

There already is a short-term IR. It's called the inactive list.

Yes, but they are still on the 53 player roster. What is needed is a non-permanent means of handling injured players that will be out 4 or more weeks, but not the season.

 

[playit12]

There already is a short-term IR. It's called the inactive list.

I have to agree with Adam here. If the injury is short term and the player will be able to contribute then they will just keep him on Roster and inactivate him. We certainly didn't put JJ on the IR last season.

I wouldn't mind seeing a one time only IR comeback like the PUP list, but then I'd imagine you'd see some abuse of that as well. Namely keeping guys on that IR so that other teams can't sign the for the season. This all on the "chance" that the person ahead of them might get injured. For instance we put Carson on the IR and if any of our DTs get injured in the first 9 games of the season we have Carson to add after week 9. He's kept from signing with another team.

 

[AdamJT13]

Yes, but they are still on the 53 player roster. What is needed is a non-permanent means of handling injured players that will be out 4 or more weeks, but not the season.

That's exactly what the inactive list is designed for -- allowing injured players who can return later in the season to remain on the roster. It's not just to prevent seven or eight players from playing in games. It's a means of leveling the field for teams who have more or fewer injuries than others.

 

[blindzebra]

I have to agree with Adam here. If the injury is short term and the player will be able to contribute then they will just keep him on Roster and inactivate him. We certainly didn't put JJ on the IR last season.

I wouldn't mind seeing a one time only IR comeback like the PUP list, but then I'd imagine you'd see some abuse of that as well. Namely keeping guys on that IR so that other teams can't sign the for the season. This all on the "chance" that the person ahead of them might get injured. For instance we put Carson on the IR and if any of our DTs get injured in the first 9 games of the season we have Carson to add after week 9. He's kept from signing with another team.

Re-read my suggestion, for 4, 8, 12 or 16 week IRs.

All that will be needed is a player will need to be released if you bring a player off IR. I'd also make that released player ineligible to be re-signed.

So using your example of hiding Carson on IR. If say Ferguson gets hurt, we could not just swap Carson for Ferguson. Another player would need to be cut, and that player cannot be re-signed during the current season.