Is Bledsoe going into the HOF in his first year of eligibility like Moon?

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I think we can finally put the 'Bledsoe being a HOF QB' debate to rest after today's announcement of Warren Moon being inducted into the HOF in his FIRST year of eligability. Love him or hate him, Studsoe most certainly is Canton bound with his gaudy resume.

Now here's why...some key Warren Moon facts and figures:

1) 3-7 career playoff records(sub .500)....Bledsoe is already better in wins with 4(or 5 if you count the 01' AFC Championship)

2) ZERO superbowl appearances....again Bledsoe is better, 2 SB's, 1 Ring(even though it came with him riding the pine)

3) Moon the true definition of a journeyman: 5 years in the CFL, Oilers, Vikings, Seahawks and Chief.....Drew has played for Pats, Bills and now Cowboys

4) 49,325 Career Passing Yards (51,061 including rushing)....Drew is already at 43,447 and should surpass Moon's total easily in 07' barring injury.

5) 291 Career Passing TD's (313 Total including rushing)....Drew is at 244 right now and has never been a passing TD machine. He will at the very least match Moon's total. He's 47 away right now.

6) 9 probowls....beats Drew in this category, but we all know the pro bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest and pretty much meaningless stat.....Mike Vick anybody?

7) 6823 Attempts with 3988 Completions....Studsoe is right behind him in both categories with 6548 attempts and 3749 completions as of TODAY.

Moon had a stellar NFL career and is rightfully deserving of this honor. But many doubters and purists thought that not having a superbowl ring would be the reason Moon wouldn't get in.....not only did he get in, he did it on the FIRST try. No matter what anybody says and even though he didn't win it as a starter.....Drew has that elusive ring on his finger.

Also keep in mind right now Drew is 7th on the all time passer list, and he's primed to pass Testeverde and Tarketon next season. Assuming Brett Favre retires this offseason, Bledstudsoe may even end up #2 all time behind Marino.....and yes I believe he has an OUTSIDE chance of catching Marino if he plays well into his late 30's. But honestly who cares about that if he can win a title or two and ride of into the sunset.

So what do you Bledsoe Bashers have to say now? Especially knowing the HOF caters to the QB position more than anything else? Still want to debate Drew's alleged mediorce career? Or would you like to debate whether he goes into the hall as a Patriot, Bill or Cowboy?:cool:
 

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If he gets us to the Super Bowl, he's a lock. I really think people took Moon's 6 years in the CFL into consideration.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
I think we can finally put the 'Bledsoe being a HOF QB' debate to rest after today's announcement of Warren Moon being inducted into the HOF in his FIRST year of eligability. Love him or hate him, Studsoe most certainly is Canton bound with his gaudy resume.

Now here's why...some key Warren Moon facts and figures:

1) 3-7 career playoff records(sub .500)....Bledsoe is already better in wins with 4(or 5 if you count the 01' AFC Championship)

2) ZERO superbowl appearances....again Bledsoe is better, 2 SB's, 1 Ring(even though it came with him riding the pine)

3) Moon the true definition of a journeyman: 5 years in the CFL, Oilers, Vikings, Seahawks and Chief.....Drew has played for Pats, Bills and now Cowboys

4) 49,325 Career Passing Yards (51,061 including rushing)....Drew is already at 43,447 and should surpass Moon's total easily in 07' barring injury.

5) 291 Career Passing TD's (313 Total including rushing)....Drew is at 244 right now and has never been a passing TD machine. He will at the very least match Moon's total. He's 47 away right now.

6) 9 probowls....beats Drew in this category, but we all know the pro bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest and pretty much meaningless stat.....Mike Vick anybody?

7) 6823 Attempts with 3988 Completions....Studsoe is right behind him in both categories with 6548 attempts and 3749 completions as of TODAY.

Moon had a stellar NFL career and is rightfully deserving of this honor. But many doubters and purists thought that not having a superbowl ring would be the reason Moon wouldn't get in.....not only did he get in, he did it on the FIRST try. No matter what anybody says and even though he didn't win it as a starter.....Drew has that elusive ring on his finger.

Also keep in mind right now Drew is 7th on the all time passer list, and he's primed to pass Testeverde and Tarketon next season. Assuming Brett Favre retires this offseason, Bledstudsoe may even end up #2 all time behind Marino.....and yes I believe he has an OUTSIDE chance of catching Marino if he plays well into his late 30's. But honestly who cares about that if he can win a title or two and ride of into the sunset.

So what do you Bledsoe Bashers have to say now? Especially knowing the HOF caters to the QB position more than anything else? Still want to debate Drew's alleged mediorce career? Or would you like to debate whether he goes into the hall as a Patriot, Bill or Cowboy?:cool:

Bledsoe probably will get in the HOF, but maybe not the first time.

And oh, by the way

gaudy - Showy in a tasteless or vulgar way.

Don't use that word, sort of makes people wonder whether Bledsoe is tasteless, or just his gameplay is tasteless...

And no, "gaudy" does not mean "god-dy", so please don't whip out the "Godsoe"...
 

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lzppjb said:
If he gets us to the Super Bowl, he's a lock. I really think people took Moon's 6 years in the CFL into consideration.

The NFL could care less about CFL or Arena League accomplishments or in that case Doug Flutie would be a lock for the HOF as well. Speaking of that we can debate if Kurt Warner should be in too. Moon got in because he put up some great numbers, and was also a solid playmaker with his legs.

Studsoe should be a lock assuming he plays at least 2 more years and doesn't suffer a career ending injury anytime soon. He's still relatively young and in good shape. If he plays 4 or 5 more years who knows where he will finish on the all time lists. The numbers will be very intimidating to say the least.

But there is no question that at least one deep run into the playoffs (preferably a world title won on his own) in his later years would validate his greatness. It would prove he got it done early and late in his storied career.:bow:
 

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DragonCowboy said:
Bledsoe probably will get in the HOF, but maybe not the first time.

And oh, by the way

gaudy - Showy in a tasteless or vulgar way.

Don't use that word, sort of makes people wonder whether Bledsoe is tasteless, or just his gameplay is tasteless...

And no, "gaudy" does not mean "god-dy", so please don't whip out the "Godsoe"...

Gaudy, Intimidating, Enviable, Astonishing, Awe Inspiring, Mesmorizing....yes these are all words that are befitting to describe Studsoe not only as a football player, but as a human being as well.:bow: :bow: :bow:
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
Gaudy, Intimidating, Enviable, Astonishing, Awe Inspiring, Mesmorizing....yes these are all words that describe Studsoe not only as a football player, but as a human being as well.:bow: :bow: :bow:

hahahah this idol worship is actually pretty amusing...

Anyway, I really do think that Bledsoe should make it in the HOF, but then again, a Super Bowl or two would be a way for him to get in for sure!! It sure would be nice to see Super Bowl 6 and Super Bowl 7 for the Cowboys with Bledsoe's name on it.
 

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hahahah this idol worship is actually pretty amusing...

Anyway, I really do think that Bledsoe should make it in the HOF, but then again, a Super Bowl or two would be a way for him to get in for sure!! It sure would be nice to see Super Bowl 6 and Super Bowl 7 for the Cowboys with Bledsoe's name on it.

Indeed! :beer2:
 

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The NFL could care less about CFL or Arena League accomplishments or in that case Doug Flutie would be a lock for the HOF as well.

Not his accomplishments there. The fact that he had to waste 6 years there instead of putting up even crazier numbers in the NFL.
 

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I'd say his chances are about 20% at this point.

Bledsoe would make it on longevity rather than being a top-flight QB.

He's an above average QB who played a long time.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
I think we can finally put the 'Bledsoe being a HOF QB' debate to rest after today's announcement of Warren Moon being inducted into the HOF in his FIRST year of eligability. Love him or hate him, Studsoe most certainly is Canton bound with his gaudy resume.

Now here's why...some key Warren Moon facts and figures:

1) 3-7 career playoff records(sub .500)....Bledsoe is already better in wins with 4(or 5 if you count the 01' AFC Championship)

2) ZERO superbowl appearances....again Bledsoe is better, 2 SB's, 1 Ring(even though it came with him riding the pine)

3) Moon the true definition of a journeyman: 5 years in the CFL, Oilers, Vikings, Seahawks and Chief.....Drew has played for Pats, Bills and now Cowboys

4) 49,325 Career Passing Yards (51,061 including rushing)....Drew is already at 43,447 and should surpass Moon's total easily in 07' barring injury.

5) 291 Career Passing TD's (313 Total including rushing)....Drew is at 244 right now and has never been a passing TD machine. He will at the very least match Moon's total. He's 47 away right now.

6) 9 probowls....beats Drew in this category, but we all know the pro bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest and pretty much meaningless stat.....Mike Vick anybody?

7) 6823 Attempts with 3988 Completions....Studsoe is right behind him in both categories with 6548 attempts and 3749 completions as of TODAY.

Moon had a stellar NFL career and is rightfully deserving of this honor. But many doubters and purists thought that not having a superbowl ring would be the reason Moon wouldn't get in.....not only did he get in, he did it on the FIRST try. No matter what anybody says and even though he didn't win it as a starter.....Drew has that elusive ring on his finger.

Also keep in mind right now Drew is 7th on the all time passer list, and he's primed to pass Testeverde and Tarketon next season. Assuming Brett Favre retires this offseason, Bledstudsoe may even end up #2 all time behind Marino.....and yes I believe he has an OUTSIDE chance of catching Marino if he plays well into his late 30's. But honestly who cares about that if he can win a title or two and ride of into the sunset.

So what do you Bledsoe Bashers have to say now? Especially knowing the HOF caters to the QB position more than anything else? Still want to debate Drew's alleged mediorce career? Or would you like to debate whether he goes into the hall as a Patriot, Bill or Cowboy?:cool:


You beat me to the post!!! hahaha!

When I heard Moon was in I almost jumped through the roof! I always predicted that if Bledsoe surpassed 50,000 yards then he was a LOCK for the hall of fame no matter if he goes back to the superbowl again or not.

Now that Moon has made the hall with NEVER going to a S.B. I have NO DOUBT that Bledsoe will be in the hall of fame.

Great job on comparing his stats to Moon's. As long as Bledsoe plays in 2006 and 2007 and stays healthy then he will not doubt pass Moon in yardage and at least tie him if not surpass him in the attempts/completions and TD's.

IF Bledsoe would play for 3 or 4 more seasons he will take down all of the QB's and most likley finish as the NFL's all time leading passer in HISTORY..

Even if 2007 is Bledsoe's last year in the league, This should finally put an END to the debate on whether Bledsoe is a HOF QB.

The answer is without a doubt...

YES.... :bow: :bow:
 

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Seriously Bledsoe has won 2 Conference championship games something Manning hasn't done. Like Manning he has a bazillion yards passing and a lot of TD passes.

Right now I'd say he is about 50/50 because a lot of it is perception. Manning is perceived as far better even though he has yet to come close to winning the biggest games.

I am not a big "race card" guy but you have to give Moon credit for helping break a barrier(mental in the emind of coaches/GMs) at the position.
 

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The Hall of Fame is about impact on the game. Moon had a much bigger impact on the game than Bledsoe has to this point.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
I think we can finally put the 'Bledsoe being a HOF QB' debate to rest after today's announcement of Warren Moon being inducted into the HOF in his FIRST year of eligability. Love him or hate him, Studsoe most certainly is Canton bound with his gaudy resume.

Now here's why...some key Warren Moon facts and figures:

1) 3-7 career playoff records(sub .500)....Bledsoe is already better in wins with 4(or 5 if you count the 01' AFC Championship)

2) ZERO superbowl appearances....again Bledsoe is better, 2 SB's, 1 Ring(even though it came with him riding the pine)

3) Moon the true definition of a journeyman: 5 years in the CFL, Oilers, Vikings, Seahawks and Chief.....Drew has played for Pats, Bills and now Cowboys

4) 49,325 Career Passing Yards (51,061 including rushing)....Drew is already at 43,447 and should surpass Moon's total easily in 07' barring injury.

5) 291 Career Passing TD's (313 Total including rushing)....Drew is at 244 right now and has never been a passing TD machine. He will at the very least match Moon's total. He's 47 away right now.

6) 9 probowls....beats Drew in this category, but we all know the pro bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest and pretty much meaningless stat.....Mike Vick anybody?

7) 6823 Attempts with 3988 Completions....Studsoe is right behind him in both categories with 6548 attempts and 3749 completions as of TODAY.

Moon had a stellar NFL career and is rightfully deserving of this honor. But many doubters and purists thought that not having a superbowl ring would be the reason Moon wouldn't get in.....not only did he get in, he did it on the FIRST try. No matter what anybody says and even though he didn't win it as a starter.....Drew has that elusive ring on his finger.

Also keep in mind right now Drew is 7th on the all time passer list, and he's primed to pass Testeverde and Tarketon next season. Assuming Brett Favre retires this offseason, Bledstudsoe may even end up #2 all time behind Marino.....and yes I believe he has an OUTSIDE chance of catching Marino if he plays well into his late 30's. But honestly who cares about that if he can win a title or two and ride of into the sunset.

So what do you Bledsoe Bashers have to say now? Especially knowing the HOF caters to the QB position more than anything else? Still want to debate Drew's alleged mediorce career? Or would you like to debate whether he goes into the hall as a Patriot, Bill or Cowboy?:cool:

Serious question here: Are you related to Bledsoe or something? You have about 33 post at the time I posted this and from what I can tell every single post is about Bledsoe. Your ID is Bledsoe4MVP. Why dont you come clean? Who are you and why are you here?
 

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Hostile said:
The Hall of Fame is about impact on the game. Moon had a much bigger impact on the game than Bledsoe has to this point.


Exactly.

You ask 100 knowledgable football fans who they would rather have in their "Prime"... Drew Bledsoe or Warren Moon?

I would bet easily 7 out of 10 would take Moon.
 

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Hostile said:
The Hall of Fame is about impact on the game. Moon had a much bigger impact on the game than Bledsoe has to this point.


Excellent point - Moon was the losing QB in the biggest CHOKE in NFL playoff history!


That accomplishment aside,
Other than the color of their skins - very similar QB's.
Whoever wants to play that card - put Doug Williams in. He was the guy who changed the game there.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Exactly.

You ask 100 knowledgable football fans who they would rather have in their "Prime"... Drew Bledsoe or Warren Moon?

I would bet easily 7 out of 10 would take Moon.
Moon also erased some very serious barriers. They were coming down, but he obliterated what was left of them.
 

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Nors said:
Excellent point - Moon was the losing QB in the biggest CHOKE in NFL playoff history!


That accomplishment aside,
Other than the color of their skins - very similar QB's.
Whoever wants to play that card - put Doug Williams in. He was the guy who changed the game there.


HAHAHAHA!!! Good one Nors!!
 

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Nors said:
Excellent point - Moon was the losing QB in the biggest CHOKE in NFL playoff history!


That accomplishment aside,
Other than the color of their skins - very similar QB's.
Whoever wants to play that card - put Doug Williams in. He was the guy who changed the game there.

Similar sure...

But Moon is a couple notches above.
 

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Add Dan Fouts as another QB as reference point for Drew's Hall admission point


Nice Super Bowl win with Parcells and Dallas and there is no discussion as its then mute.
 

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Nors said:
Excellent point - Moon was the losing QB in the biggest CHOKE in NFL playoff history!

That accomplishment aside,
Other than the color of their skins - very similar QB's.
Whoever wants to play that card - put Doug Williams in. He was the guy who changed the game there.

Moon won 5 freaking Grey cups in the CFL. That of course was taken into consideration. If he was in the NFL instead during those prime years instead, he would be the ALL TIME passing leader in the NFL.

Bledsoe could not hold Moons jockstrap.
 
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