Is Eli Regressing?

[vicjagger]

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[Fan Since 77]

It depends on the rotation of the graph

 

[Tuna Helper]

In order to regress, you have to have played at a very high level at some point on a consistent basis.

Eli has never consistently played at a high level, so he hasn't regressed.

He is merely showing that he got the wrong gene, and Peyton got the right one.

 

[Manster68]

Okay vic, now show Tony Romo's?

You would have to get another chart - one that goes over 120.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I don't really believe so.....football is in the Manning name.

 

[dbair1967]

In order to regress, you have to have played at a very high level at some point on a consistent basis.

Eli has never consistently played at a high level, so he hasn't regressed.

He is merely showing that he got the wrong gene, and Peyton got the right one.

I agree with TH...he was never more than average anyway


David

 

[superpunk]

Unless you (and by you, I don't necessarily mean - you) had some misconception that he was ever PROgressing, then no, he's not regressing. He's where he's always been - mediocre and maddeningly inconsistent.

 

[Doomsday]

In order to regress, you have to have played at a very high level at some point on a consistent basis.

Eli has never consistently played at a high level, so he hasn't regressed.

He is merely showing that he got the wrong gene, and Peyton got the right one.

I agree he has had a few big moments and shown some flashes and there but he is what he is. Mediocre!

 

[chinch]

i don't think he's regressed because he's been very mediocre from the get go.

all that's happened is Toomer is hurt and the "chuck it up and let WR jump" play is being better defended since C- level QBs like Rex, Eli, Delhomme, etc. were totally overusing the play.

 

[vicjagger]

Okay vic, now show Tony Romo's?

You would have to get another chart - one that goes over 120.

I started w/ the Giants game. He scored a 158.3 in mop-up duty the week before, but only threw 2 passes.

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[Aikbach]

I started w/ the Giants game. He scored a 158.3 in mop-up duty the week before, but only threw 2 passes.

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Looks like the Nasdaq.

 

[HighTechDave]

I started w/ the Giants game. He scored a 158.3 in mop-up duty the week before, but only threw 2 passes.

http://img269.*************/img269/2125/romoelirt0.png

The NFL included that in the passer ratings

 

[H4power]

I think it kind of goes like Parcell's beleives in .....It would of served him better to waite a yr or two instead of rushing him in. Look at Rivers , Romo..ect..I still think he'll be good but not this yr..

 

[vicjagger]

The NFL included that in the passer ratings

True.

Also worth noting, Eli's best game this year was week #2 at Philly, when he earned a 111.7 rating. Romo's total for the 7 games he's played is 110.8.

:laugh2:

 

[31smackdown]

I think what you are seeing is that the Giants lost their starting left Tackle... Regardless of how average you might think Petitgot(sp?) is.. both the running game and the pass protection has suffered.. Eli is much less accurate when on the run.. he also lost Toomer who is a solid player. Burress is almost like a Randy Moss in his occasional lack of effort, his route running ability, etc.. he doesn't always complete the play which frustrates Eli who tries to put the ball out there for Burress to make a play.

The real question here is Shockey.. and why they aren't throwing to him more..

Teams are doubling Burress and taking away the Tiki screen... Eli has to look somewhere else.. and the other receivers have to step up for him to succeed.

So I don't think that it's neccessarily regressing, but I don't know that Eli is at the point yet that he can make plays on his own... like a McNabb. I think he runs the offense and then when things don't go exactly as scripted he's still very much learning..

 

[HighTechDave]

True.

Also worth noting, Eli's best game this year was week #2 at Philly, when he earned a 111.7 rating. Romo's total for the 7 games he's played is 110.8.

:laugh2:

that is greatness!

I'm still worried which Giants will show up. The coin Flip and first possession could be critical for the Cowboys

 

[Aikbach]

NY will come out firing, may even score first but then they'll run out of gas and get thumped on their ......

 

[JD_KaPow]

NY will come out firing, may even score first but then they'll run out of gas and get thumped on their ......

I think that's right. The Cowboys just need to weather the storm.

 

[sjordan6]

I think that's right. The Cowboys just need to weather the storm.

Guys there will be no storm! I mean am I the only one that can see this?

The Giants are simply not that good! I have watch these guys play and there are only two games that I will give them credit for winning. The comeback win against Philly ( which was over until the meltdown by Philly) and the Atlanta win ( the only true display of their defense and the exposure of the soap fingers of the falcon receivers). Let's check on common opponents.

Giants Result
Indy

 

[sjordan6]

I think that's right. The Cowboys just need to weather the storm.

Guys there will be no storm! I mean am I the only one that can see this?

The Giants are simply not that good! I have watch these guys play and there are only two games that I will give them credit for winning. The comeback win against Philly ( which was over until the meltdown by Philly) and the Atlanta win ( the only true display of their defense and the exposure of the soap fingers of the falcon receivers). Let's check on common opponents.

Giants Result Score
Indy Loss 26-21
(statistically one of Eli's better games, they just loss to a better team)

Philly Won 30-24
(Eli's best game of the season but this game was more about the Philly meltdown)

Commanders Won 19-3
(Defense played great but offense struggled. First game after bye week)

Tampa Bay Won 17-3
(Defensse played great again. Bucs offense fumbled 6 times. Offense 143 yard passing)

Houston Won 14-10
(Was trailing until the last minutes of the game.)

Jacksonville Loss 26-10
(Probably the worst game of the season for the Giants. Offense was a non-factor).

Tennessee Loss 24-21
(Totol meltdown loss against a lesser opponent. Eli throws two 4th ints to set up loss)


Cowboys

Indy Win 21-14
(Romo wins the battle of the NFL's top rated qb and ends Indy's unbeaten streak)

Philly Loss 38-24
(Bledsoe!)

Commanders Win 27-10
(Cowboys win with Bledsoe but defense shuts down their top receiver)

Tennessee Win 45-14
(Cowboys dominate on both sided of the ball)

Houston Win 34-6
(Bledsoe stuggles to move offense in first half, but team pulls away in the second half. Get first glimpse of Romo)

Tampa Bay Win 38-10
(Romo throw 5 tds and defense dominates. Overall team win)

Jacksonville Loss 24-17
(Bledsoe throw 3 picks)



My point of comparison is we have dominated common opponents while the Giants have struggled. Even in our losses it was more because of our mistakes than the other teams dominance. The Giants will lose because they are simply not that good.

Again they defense can be o.k. but our offense can and will score on them.

I will be back on Sunday night to tell you i told you so!