Is Front Office Complacent?

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OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
We traded for Pickens we didn't sign him, if we signed him we'd hear people like me stop complaining saying he's only a 1 year rental
 
We as fans are so used to this Cowboys front office sitting on its hands during FA, when they actually do make just a few moves we are so thrilled that it wasn’t nothing, we tend to overrate it.

This off-season has been way better than 2024. But last year’s off-season was so bad there was no place to go but better. Huge holes remain at DT, RB and perhaps LB. This FO hasn’t done enough but it is better than what we usually get.
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
I don't really understand what you're saying you act like that's all they did,

I know it doesn't seem like much but they brought in a backup quarterback, CB, those were trades, I know you're not going to give much credit to it ,but it still was being conscious not complacent, They brought in other free agents, don't discount that...

I believe the linebacker room is better than it was the last couple of years in my mind it is even without Overshown, but when he comes back this might be the best linebacker room we've had in a decade,

they literally have brought in so many free agents, I wouldn't even be able to list all the stuff they've done, I know they're not the names you like but it seems to me they fit a vision that locks in with the draft the free agents and now the trades they all are kind of dirction a plan.. We are not privy to all this but I'm telling you all of it together does not show complacency it looks like they filled a lot of holes and they're trying to give the new coaches players to help get the new schemes on track..

By the way this is far more than we expected this offseason all of it that now we got George Pickens now the fans are completely not happy because now they need more when the trade happened everybody was ecstatic and now they're going well why stop there we need everything they must be complacent you guys will never be happy...

Completely understand where it's coming from and maybe at cut downs there's gonna be other players added and subtracted and this is not over but any big names coming in that remains to be seen but right now acting like they've only done one thing this offseason is insane..​
You're asking for far too much from this front office this trade for George Pickens and all the other things they've done this offseason was far more than anybody expected they now expect me more it's just being selfish in my opinion or you're just living in fantasyland..​
I believe what they're doing is literally let's let all these camps happen let's let get through camps and let's see what we actually have and what might be missing they want to give all these young players and first year players a chance to actually show something before they see what their new list might look like like I said when roster cut downs happen trades happen things might happen before the season they might bring in Gilmore or Hilton they might even bring in the Nick Chubb be still around but they want to see right now with the roster they put together how they perform in organized practices and not the early ones we need to get into training camp and have everyone available and then you can start judging them that's what they're doing you guys are getting way ahead of this..​
Don't make me go full Jason Garrett it's a process I think they want to see what they brought in so far is going to do when things get heated and get serious and that's not now training camps not even till July twenty-third or whenever it is so let's calm down and be patient and let's see what this looks like before you say that they're doing nothing and they've gotten complacent now I don't think they have gotten complacent...​
They're now in a holding pattern they need to see what they have put together what looks like and that's not happening this week this OTA stuff heart the whole team is not there it's voluntary we need to get into real training camp..​
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
I think they are but I thought they were and boom they traded for Pickens. Maybe they are waiting for bigger names to be post June 1st cuts.
 
Of course they are. That's why Stephen put the "drought" in air quotes.

In his mind, they're doing an absolutely great job, and have for at least the last 10 years. Last year was just a bad injury situation in his mind.
I don’t think he believes that. I think they intentionally gave Mike less weapons I just don’t know why yet lol
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
Is the FO, of a team that has won nothing of substance in almost 30 years yet typically makes no significant moves in FA, complacent?

If you are honestly asking this question then i recommend going back to sleep
 
100%....We are still suffering from the fallout of 2024s complacency. Its not been an awful offseason this year, but we still see major roster red flags because of our "all in" year.
That was always gonna happen though wasn’t it? If we went all in last year we wouldn’t have done what we’ve done this year? We don’t get Pickens and Fowler this year.
 
Here is a list of signings after June 1 last offseason....There just isnt a lot available this time of year that is going to make a huge impact. Aside from some camp bodies and older vets you hope can give you the last few ounces of football they have left its just a bunch of guys without much upside.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/_/start/2024-06-02/end/2024-08-30/type/signed-fa

Trades are always an option, but how many teams are looking to sell players now? Typically teams are not selling quality players right now, and were more aggressive in looking at the trade market pre draft. Certainly possible, just not likely.
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
I wouldn't say they're complacent this offseason, last year sure felt that way.

LB: Traded for Kenneth Murphy, signed Sanborn, drafted James. That's 3 guys they added to the LB room. Like the room a lot better with Overshown.

S: Yeah you can say complacent here, but I think between Wilson, Hooker, Thomas, Bell, and Muku they didn't really need to add.

CB: Love the Revel pick, the Elam trade definitely added more competition to the room. Still some questions, but can't say they didn't address it.

DT: Re-signed Osa, signed Thomas, drafted Toia in the 7th round. Don't think they did enough here.
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
Do we really have any needs at those positions? Or is it fans perceptions? All teams have needs at most every positions.

RB - There is a new group of RB's, and they have potential. They look far better than any group over the past 2 or 3 years. And they have not played a down yet as a group. But yet they look better.

DT - a wait and see group, but is it as void of talent as many fans believe. I will wait and see though, before I say yes.

CB - I can see one saying they need CB's. But do they. Especially once revel and Diggs are 100%. Depth ot start the season is the real issue.

S - I think they are good here. It is just some do not like Wilson and Hooker. They have a solid group.

LB - another wait and see. But if Overshown was 100%, this group looks a lot better. But I like the changes and it too looks far better than what Quinn put out there, using S's as LB's.

So they don't have a stud at any of those positions. But who is out there to get, without trading away the next 2 years worth of picks.
 
That was always gonna happen though wasn’t it? If we went all in last year we wouldn’t have done what we’ve done this year? We don’t get Pickens and Fowler this year.
The issue is they could have done something....anything last year to actually help improve the roster aside from 1 year cheap rentals. I mean we talk about trading for a guy like DJ Reader on here....how nice would it have been to have just signed him a year ago?

Despite the busier offseason this year we still have $30+Million in cap space available, and have spent less than $20M in guaranteed money in free agency. There has been a decent amount to applaud this offseason for sure, but I struggle with the idea that they couldnt have done more either this year or last offseason. It still reeks of ownerships refusal to dip into their pockets and spend some cash.
 
Do we really have any needs at those positions? Or is it fans perceptions? All teams have needs at most every positions.

RB - There is a new group of RB's, and they have potential. They look far better than any group over the past 2 or 3 years. And they have not played a down yet as a group. But yet they look better.

DT - a wait and see group, but is it as void of talent as many fans believe. I will wait and see though, before I say yes.

CB - I can see one saying they need CB's. But do they. Especially once revel and Diggs are 100%. Depth ot start the season is the real issue.

S - I think they are good here. It is just some do not like Wilson and Hooker. They have a solid group.

LB - another wait and see. But if Overshown was 100%, this group looks a lot better. But I like the changes and it too looks far better than what Quinn put out there, using S's as LB's.

So they don't have a stud at any of those positions. But who is out there to get, without trading away the next 2 years worth of picks.
I don’t think the needs go to that extent, but I’m personally ok with the RB approach and what’s at CB, while most aren’t.

Safety will become an issue before long, but it’s acceptable for now.

LB isn’t great but there’s some potential there and talent in the room.

They have one big problem and it’s the same one as it’s been for quite some time now….up the gut vs the run. It’s arguably worse and will absolutely be exploited by the better OCs….again. Come March, they will do nothing to fix that…again. No reason at all to believe that will change.
 
I wouldn't say they're complacent this offseason, last year sure felt that way.

LB: Traded for Kenneth Murphy, signed Sanborn, drafted James. That's 3 guys they added to the LB room. Like the room a lot better with Overshown.

S: Yeah you can say complacent here, but I think between Wilson, Hooker, Thomas, Bell, and Muku they didn't really need to add.

CB: Love the Revel pick, the Elam trade definitely added more competition to the room. Still some questions, but can't say they didn't address it.

DT: Re-signed Osa, signed Thomas, drafted Toia in the 7th round. Don't think they did enough here.
Exactly and that's just touching on some of the moves they made this off season, They brought in quite a bit of depth for the offensive line and competition at offensive line...

They brought other undrafted players in ,they're probably going to bring more from the UFL it's not over but yeah, I don't understand where this comes from that they're complacent, this is one of the busiest offseasons in long while...

It looks like they've also looked into other trades but whatever all this has happened free agency trades to draft it all seems to fit together what are you saying it leads to an outsider like they have a vision a plan and these are supposed to help that...

I know people think this is all bargain bin trades and bargain basement deals for a free agents but that's not how I'm seeing it there's some quality players brought in here even if it is for a good price I mean didn't the Eagles do this last year with the linebacker who turned out to be a pro bowler he never did that in his career but he was there bargaining bin basement guy and it worked out pretty well...
 
OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?
They signed more players than just Pickens. They addressed a lot of their depth issues as well as a #1 RB.
 

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