Is Front Office Complacent?

[Gambit]

Right now? Sure, but so are most teams. Kind of a dead space time. But they've shown to be anything but all off-season long.

 

[Pass2Run]

I don't really understand what you're saying you act like that's all they did,

I know it doesn't seem like much but they brought in a backup quarterback, CB, those were trades, I know you're not going to give much credit to it ,but it still was being conscious not complacent, They brought in other free agents, don't discount that...

I believe the linebacker room is better than it was the last couple of years in my mind it is even without Overshown, but when he comes back this might be the best linebacker room we've had in a decade,

they literally have brought in so many free agents, I wouldn't even be able to list all the stuff they've done, I know they're not the names you like but it seems to me they fit a vision that locks in with the draft the free agents and now the trades they all are kind of dirction a plan.. We are not privy to all this but I'm telling you all of it together does not show complacency it looks like they filled a lot of holes and they're trying to give the new coaches players to help get the new schemes on track..

By the way this is far more than we expected this offseason all of it that now we got George Pickens now the fans are completely not happy because now they need more when the trade happened everybody was ecstatic and now they're going well why stop there we need everything they must be complacent you guys will never be happy...

Completely understand where it's coming from and maybe at cut downs there's gonna be other players added and subtracted and this is not over but any big names coming in that remains to be seen but right now acting like they've only done one thing this offseason is insane..​

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You're asking for far too much from this front office this trade for George Pickens and all the other things they've done this offseason was far more than anybody expected they now expect me more it's just being selfish in my opinion or you're just living in fantasyland..​

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I believe what they're doing is literally let's let all these camps happen let's let get through camps and let's see what we actually have and what might be missing they want to give all these young players and first year players a chance to actually show something before they see what their new list might look like like I said when roster cut downs happen trades happen things might happen before the season they might bring in Gilmore or Hilton they might even bring in the Nick Chubb be still around but they want to see right now with the roster they put together how they perform in organized practices and not the early ones we need to get into training camp and have everyone available and then you can start judging them that's what they're doing you guys are getting way ahead of this..​

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Don't make me go full Jason Garrett it's a process I think they want to see what they brought in so far is going to do when things get heated and get serious and that's not now training camps not even till July twenty-third or whenever it is so let's calm down and be patient and let's see what this looks like before you say that they're doing nothing and they've gotten complacent now I don't think they have gotten complacent...​

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They're now in a holding pattern they need to see what they have put together what looks like and that's not happening this week this OTA stuff heart the whole team is not there it's voluntary we need to get into real training camp..​

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I only read your first sentence so I'm going to reply to that. I'm saying there's still work to do. This is somewhat of a window of opportunity where doors close on next years players, which will create holes or we end up signing them to contracts that limit our cap for other players.

All I'm saying is they shouldn't do a half assed job on this year's roster because next year we'll have as many holes to fill and so on.

What does our defense have outside of a pass rush? It'd be different if Overshown, Revel, Diggs weren't all going on PUP early on.

Jerry said a couple substantial trades. We only had one. So what happened?

 

[rambo2]

We as fans are so used to this Cowboys front office sitting on its hands during FA, when they actually do make just a few moves we are so thrilled that it wasn’t nothing, we tend to overrate it.

This off-season has been way better than 2024. But last year’s off-season was so bad there was no place to go but better. Huge holes remain at DT, RB and perhaps LB. This FO hasn’t done enough but it is better than what we usually get.

A few moves? I didn't count them, but it seems like they have made more than a few.

The lack of moves last year was intentional.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The issue is they could have done something....anything last year to actually help improve the roster aside from 1 year cheap rentals. I mean we talk about trading for a guy like DJ Reader on here....how nice would it have been to have just signed him a year ago?

Despite the busier offseason this year we still have $30+Million in cap space available, and have spent less than $20M in guaranteed money in free agency. There has been a decent amount to applaud this offseason for sure, but I struggle with the idea that they couldnt have done more either this year or last offseason. It still reeks of ownerships refusal to dip into their pockets and spend some cash.

I agree but they just invested a first rounder in MaMazi. I don’t believe they spend resources on Reader last year but a team serious about contending would’ve done it. Henry and Reader would’ve gone a long way probably have same end result but I respect it as a contender.

 

[gtb1943]

A few moves? I didn't count them, but it seems like they have made more than a few.

The lack of moves last year was intentional.

three or four who might be more than JAGS and the rest wish they were jags impresses you but not most of us

 

[Pass2Run]

I don’t think the needs go to that extent, but I’m personally ok with the RB approach and what’s at CB, while most aren’t.

Safety will become an issue before long, but it’s acceptable for now.

LB isn’t great but there’s some potential there and talent in the room.

They have one big problem and it’s the same one as it’s been for quite some time now….up the gut vs the run. It’s arguably worse and will absolutely be exploited by the better OCs….again. Come March, they will do nothing to fix that…again. No reason at all to believe that will change.

The scheme will help with the run. Unless the players just aren't good at it. But that's one thing I like. I'm not as concerned about DT as much as I am CB to start the season and LB

While I'm at it, TE is still a question mark in Dallas.

 

[blueblood70]

I only read your first sentence so I'm going to reply to that. I'm saying there's still work to do. This is somewhat of a window of opportunity where doors close on next years players, which will create holes or we end up signing them to contracts that limit our cap for other players.

All I'm saying is they shouldn't do a half assed job on this year's roster because next year we'll have as many holes to fill and so on.

What does our defense have outside of a pass rush? It'd be different if Overshown, Revel, Diggs weren't all going on PUP early on.

Jerry said a couple substantial trades. We only had one. So what happened?

Well, that's easy I disagree with what you said they're not being complacent don't read past here I don't care I don't agree with you. the end

Well I'm not going to read past your first sentence and I'm telling you you're getting ahead of yourself it's easy they're going to look what they have in all the camps no progress stoppers let them allow what they've brought in to compete and if they seem fit they will bring in others that's the answer to your question it's not a concern right now they're not being complacent they want to see how the new players mix in that is it..

Not the first one to say that they literally get a lot more than you think up to this point and apparently when they make way more moves than last year and they've actually done an admiral job in the Aussies and you come in and say you know what they're being complacent they haven't done enough no it'll never be enough with fans that they have a business to run so don't read what I'm saying but also don't start post that you're looking for only one answer as to agree with you and I disagree...

 

[gtb1943]

Well, that's easy I disagree with what you said they're not being complacent don't read past here I don't care I don't agree with you. the end

Well I'm not going to read past your first sentence and I'm telling you you're getting ahead of yourself it's easy they're going to look what they have in all the camps no progress stoppers let them allow what they've brought in to compete and if they seem fit they will bring in others that's the answer to your question it's not a concern right now they're not being complacent they want to see how the new players mix in that is it..

Not the first one to say that they literally get a lot more than you think up to this point and apparently when they make way more moves than last year and they've actually done an admiral job in the Aussies and you come in and say you know what they're being complacent they haven't done enough no it'll never be enough with fans that they have a business to run so don't read what I'm saying but also don't start post that you're looking for only one answer as to agree with you and I disagree...

you expect all to read your opus drivels but will not read anyone else's?
hypocrisy much?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?

They were complacement last year when they hardly signed any FAs.

This year was the complete opposite. Although they are still not paying big money...they still traded for players, signed multiple FAs and had a large number of draft picks.

They learned that after the backlash of last year and the infamous we are all in lines that they were not going to do that again....at least not this year.

 

[Pass2Run]

I wouldn't say they're complacent this offseason, last year sure felt that way.

LB: Traded for Kenneth Murphy, signed Sanborn, drafted James. That's 3 guys they added to the LB room. Like the room a lot better with Overshown.

S: Yeah you can say complacent here, but I think between Wilson, Hooker, Thomas, Bell, and Muku they didn't really need to add.

CB: Love the Revel pick, the Elam trade definitely added more competition to the room. Still some questions, but can't say they didn't address it.

DT: Re-signed Osa, signed Thomas, drafted Toia in the 7th round. Don't think they did enough here.

I'm saying that they think all of what you mention is enough. I think it might not be.

It looks great on paper, but then you realize Overshown is out, Revel and Diggs likely take some time to fully heal.

The pass rush helps, but there are still ways to make improvements.

You'd think Jerry would have more sense of urgency.

 

[Pass2Run]

They were complacement last year when they hardly signed any FAs.

This year was the complete opposite. Although they are still not paying big money...they still traded for players, signed multiple FAs and had a large number of draft picks.

They learned that after the backlash of last year and the infamous we are all in lines that they were not going to do that again....at least not this year.

I don't mean complacent this off-season. I mean, did they get a bit complacent after the Pickens trade?

I know you understood. I'm familiar with all of their moves, picks, signings etc.

I just wonder if they're still trying to improve the roster or if they think it's enough now.

 

[blueblood70]

I'm saying that they think all of what you mention is enough. I think it might not be.

It looks great on paper, but then you realize Overshown is out, Revel and Diggs likely take some time to fully heal.

The pass rush helps, but there are still ways to make improvements.

You'd think Jerry would have more sense of urgency.

There's a big difference between what you said it might not be enough and complacency that is why we have training camp and preseason games let this new staff evaluate their new team see how they're competing and if they need more and they know they need more they'll go to Jerry and say we need something else you're probably right they might need a Gilmore or a Hilton and that may be coming but that doesn't make them not complacent at this point they are in a wait and see holding pattern until they see what they actually have in players on the team..

How do we know that Elam Hall and Carson and then when Butler gets back maybe even Troy Pride how do you know who they are until they actually compete for the job I get that and I agree we may need to add a corner that is the biggest hole on this team because of the big question mark with injuries but they're not being complacent they actually did inquire about making a trade for me to describe what Jalen Ramsey so they talked about it they even brought in Gilmore you're saying they're complacent that's the wrong word yes it might not be enough but we won't know that if you let this process play out then it's possible you're going to see more moves made but I wouldn't call what they've done up to this point complacent...

 

[75boyz]

Yes, they are.
Among other things.

 

[blueblood70]

I don't mean complacent this off-season. I mean, did they get a bit complacent after the Pickens trade?

I know you understood. I'm familiar with all of their moves, picks, signings etc.

I just wonder if they're still trying to improve the roster or if they think it's enough now.

How about give them I don't know maybe till mid to late August at some point and see how they're evaluating what they have and possibly bringing in more people you know a lot of moves are made after cut downs right teams either trade players trying not to lose out or they cut them and you can find good players being cut...

Just maybe they're waiting to turn the bottom of their roster whenever the cut downs come and then they can make further moves and additions I mean the June 1st thing just came right so maybe something happens in the next couple weeks that they may have sitting on their desk and we don't know I just think you chose the word incorrectly they're not being complacent but they're in a holding pattern right now...

 

[Johannes44]

The FO builds a team without understanding what they have. They have inflated the offense once again thinking that they have someone under center who can actually utilize what is added, when in reality they should be concentrating on bolstering defense because the only way this thing makes any noise in the playoffs is for the defense to hold opponents to historical lows in scoring.

 

[shabazz]

OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?

I wouldn't use the word "complacent"

Complacency should only apply to those that have actually achieved a high level of sucess in this current century

Some here point to " they've brought in all these new players".....take a moment to dissect the level of " all these new players"

With rare exception of the Pickens aquisition, how many are All Pros? Pro Bowlers? Starters? 1st Rd Busts? Jags?

I would substitute complacent for, inept stubborn, inflexible, non-introspective, rigid, incompetent.....well, you get the point, old boy.

 

[75boyz]

The FO builds a team without understanding what they have. They have inflated the offense once again thinking that they have someone under center who can actually utilize what is added, when in reality they should be concentrating on bolstering defense because the only way this thing makes any noise in the playoffs is for the defense to hold opponents to historical lows in scoring.

Exactly.
And then when those "historical lows in scoring" are the defensive standard, the offense is given a free pass to suck/ not pull their weight.

And then followed by all the blame it on the defense posts to follow.
The CowboysZone way.

 

[BKBDAD]

OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?

OK, we signed Pickens. I like it.

We had what looks like a good draft. I like that too

We still have needs at LB, S, CB, DT and maybe RB.

Do the Cowboys think signing Pickens was enough? Jerry was talking about a couple substantial trades.

We only made one. The roster looks better but it isn't complete.

Will they make any more key moves or did signing Pickens make them overly confident and complacent about signing or trading for other key upgrades?

Maybe but there aren't many quality Free Agents left out there. The top RB's include J.K. Dobbins who I think would be the only RB they would think of. Nick Chubb is beat up and as of late often injured, Gus Edwards, Cam Akers, Jeff Wilson, D'Onta Foreman etc. don't really bring anything the Boys already have. The best WR's out there are Omari Cooper, Keenan Allen but they are getting up there in age and the Boys don't need older, slowing down veterans. Gabe Davis maybe again but he doesn't move our needle much either. TE's left aren't great either as well as lineman on both sides of the ball from what I see. I could be missing someone however so pleas comment. A TRADE is most likely the best way to find someone else and that may happen as we get further down the road in the OTA's.
I have been so excited in years past and then let down miserably when the Boys miss or go out early in the playoffs, but this year no one believes the Cowboys will be very good which hopefully will work to their advantage and they surprise the heck out of everyone, including me!
SO AS ALWAYS, GO COWBOYS!!!

 

[Pass2Run]

There's a big difference between what you said it might not be enough and complacency that is why we have training camp and preseason games let this new staff evaluate their new team see how they're competing and if they need more and they know they need more they'll go to Jerry and say we need something else you're probably right they might need a Gilmore or a Hilton and that may be coming but that doesn't make them not complacent at this point they are in a wait and see holding pattern until they see what they actually have in players on the team..

How do we know that Elam Hall and Carson and then when Butler gets back maybe even Troy Pride how do you know who they are until they actually compete for the job I get that and I agree we may need to add a corner that is the biggest hole on this team because of the big question mark with injuries but they're not being complacent they actually did inquire about making a trade for me to describe what Jalen Ramsey so they talked about it they even brought in Gilmore you're saying they're complacent that's the wrong word yes it might not be enough but we won't know that if you let this process play out then it's possible you're going to see more moves made but I wouldn't call what they've done up to this point complacent...

Im going off of what I get a sense of. I feel they may be a tad bit complacent and need to keep all reasonable options open for this roster.

I think Gilmore would be smart for now, though. But you'd want him at camp at some point.

 

[Pass2Run]

Maybe but there aren't many quality Free Agents left out there. The top RB's include J.K. Dobbins who I think would be the only RB they would think of. Nick Chubb is beat up and as of late often injured, Gus Edwards, Cam Akers, Jeff Wilson, D'Onta Foreman etc. don't really bring anything the Boys already have. The best WR's out there are Omari Cooper, Keenan Allen but they are getting up there in age and the Boys don't need older, slowing down veterans. Gabe Davis maybe again but he doesn't move our needle much either. TE's left aren't great either as well as lineman on both sides of the ball from what I see. I could be missing someone however so pleas comment. A TRADE is most likely the best way to find someone else and that may happen as we get further down the road in the OTA's.
I have been so excited in years past and then let down miserably when the Boys miss or go out early in the playoffs, but this year no one believes the Cowboys will be very good which hopefully will work to their advantage and they surprise the heck out of everyone, including me!
SO AS ALWAYS, GO COWBOYS!!!

Funny you say this. I was actually thinking about Aaron Shampklin, who got called up from the Steelers' PS last year.

I liked him when we signed him UDFA.