Is Jerry Jones the new Al Davis?

[mr.jameswoods]

Al Davis was a genius and an innovator. He was arguably one of the greatest NFL owners. But we all saw how Al declined as an owner and the last 10 years of his tenure was truly an embarrassment to their organization. The fundamental problem with Al Davis is he had to do it his way and that stubborn nature ultimately hurt his team. Do you see Jerry Jones going down this same path? On some level, I have come to accept this. I think Jerry has wonderful intentions and is a passionate owner, but he has to win his way and I think that notion is costing this team. I think there will be years where we will get lucky and have some strong years but overall, we are going to see more of the same. His insistence on maintaining Jason Garrett is his way of trying to prove everyone wrong when Garrett has been a failure as well as his other coaching choices (remember Dave Campo). He also lacks the patience to build this team properly electing instead for flashy players instead of solid offensive lineman. I still respect Jerry for what he has done but I view him as someone who is past his prime. I certainly hope I'm wrong and if Jerry brings us success, I will be happy to recant this statement but I just perceive "Al Davis" when I see Jerry now which means nothing can really improve.

 

[newlander]

Al Davis was a genius and an innovator. He was arguably one of the greatest NFL owners. But we all saw how Al declined as an owner and the last 10 years of his tenure was truly an embarrassment to their organization. The fundamental problem with Al Davis is he had to do it his way and that stubborn nature ultimately hurt his team. Do you see Jerry Jones going down this same path? On some level, I have come to accept this. I think Jerry has wonderful intentions and is a passionate owner, but he has to win his way and I think that notion is costing this team. I think there will be years where we will get lucky and have some strong years but overall, we are going to see more of the same. His insistence on maintaining Jason Garrett is his way of trying to prove everyone wrong when Garrett has been a failure as well as his other coaching choices (remember Dave Campo). He also lacks the patience to build this team properly electing instead for flashy players instead of solid offensive lineman. I still respect Jerry for what he has done but I view him as someone who is past his prime. I certainly hope I'm wrong and if Jerry brings us success, I will be happy to recant this statement but I just perceive "Al Davis" when I see Jerry now which means nothing can really improve.

........you're just NOW coming to this conclusion? I hope all the other cowboy fans and media aren't slow learners like you. On the other hand: better late than never. I've been calling him Al Davis Jr. for THREE years now: wake up people...the billionaire bumpkin is out of answers. Demand better: the skins fans/media did and lil' napoleon hired a real GM....and look what's happened.

 

[Boysathelm]

........you're just NOW coming to this conclusion? I hope all the other cowboy fans and media aren't slow learners like you. On the other hand: better late than never. I've been calling him Al Davis Jr. for THREE years now: wake up people...the billionaire bumpkin is out of answers. Demand better: the skins fans/media did and lil' napoleon hired a real GM....and look what's happened.

The problem with this comparison is that Snyder was running out of things to blame, and he doesn't have 3 Super Bowl rings to legitimize (in his mind) or encourage his hands-on approach.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

........you're just NOW coming to this conclusion? I hope all the other cowboy fans and media aren't slow learners like you. On the other hand: better late than never. I've been calling him Al Davis Jr. for THREE years now: wake up people...the billionaire bumpkin is out of answers. Demand better: the skins fans/media did and lil' napoleon hired a real GM....and look what's happened.

I was calling out Jerry Jones 11 years ago on this forum when you weren't even a member and back then people still disputed the Jimmy Johnson won concept and still defended Jerry. You don't hear much of that any longer. And Al Davis senility is a different level of insanity.

 

[TNCowboy]

Al Davis was a genius and an innovator. He was arguably one of the greatest NFL owners. But we all saw how Al declined as an owner and the last 10 years of his tenure was truly an embarrassment to their organization. The fundamental problem with Al Davis is he had to do it his way and that stubborn nature ultimately hurt his team. Do you see Jerry Jones going down this same path? On some level, I have come to accept this. I think Jerry has wonderful intentions and is a passionate owner, but he has to win his way and I think that notion is costing this team. I think there will be years where we will get lucky and have some strong years but overall, we are going to see more of the same. His insistence on maintaining Jason Garrett is his way of trying to prove everyone wrong when Garrett has been a failure as well as his other coaching choices (remember Dave Campo). He also lacks the patience to build this team properly electing instead for flashy players instead of solid offensive lineman. I still respect Jerry for what he has done but I view him as someone who is past his prime. I certainly hope I'm wrong and if Jerry brings us success, I will be happy to recant this statement but I just perceive "Al Davis" when I see Jerry now which means nothing can really improve.

For some reason I thought you were banned.

Yes, he's in Al Davis territory, though none of Jones' idiocy can be blamed on dementia.

If Jones can't win while proclaiming himself GM, he'd rather not win.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I think this conclusion has been established...

 

[Venger]

I hope so. Let's go get a shovel...

 

[mr.jameswoods]

The problem with this comparison is that Snyder was running out of things to blame, and he doesn't have 3 Super Bowl rings to legitimize (in his mind) or encourage his hands-on approach.

Snyder has not been successful but Snyder has been more open minded in his approach. He has tried every approach and if one approach fails, he isn't stubborn and is willing to try a different way to win. The trade for RGIII was incredibly risky and people were referring to it as Herschell Walker part two.

I don't think people fault Jerry for being a risk taker but they do fault him for failing to learn from his mistakes.

 

[RGIII]

Jerry Jones needs to do what Snyder did.

a] hire a GM
b] find a new head coach
c] stay in the owners box, let the GM and coach rebuild/plug holes and write the checks.

But, from the interview I saw a while back with Jerry Jones, he pretty much said he doesn't ever see himself giving up the GM duties and hiring someone. Which is fine by me. I hope he never hires a GM and extends Romo another 5 years

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

I don't spend time hating on the Commanders, Iggles, Giants, Steelers, etc - our greatest adversary of all time is an owner bent on playing fantasy football until the moniker "America's Team" and it's following is past tense. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Isn't being the Old Jerry Jones enough????

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

A little late to the party, are we? The ONLY reason Jerry Jones ever won anything is that he had enough smarts/luck to hire Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy made all of the talent acquisition calls that allowed us to win 3 SBs.

It was when Jerry started taking credit for what Jimmy was doing that Jimmy left. Once HE left, there was no one to keep Jerry from the delusion that HE somehow had the rare gift to evaluate talent. Once he started competing against the Ozzie Newsomes & Bill Bellichecks of the NFL, JJ got in WAY over his head, and the Cowboys have been exactly .500 since 1995.

It looks like the Cleveland Browns may let GM Tom Heckert go. If so, I pray Jerry is incapacitated for a short while for some reason, & his son Stephen hires Heckert. I live in NE Ohio, & I've seen Heckert take the Browns from an old, broken down team to a young, talented one in three years. They are very close to becoming a winner because of Heckert. They had 7 sacks against the Cowboys & came very close to beating us. I would love to see Heckert have a go at making the Cowboys winners again.

 

[cajuncocoa]

The similarities between Davis and Jones are too numerous to count.

The main difference can be found in your first two sentences:

Al Davis was a genius and an innovator. He was arguably one of the greatest NFL owners.

 

[Gameover]

Did Jerry Jones throw three interceptions?

Did Jerry Jones lock in on Dez Bryant all night and ignore his other receivers?

Did Jerry Jones committ a stupid roughing the passer penalty?

I missed when Jerry was the cause of all of this.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Yes and both the Raiders and our team's best player is a kicker

 

[DBOY3141]

Did Jerry Jones throw three interceptions?

Did Jerry Jones lock in on Dez Bryant all night and ignore his other receivers?

Did Jerry Jones committ a stupid roughing the passer penalty?

I missed when Jerry was the cause of all of this.

Nope but Jerry was responsible for acquiring those players, who do those actions over and over and over again.

 

[Gameover]

Nope but Jerry was responsible for acquiring those players, who do those actions over and over and over again.

Are you saying we need to get rid of Romo?

 

[StylisticS]

Jerry Jones needs to do what Snyder did.

a] hire a GM
b] find a new head coach
c] stay in the owners box, let the GM and coach rebuild/plug holes and write the checks.

But, from the interview I saw a while back with Jerry Jones, he pretty much said he doesn't ever see himself giving up the GM duties and hiring someone. Which is fine by me. I hope he never hires a GM and extends Romo another 5 years

What is up with these trolls that register here and add nothing to the board?

 

[trueblue1687]

........you're just NOW coming to this conclusion? I hope all the other cowboy fans and media aren't slow learners like you. On the other hand: better late than never. I've been calling him Al Davis Jr. for THREE years now: wake up people...the billionaire bumpkin is out of answers. Demand better: the skins fans/media did and lil' napoleon hired a real GM....and look what's happened.

you're really out of touch if you think that fans/media drive any of these owner's decisions. It's about MONEY. Take you for example: even though you're in the "Jerry, fire thyself" camp...you're still riveted to these boards, watching the games, maybe buying a jersey or two?? It doesn't matter how much you *****, it's the OWNER'S business...not ours. All we can do is lament decisions and guzzle beer while watching...then jump on these boards and tell everyone how we would do it differently, and if only we were calling the shots, we'd be Superbowl bound every year. Snyder hired someone as GM because that's how HE does it. Most of the other owners (read the Rooneys and Maras) have teams as a hobby...teams that were built with someone elses money and work (their Da-Das)....it's old money. Jones made all of his money himself. He can do with it what he wants. Of course, nobody ever considers that the team was forsale when he bought it. They could have used their millions and took all the risk and purchased it themselves, huh?

 

[Doomsday]

No, at one point Al was actually a good Gm, who built a championship team. Jerry has never and will never do so.

Yes, Al got old and the game passed him by but Jerry has never and will never know what it takes to build an actual team. Yes he can find talent but who cares, you have to build pieces that work together.