Is QB Rating useless?

[DaBoys4Life]

That's because most of the rest are still playing.

yea but if you look at the other list that were posted none of those QB had a QB rating above 85.

 

[theogt]

yea but if you look at the other list that were posted none of those QB had a QB rating above 85.

But how did their QB ratings compare to other QBs during their era?

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

It's cause he played smart and conservative. Exactly what a bad offense needs in a QB.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

But how did their QB ratings compare to other QBs during their era?

so what you're saying is that the QB ratings of these players where the highest while they we're playing and before the league became so pass happy and started making rules to benefit the offense and such.

I wonder what that has to do with 3 QB in the HoF having a QB rating higher than 85 %.

 

[theogt]

so what you're saying is that the QB ratings of these players where the highest while they we're playing and before the league became so pass happy and started making rules to benefit the offense and such.

I wonder what that has to do with 3 QB in the HoF having a QB rating higher than 85 %.

You got it.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

It's cause he played smart and conservative. Exactly what a bad offense needs in a QB.

IDK if you call that smart he was throwing 3 yards when they needed 7.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

IDK if you call that smart he was throwing 3 yards when they needed 7.

The game stayed close because he limited turn overs and played safe. Gotta know when your not holding the cards.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The game stayed close because he limited turn overs and played safe. Gotta know when your not holding the cards.

If you play it better safe than sorry your going to end up sorry. That was a sorry display of offense by the Commanders.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

If you play it better safe than sorry your going to end up sorry. That was a sorry display of offense by the Commanders.

I agree with that statement completely. I'm simply pointing out why is QB rating was high and the game remained close even though they were clearly out played. Sometimes you just have to hang around long enough and you can steal a few.

 

[Brandon4Cowboys]

an Aikman spin on the passer rating.

"I know the components that go in, but I don't know how it's all spit out," said Troy Aikman, the former Dallas Cowboys star-turned-Fox analyst. "And why is 158.3 the highest rating you can have? Brady had a perfect rating at Miami, when he threw six touchdowns. But to me, a perfect game would be if you completed every pass for a touchdown."

Aikman never won the passing crown dictated by ratings, but he won three Super Bowl rings in four seasons. And with marks ranging from 89.5 to 99.0 during the title years, he produced some pretty good ratings.

"Well, I thought I did," he said Wednesday, laughing. "They would not be very good these days."

Consider that Pennington's 87.5 rating for the season is better than the 84.9 mark that Roger Staubach led the league with in 1978, and it tops Dan Fouts' AFC-best 82.6 rating in 1979. Fouts and Staubach are Hall of Famers.

"When Roger retired in '79, he had the NFL's highest career rating at 83.4," Aikman says. "What it reflects is how much the game has changed."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-10-31-slant-brady_N.htm

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I agree with that statement completely. I'm simply pointing out why is QB rating was high and the game remained close even though they were clearly out played. Sometimes you just have to hang around long enough and you can steal a few.

true they could have stole it if they weren't so bad.

 

[theogt]

an Aikman spin on the passer rating.

"I know the components that go in, but I don't know how it's all spit out," said Troy Aikman, the former Dallas Cowboys star-turned-Fox analyst. "And why is 158.3 the highest rating you can have? Brady had a perfect rating at Miami, when he threw six touchdowns. But to me, a perfect game would be if you completed every pass for a touchdown."

Aikman never won the passing crown dictated by ratings, but he won three Super Bowl rings in four seasons. And with marks ranging from 89.5 to 99.0 during the title years, he produced some pretty good ratings.

"Well, I thought I did," he said Wednesday, laughing. "They would not be very good these days."

Consider that Pennington's 87.5 rating for the season is better than the 84.9 mark that Roger Staubach led the league with in 1978, and it tops Dan Fouts' AFC-best 82.6 rating in 1979. Fouts and Staubach are Hall of Famers.

"When Roger retired in '79, he had the NFL's highest career rating at 83.4," Aikman says. "What it reflects is how much the game has changed."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-10-31-slant-brady_N.htm

A 158.3 isn't a perfect game. Each variable (YPA, TDs/Att, and INTs/Att) is capped so as not to allow an outlier to overwhelm the other variables. Thus, it caps the highest possible QB rating achievable. That doesn't make it a perfect QB rating, though.

 

[Eskimo]

I think it places too much emphasis on TD passes and completion percentage and not enough on ypa and ints which are much more important stats for a QB.

 

[zeroburrito]

manning should have thrown about 5 ints that game. he looked VERY GOOD(peytonesque) during the first quarter. after that it went WAY downhill.

 

[Brandon4Cowboys]

I think it places too much emphasis on TD passes and completion percentage and not enough on ypa and ints which are much more important stats for a QB.

I believe TD passes and INTs are equally important. Just opposite ends of the passing spectrum.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it's skewed because Campbell threw a TD and no pick

 

[percyhoward]

Campbell's rating last night was 81.2. Manning's was 61.1. Which player actually performed better?

Is "neither" an option?

 

[Eskimo]

I believe TD passes and INTs are equally important. Just opposite ends of the passing spectrum.

No, because you can easily score by other means. Alot of how teams score depends on the offense they run and whether they choose to pass or run in the red zone.

Most TOs occur most often in the passing game and are a very strong determinant of wins and losses.

 

[Brandon4Cowboys]

No, because you can easily score by other means. Alot of how teams score depends on the offense they run and whether they choose to pass or run in the red zone.

Most TOs occur most often in the passing game and are a very strong determinant of wins and losses.

i can see your point man. cheers!

 

[gbrittain]

The QB rating system is not perfect by any stretch, but it does tell a very good story if you look at it from the macro level instead of the micro level.

The QB rating rewads QBs for yardage, good completion percentage, and TDs.

Not sure why I would not want my QB to be good in those areas?

Of course the QB rating does not always tell the whole story but which stat does?