is strength and conditioning a problem with this team?

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Yeah, I know Joe Joe Juraszek is considered to be a good S&C coach, but I'm starting to wonder. It was pretty interesting that Marcellus Wiley pointed him out last year. That guy is a clown, but he''s aleast been close to the situation. Joe Juraszek is the only constant here besides Jerry Jones. And the Cowboys haven't won anything since Joe Juraszek showed up. The big positive is that the Cowboys have been inordinately healthy for a quite a few years, even this past one (even if the wrong people got injured). The problem I see with this team that could tie directly back to him, are our late season woes. How much of those go back to this team not having the stamina to survive the whole season? I mean if you think about it, people were blaming Bill Parcells for working the team too hard during TC for the late season collapses. Now Wade Phillips is supposedly too soft and that's leading to late season collapses. Something's amiss here.

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I don't put too much credence into anything that Dat Dude says. Conditioning could be an issue, but like you said, the Cowboys were a relatively healthy team for years so I doubt if Juraszek is the culprit. Grown men who make millions and keep their eyes on the prize should motivate themselves to get in shape and stay in shape.
 

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Monster Heel;2794840 said:
Yeah, I know Joe Joe Juraszek is considered to be a good S&C coach, but I'm starting to wonder. It was pretty interesting that Marcellus Wiley pointed him out last year. That guy is a clown, but he''s aleast been close to the situation. Joe Juraszek is the only constant here besides Jerry Jones. And the Cowboys haven't won anything since Joe Juraszek showed up. The big positive is that the Cowboys have been inordinately healthy for a quite a few years, even this past one (even if the wrong people got injured). The problem I see with this team that could tie directly back to him, are our late season woes. How much of those go back to this team not having the stamina to survive the whole season? I mean if you think about it, people were blaming Bill Parcells for working the team too hard during TC for the late season collapses. Now Wade Phillips is supposedly too soft and that's leading to late season collapses. Something's amiss here.

Your thoughts?


Interesting but I dont think so. Not a large part of why we blow at the end.

Remember Bill was here and he was a coach that demanded conditioning. So thats why I disagree.


There is an adage that its * "XX% physical and XX% mental".
We fail at the latter.

* insert any percentage
 

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Monster Heel;2794840 said:
Yeah, I know Joe Joe Juraszek is considered to be a good S&C coach, but I'm starting to wonder. It was pretty interesting that Marcellus Wiley pointed him out last year. That guy is a clown, but he''s aleast been close to the situation. Joe Juraszek is the only constant here besides Jerry Jones. And the Cowboys haven't won anything since Joe Juraszek showed up. The big positive is that the Cowboys have been inordinately healthy for a quite a few years, even this past one (even if the wrong people got injured). The problem I see with this team that could tie directly back to him, are our late season woes. How much of those go back to this team not having the stamina to survive the whole season? I mean if you think about it, people were blaming Bill Parcells for working the team too hard during TC for the late season collapses. Now Wade Phillips is supposedly too soft and that's leading to late season collapses. Something's amiss here.

Your thoughts?

I don't think the issue is stamina as much as it is mental. I think this team has made too many mental errors that have cost them.
 

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Monster Heel;2794840 said:
Yeah, I know Joe Joe Juraszek is considered to be a good S&C coach, but I'm starting to wonder. It was pretty interesting that Marcellus Wiley
Sorry stopped right there.

JMO but their is a bigger problem from the neck up rather than neck down on our team.
 

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Doomsday101;2794851 said:
I don't think the issue is stamina as much as it is mental. I think this team has made too many mental errors that have cost them.

fatigue brings on mental errors.
I am not saying this is the case but when tired you do not think as quickly . also when tired you move slower and that causes holding among other penalties....


what did Dat Dude say? I missed it.
 

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big dog is right. toughness, mental fortitude and HEART is what we lack. Got rid of a few characters that were a big part of the problem. Hope it helps....
 

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big dog cowboy;2794855 said:
Sorry stopped right there.

JMO but their is a bigger problem from the neck up rather than neck down on our team.

:hammer: I think the lax atmosphere created and fostered by Wade the last 2 years, had the players become complacent in their prepration, which includes working out, resulting in the injuries
 

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Our offseason program is as good as anyones if not the best.

I doubt very seriously most teams even get the participation that we get either.

Every year most of the guys get a little bigger, faster, or stronger.

And most professional athletes like to exercise as much as possible anyways.
 

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Doomsday101;2794851 said:
I don't think the issue is stamina as much as it is mental. I think this team has made too many mental errors that have cost them.
Lack of leadership down the stretch run doesn't help. That's when guys need to be reigned in to ensure focus... if its not there, we see what we've seen the last few years.
 

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EPL0c0;2794868 said:
Lack of leadership down the stretch run doesn't help. That's when guys need to be reigned in to ensure focus... if its not there, we see what we've seen the last few years.

I think it is a lack of execution down the stretch I'm not as hung up on the notion of lack of leadership I think there is leadership that take place within the team but when you don't win that is what people will point to.
 

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Cowboy Junkie;2794857 said:
fatigue brings on mental errors.
I am not saying this is the case but when tired you do not think as quickly . also when tired you move slower and that causes holding among other penalties....


what did Dat Dude say? I missed it.

We make many of the same mistakes early in the year especially with penalties only difference is as you get late into the season those same mistake become more costly. I don’t think lack of conditioning is playing a factor.
 

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I think that the S&C with this team is right on. We do have a team that has leaders and players with heart but there is something missing. I for one thinks this team will take the next step this season and win a playoff game. I think this team is hungry. I would not be suprised if we start slow and then come on which is much differnet than years past.

Our coaching staff needs to keep our schemes and game approach fresh and dynamic. I feel that we get flat and too predictable late in the year - especially the past two.
 

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Meh. Parcells said his weight coach was the most important assistant coach on his staff, and Juraszek was as good as anyone he'd ever had.

So no. Joe J. isn't a problem.
 

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no I think coaching and heart is a problem. these guys quit at the end of every year and we haven't had a really good coach since Jimmy.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2794892 said:
Meh. Parcells said his weight coach was the most important assistant coach on his staff, and Juraszek was as good as anyone he'd ever had.

So no. Joe J. isn't a problem.

Perhaps not. But he's no Mike Woicik.
 

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Doomsday101;2794878 said:
I think it is a lack of execution down the stretch I'm not as hung up on the notion of lack of leadership I think there is leadership that take place within the team but when you don't win that is what people will point to.
I will say this: Dec/Jan fail hasn't been wholly the fault of Romo or Wade Phillips or really anybody in particular. It's been an organization failure...at least in the last 21 years.

Since 1988 Dallas has played in 86 Dec/Jan regular season games. They're 38-48.

Since 1999 New England has played in 46 Dec/Jan regular season games. They're 35-11. Pats have 3 less wins in 40 less games in 11 less years.

I'm not pointing a finger at Jerry Jones either, but there's just something wrong w/ this team when it comes to playing in December/January.

I think it's lack of execution + a whole lot of other things (attitudes, lack of leadership, mental weakness, etc)
 

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EPL0c0;2795391 said:
I will say this: Dec/Jan fail hasn't been wholly the fault of Romo or Wade Phillips or really anybody in particular. It's been an organization failure...at least in the last 21 years.

Since 1988 Dallas has played in 86 Dec/Jan regular season games. They're 38-48.

Since 1999 New England has played in 46 Dec/Jan regular season games. They're 35-11. Pats have 3 less wins in 40 less games in 11 less years.

I'm not pointing a finger at Jerry Jones either, but there's just something wrong w/ this team when it comes to playing in December/January.

I think it's lack of execution + a whole lot of other things (attitudes, lack of leadership, mental weakness, etc)

That's pretty much the bottom dollar.

I do think that conditioning is a problem for the OL. I don't know this. I just suspect it. Those guys need to be watched carefully. Just the genes and the habits. Parcells had to ride them hard. I doubt Wade is giving that the proper attention.
 

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Monster Heel;2794840 said:
Yeah, I know Joe Joe Juraszek is considered to be a good S&C coach, but I'm starting to wonder. It was pretty interesting that Marcellus Wiley pointed him out last year. That guy is a clown, but he''s aleast been close to the situation. Joe Juraszek is the only constant here besides Jerry Jones. And the Cowboys haven't won anything since Joe Juraszek showed up. The big positive is that the Cowboys have been inordinately healthy for a quite a few years, even this past one (even if the wrong people got injured). The problem I see with this team that could tie directly back to him, are our late season woes. How much of those go back to this team not having the stamina to survive the whole season? I mean if you think about it, people were blaming Bill Parcells for working the team too hard during TC for the late season collapses. Now Wade Phillips is supposedly too soft and that's leading to late season collapses. Something's amiss here.

Your thoughts?

Yes, strength and conditioning were very lacking with 2008's team along with heart, desire, hustle, and discipline.
 
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