Is Terrell Owens Bipolar?

[AbeBeta]

You dont know about C)... he has admitted to staying home alone at night in the dark. He could be depressed at night or when alone.

Depression - the sort that is part of a disorder of this magnitude is not about being depressed for an evening or two - it involves long-term bouts of usually 2 weeks or more.

 

[heavyg]

C) Part of bipolar is depression -- we've never ever seen TO depressed -- depressed means can't get out of bed, can't do nothing. certainly not consistent with being a gym rat like Owens.

I respectully disagree with that statement. My nephew has been diagnosed with Bi-Polor disorder and he is a a gym rat. He is in very good shape. His problem is he has a temper that is out of this world. He can be fine one minute then through the roof the next

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Narcissistic with histrionic tendencies but a damn good football player when he wants to be.

 

[Eskimo]

He's simply an attention *****. Nothing more, nothing less

Attention ***** = histrionic personality disorder. Here are the DSM-IV criteria:

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2. interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3. displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4. consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5. has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6. shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7. is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8. considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

I personally think narcissist fits better overall.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Depression - the sort that is part of a disorder of this magnitude is not about being depressed for an evening or two - it involves long-term bouts of usually 2 weeks or more.

I respectully disagree with that statement. My nephew has been diagnosed with Bi-Polor disorder and he is a a gym rat. He is in very good shape. His problem is he has a temper that is out of this world. He can be fine one minute then through the roof the next

Exactly. Nothing is cut and dry. Everything in life in situational

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Anyone else see the irony of HeavyHitta31 calling someone else an attention *****?

 

[AbeBeta]

I respectully disagree with that statement. My nephew has been diagnosed with Bi-Polor disorder and he is a a gym rat. He is in very good shape. His problem is he has a temper that is out of this world. He can be fine one minute then through the roof the next

and where does the depression come in?

honestly, you might want to tell your brother or sister to look for a 2nd opinion there. being physically active like that all the time is pretty inconsistent. actually if he's snapping in and out of it like that it doesn't sound consistent with the mania phase either.

not being a smart *** here - really they might want another opinion - bipolar meds are serious stuff.

 

[AbeBeta]

Exactly. Nothing is cut and dry. Everything in life in situational

There are specific diagnostic criteria. Eskimo has his DSM out -- he can post them for you.

 

[Eskimo]

You guys are basically right and recognizing similarity between the Narcissist and the Histrionic. These are personality disorders marked by a certain amount of "badness". There are 4 such disorders are are known as Cluster B.

Histrionic PD
Narcissistic PD
Anti-Social PD (classic criminal man)
Borderline PD (classic suicidal women)

 

[The30YardSlant]

Attention ***** = histrionic personality disorder. Here are the DSM-IV criteria:

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2. interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3. displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4. consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5. has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6. shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7. is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8. considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

I personally think narcissist fits better overall.

Why do you think eh does what he does? He wants the spotlight on him all day, every day. That's why he admitted to spitting on hall. Not because he was being honest, but because he knew it would make him the top story on ESPN.

Too bad he didnt account for Carmelo's right hook

 

[Aikbach]

A) Multiple personality disorder is not the same as bipolar

B) Bipolar disorder is a really serious illness.

C) Part of bipolar is depression -- we've never ever seen TO depressed -- depressed means can't get out of bed, can't do nothing. certainly not consistent with being a gym rat like Owens.

D) TO is just a loud mouthed jerk who doesn't think things through before he speaks or acts -- don't label it as mental illness. Some folks are just jerks.

Depression manifests itself in many forms, he indulges himself with worldly pleasures to mask it because the world can't fathom why a man could be empty who has so much material wealth.

The irony of one who claims to have "low self-esteem" and is depressed accordingly is that low self-esteem is in actuality often someone who actually esteems themselves very highly and are upset that the rest of their peers do not recognize them with as much esteem as they themselves think they should be held in.

One of the subtle vanities of humanity.

 

[Eskimo]

There are specific diagnostic criteria. Eskimo has his DSM out -- he can post them for you.

As I've said before in this thread, DSM-IV is a bit of a recipe book and doesn't take the place of a psychiatrist's opinion, however subjective that may be.

There are actually two types of bipolar disease and then there is "hypomanic episodes" to further clutter things up.

Bipolar I Disorder--Diagnostic Features (DSM-IV, p. 350)
The essential feature of Bipolar I Disorder is a clinical course that is characterized by the occurrence of one or more Manic Episodes or Mixed Episodes. Often individuals have also had one or more Major Depressive Episodes. Episodes of Substance-Induced Mood Disorder (due to the direct effects of a medication, or other somatic treatments for depression, a drug of abuse, or toxin exposure) or of Mood Disorder Due to a General Medical Condition do not count toward a diagnosis of Bipolar I Disorder. In addition, the episodes are not better accounted for by Schizoaffective Disorder and are not superimposed on Schizophrenia, Schizophreniform Disorder, Delusional Disorder, or Psychotic Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. . . .


Bipolar II Disorder--Diagnostic Features (DSM-IV, p. 359)
The essential feature of Bipolar II Disorder is a clinical course that is characterized by the occurrence of one or more Major Depressive Episodes accompanied by at least one Hypomanic Episode. Hypomanic Episodes should not be confused with the several days of euthymia that may follow remission of a Major Depressive Episode. Episodes of Substance- Induced Mood Disorder (due to the direct effects of a medication, or other somatic treatments for depression, a drug of abuse, or toxin exposure) or of Mood Disorder Due to a General Medical Condition do not count toward a diagnosis of Bipolar I Disorder. In addition, the episodes are not better accounted for by Schizoaffective Disorder and are not superimposed on Schizophrenia, Schizophreniform Disorder, Delusional Disorder, or Psychotic Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. . . .

A manic episode meets the following criteria:

A distinct period of abnormally and persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting at least 1 week (or any duration if hospitalization is necessary)
HealthyPlace.com Video

watch to HealthyPlace.com video on bipolar disorder, manic depression Naomi - college student - on the psychotic aspects of bipolar disorder

watch with realplayer. video table of contents here.


B. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:

1.

inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
2.

decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
3.

more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
4.

flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
5.

distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
6.

increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
7.

excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., engaging in unrestrained buying spree, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)

C. The symptoms do not meet criteria for a Mixed Episode.

D. The mood disturbance is sufficiently severe to cause marked impairment in occupational functioning or in usual social activities or relationships with others, or to necessitate hospitalization to prevent harm to self or others, or there are psychotic features.

E. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).

Note: Manic-like episodes that are clearly caused by somatic antidepressant treatment (e.g., medication, electroconvulsive therapy, light therapy) should not count toward a diagnosis of Bipolar I Disorder.


A hypomanic episode meets the following criteria:

A distinct period of persistently elevated, expansive; or irritable mood, lasting throughout at least 4 days, that is clearly different from the usual nondepressed mood.

B. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:

1.

inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
2.

decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
3.

more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
4.

flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
5.

distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
6.

increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
7.

excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)

C. The episode is associated with an unequivocal change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person when not symptomatic.

D. The disturbance in mood and the change in functioning are observable by others.

E. The episode is not severe enough to cause marked impairment in social or occupational functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features.

F. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).

Note: Hypomanic-like episodes that are clearly caused by somatic antidepressant treatment (e.g., medication, electroconvulsive therapy, light therapy) should not count toward a diagnosis of Bipolar II Disorder.

 

[Eskimo]

Why do you think eh does what he does? He wants the spotlight on him all day, every day. That's why he admitted to spitting on hall. Not because he was being honest, but because he knew it would make him the top story on ESPN.

Too bad he didnt account for Carmelo's right hook

The origins of personality disorders is very poorly understood. If you look at some of the criteria for the different disorders we all recognize pieces of us that fit the label. However, personality disorders tend to be pervasive ways of dealing with the world and are often ultimately self-destructive.

 

[AbeBeta]

Depression manifests itself in many forms, he indulges himself with worldly pleasures to mask it because the world can't fathom why a man could be empty who has so much material wealth.
.

Sure -- but the reason why it can be diagnosed is that there are specific patterns that occur more often than not. And as I've said TO's behavior isn't particularly consistent with the depressive end of bipolar. actually -- it isn't consistent with the manic end either b/c he's pretty much always on

Diagnostically, that is pretty much all that anyone can say - it isn't like having a broken bone -- there is no x-ray you can use here -- you can only ask -- is his behavior consistent with the criteria? and for the most part it isn't.

 

[Aikbach]

The origins of personality disorders is very poorly understood. If you look at some of the criteria for the different disorders we all recognize pieces of us that fit the label. However, personality disorders tend to be pervasive ways of dealing with the world and are often ultimately self-destructive.

In other words vanity is unbecoming and patience and grace has its limits before people are alienated by abusive and arrogant behavior after many overtures to come to grips with the individual.

 

[Jimz31]

It is a pretty dry read and certainly of questionable validity: psychiatry by recipe if you will and most psychiatrists I know don't put a lot of stock in it.

Its main purpose is to categorize mental illnesses uniformly for research more than clinical purposes.

Tell me about it....I remember it from college.

 

[AbeBeta]

Tell me about it....I remember it from college.

it lends itself nicely to diagnostic software .... the insurance companies love that stuff.

 

[Eskimo]

it lends itself nicely to diagnostic software .... the insurance companies love that stuff.

If any of you ever want to waste a day of your lives, you could take the MMPI (Minnesota Multi-Phasic Personality Inventory).

 

[Jimz31]

If any of you ever want to waste a day of your lives, you could take the MMPI (Minnesota Multi-Phasic Personality Inventory).

Or the WAIS-III....or the Hopkins Verbal, etc.

 

[Cbz40]

Tell me about it....I remember it from college.

At least you remember it!!!!....I have a degree in Psychology......and I don't remember any of this stuff. I wonder why....:laugh2: