Is the Alamodome a bad omen

[Faerluna]

Great reasoning Wade, if in fact you did say that!!

Nah, I just pulled that out of my hat because I'm heading up a big Wade apologist...or something....

(Is it too early in the season to be a Wade apologist? I wanna get in on the ground floor for that one.)

 

[Doomsday101]

Just doesn't make much sense all this being easy on the players, but like you said we'll see.

Guys came into camp in great shape this year and I think they will be in football shape as we move through the pre-season. Right now my big concern is getting out of training camp and pre-season without any major injuries.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Nah, I just pulled that out of my hat because I'm heading up a big Wade apologist...or something....

(Is it too early in the season to be a Wade apologist? I wanna get in on the ground floor for that one.)

I really didn't mean it to be an insult against you. Sorry.

 

[peplaw06]

Just doesn't make much sense all this being easy on the players, but like you said we'll see.

Let's see. The past 5 seasons we've been 8-17 in December and January.

You're right, not killing the players before the season starts doesn't make any sense

As long as they're in shape on Week 1, I'm fine with practices in 78 degrees for two weeks.

 

[Doomsday101]

Let's see. The past 5 seasons we've been 8-17 in December and January.

You're right, not killing the players before the season starts doesn't make any sense

As long as they're in shape on Week 1, I'm fine with practices in 78 degrees for two weeks.

It could be worse the team could be in Oxnard Ca. where is it a steamy 63 degrees today.

 

[Marktui]

It hasn't even been that hot so far this year in Dallas. Higher than 78 degrees, yes, but unless something changes it's not going to be too killer.

And we only have one or two games where the temps may be "hot." Our opener is at night, then we play at Miami (could be hot and humid, but a 4:00 pm start local), at Chicago at night, and at home against St. Louis (noon start). After that it's October.

Practicing in the heat is overrated IMO.

I agree with the training in the heat factor. All training in the heat does is wear your body down and make it that much tougher for you body to bounce back and get ready for another day. When a body gets worn out, is the time you start getting pulled hamstrings and quads. It really serves no purpose in getting ready for the season.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree with the training in the heat factor. All training in the heat does is wear your body down and make it that much tougher for you body to bounce back and get ready for another day. When a body gets worn out, is the time you start getting pulled hamstrings and quads. It really serves no purpose in getting ready for the season.

Well the Cowboys will finish training camp in Dallas where it will be quite hot, so they will get a good taste of the weather before all is said and done. I think you make some good points on the heat but I also think it is important to get acclimated to the conditions you’re going to face. In the Cowboys situation they will get a bit of both.

 

[peplaw06]

It could be worse the team could be in Oxnard Ca. where is it a steamy 63 degrees today.

I miss Cali weather...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Wade said just today that when they get to back to Dallas, he won't put them in the bubble very much. They'll be outside. So there will be time to get used to the heat and the elements.

And training in the heat isn't so much for the physcial aspects, it's for developing mental toughness. It's the oldest theory in the book that the harder practice conditions are, the easier the games will feel. Or as they say in the military, the more sweat on the training field, the less blood on the battlefield.

Hey, if we scrubs could do two-a-days in 105 degree heat, surely these guys can stand it.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Let's see. The past 5 seasons we've been 8-17 in December and January.

You're right, not killing the players before the season starts doesn't make any sense

As long as they're in shape on Week 1, I'm fine with practices in 78 degrees for two weeks.

I don't call Oxnard and the Alamodome harsh conditions. Jimmy used to take them down to Austin at St. Eds and kill them in practice and in drills and his teams got stronger in December. Working them hard now seems to build endurance for the long haul. The past 5 seasons they have trained in the cupcake Alamodome and in 70 degree cupcake Oxnard.

 

[Faerluna]

Practicing in the heat will develop mental toughness for guys that are wearing air conditioned shoulder pads.

 

[Doomsday101]

Wade said just today that when they get to back to Dallas, he won't put them in the bubble very much. They'll be outside. So there will be time to get used to the heat and the elements.

And training in the heat isn't so much for the physcial aspects, it's for developing mental toughness. It's the oldest theory in the book that the harder practice conditions are, the easier the games will feel. Or as they say in the military, the more sweat on the training field, the less blood on the battlefield.

Hey, if we scrubs could do two-a-days in 105 degree heat, surely these guys can stand it.

I agree. I hated 2 a days in the Texas Heat but that was the way it was. Cowboys did thrive in it as well as Jimmy Johnson had them in over 100 degree temps in Austin and that team only ended up winning 3 SB in a 4 year span. I have no problem with Dallas working out in the dome right now but I do think it is important to get a good taste of the heat and glad Phillips is going to do that.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I agree. I hated 2 a days in the Texas Heat but that was the way it was. Cowboys did thrive in it as well as Jimmy Johnson had them in over 100 degree temps in Austin and that team only ended up winning 3 SB in a 4 year span. I have no problem with Dallas working out in the dome right now but I do think it is important to get a good taste of the heat and glad Phillips is going to do that.

I just wish it were for the entire TC, not just 2 weeks.

 

[Doomsday101]

I just wish it were for the entire TC, not just 2 weeks.

I can't say either way is wrong. Landry had the Cowboys in Thousand Oaks Cal for training camp for many years and that team also was successful. They will get plenty of sunshine and heat before this camp is done. In the meantime guys just need to stay focused and learn as much as they can.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I can't say either way is wrong. Landry had the Cowboys in Thousand Oaks Cal for training camp for many years and that team also was successful. They will get plenty of sunshine and heat before this camp is done. In the meantime guys just need to stay focused and learn as much as they can.

Landry did do that, but I guess I'm just used to the way Jimmy did it since I was too young for the Landry era and started keeping up with them around the time Jimmy took over and that he had so much success with it and now the Cowboys have had so much late season failure in recent years.

 

[Doomsday101]

Landry did do that, but I guess I'm just used to the way Jimmy did it since I was too young for the Landry era and started keeping up with them around the time Jimmy took over and that he had so much success with it and now the Cowboys have had so much late season failure in recent years.

I don't think there is only 1 way of doing something and as I said the Cowboys will get ample time in the heat.

 

[peplaw06]

Landry did do that, but I guess I'm just used to the way Jimmy did it since I was too young for the Landry era and started keeping up with them around the time Jimmy took over and that he had so much success with it and now the Cowboys have had so much late season failure in recent years.

So do you admit the correlation has little to do with where (or in what conditions) the team trains, and more to do with the talent on the team? You can't just pick and choose and say, well this team did well after practicing in the heat and ignore the ones who did well after training in mild conditions.

The Cowboys had so much success in the Jimmy era because they were the most talented team in the league. One of the most talented of all time. It's not because they trained in the heat.

And there have been plenty of great teams who have trained in mild weather. I don't think that teams that train up north are at any real disadvantage because of where they train. If it were proven that warm weather training was the best way to prepare for the season, everyone would be doing it.

 

[superpunk]

So do you admit the correlation has little to do with where (or in what conditions) the team trains, and more to do with the talent on the team? You can't just pick and choose and say, well this team did well after practicing in the heat and ignore the ones who did well after training in mild conditions.

The Cowboys had so much success in the Jimmy era because they were the most talented team in the league. One of the most talented of all time. It's not because they trained in the heat.

And there have been plenty of great teams who have trained in mild weather. I don't think that teams that train up north are at any real disadvantage because of where they train. If it were proven that warm weather training was the best way to prepare for the season, everyone would be doing it.

You're being pretty short-sighted. The list of teams who benefit from an exhaustive regimen in the heat is long, and made up of words. Your body is conditioned to endure more, and thus the effects of the drastic heat of a season full of games against teams in the northeast region of the united states is lessened. As a supporting example - look simply to the track record of the Arizona Cardinals, who trained in the desert for years before getting their new facility, and are always a tough win.

It's basically science.

 

[zeromaster]

Using the Arizona Cardinals in any analogy is verboten.

 

[superpunk]

Using the Arizona Cardinals in any analogy is verboten.

You know I don't speak yiddish.