Is there a school of thought that the center of our offensive problem Sunday was. the center?

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You literally just said that you wouldn't mind him getting extended just because it irritates fans.

Does that sound like something a Cowboys fan would say or something a Dak fan would say?
Thats a response to a troll . And I didnt say I hope that irritaes any fans just fans like you. You and a few others make this board unbearable at times. its not an either or thing. Its not dak or dallas thats garbage a troll makes up in his mind. If we have to continue to endure youre BS and youve made it clear that youre going to continue to troll then yes i hope they do extend him just to irritate you.

because it makes your cowboy experience less enjoyable just as you continue to try and do to others on this board. I see the flaws in this team I see the flaws in dak, The line ,the defense,the WR's and the coaching and i hope they fix them. I just dont need to make multiple threads each day on it. because Im not a TROLL
 

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Yes, there are people that do that. And that frustrates me the most. The people that just troll. But most of all it’s pretty good here you have to agree. Vague didn’t mean to be. You’re intelligent. I thought you would get it.
Can be a bit tricky navigating good clever comments. All good.
 

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Thats a response to a troll . And I didnt say I hope that irritaes any fans just fans like you. You and a few others make this board unbearable at times. its not an either or thing. Its not dak or dallas thats garbage a troll makes up in his mind. If we have to continue to endure youre BS and youve made it clear that youre going to continue to troll then yes i hope they do extend him just to irritate you.

because it makes your cowboy experience less enjoyable just as you continue to try and do to others on this board. I see the flaws in this team I see the flaws in dak, The line ,the defense,the WR's and the coaching and i hope they fix them. I just dont need to make multiple threads each day on it. because Im not a TROLL
It is my opinion that people that STILL continue to go toe-to-toe (crusade) with trolls...are just as bad as the trolls they fight with. It makes it an exponential irritation.

The golden rule is ignore them.
 

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I've got to start tracking this stuff
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Thats a response to a troll . And I didnt say I hope that irritaes any fans just fans like you. You and a few others make this board unbearable at times. its not an either or thing. Its not dak or dallas thats garbage a troll makes up in his mind. If we have to continue to endure youre BS and youve made it clear that youre going to continue to troll then yes i hope they do extend him just to irritate you.

because it makes your cowboy experience less enjoyable just as you continue to try and do to others on this board. I see the flaws in this team I see the flaws in dak, The line ,the defense,the WR's and the coaching and i hope they fix them. I just dont need to make multiple threads each day on it. because Im not a TROLL
You're not a troll?

You're literally in support of the Cowboys extended a QB that guarantees we win nothing just to upset the fans that want better.

It sure seems like you'd get more pleasure from the "trolls" that you don't agree with being upset at the team then you would with the team actually getting become and becoming legit.
 

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To be fair....I did reply to..ONE person that tried to blame Dak's interception (after a should-have-been interception) on Kellen.

One of the dumbest things I ever read and clearly Dak Defender over Cowboys Fan.

Pretty isolated though.

We also have a few guys that no matter what the topic is, Dak Defense inevitably and incessantly makes an appearance. I think these guys are generally Cowboys fans, just on their self-admitted Dak Crusade.
I dont know how anyone can look at that throw and blame anyone but dak. he keyed in on him but the entirety of the game im not placing all on dak. i see no push in run game from the line as well as pocket caving in,I see 0 seperation. I see a defense that still struggles with the run and yes i see a QB that gets a deer in headlights performance when the line plays as rotten as they did sunday.

Washington has good tough young front. They even were missing one of their best players. so I expected a bad performance just not that bad. But i also know its a week to week league and this week could be better.
 

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You're not a troll?

You're literally in support of the Cowboys extended a QB that guarantees we win nothing just to upset the fans that want better.

It sure seems like you'd get more pleasure from the "trolls" that you don't agree with being upset at the team then you would with the team actually getting become and becoming legit.
If this team is to become legit in the form of being a team that can win the superbowl without the other team imploding ala Minnesota game they need to do alot more then just replace a QB you know they are tied to because just like ROMO Jerry tied himself to Dak.

Whether we like it or not its what the deal is. There are plenty of other issues just like in the Romo era that ails this team. so no im not a troll but i do occassionally respond to them. Youll not see me starting multiple threads a day to get rise out of other fans
You like to throw out you just want better. Youre not fooling anybody. while you may want better (we all do) you get enjoyment out of throwing out garbage like dak over Dallas. or creating thread after thread of Dak BS when youre not stupid you know its more than that.

But talking about the other things dont get you likes and dont get a rise out of fans like rocky or AC and a few other who dak is their favorite player or even those of us who just want to enjoy the season. We get it you hate him we got that a long time ago. Its the frequency of youre BS and how you revel in it that rubs other fans the wrong way. But carry on and do what you do.
 

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If this team is to become legit in the form of being a team that can win the superbowl without the other team imploding ala Minnesota game they need to do alot more then just replace a QB you know they are tied to because just like ROMO Jerry tied himself to Dak.

Whether we like it or not its what the deal is. There are plenty of other issues just like in the Romo era that ails this team. so no im not a troll but i do occassionally respond to them. Youll not see me starting multiple threads a day to get rise out of other fans
You like to throw out you just want better. Youre not fooling anybody. while you may want better (we all do) you get enjoyment out of throwing out garbage like dak over Dallas. or creating thread after thread of Dak BS when youre not stupid you know its more than that.

But talking about the other things dont get you likes and dont get a rise out of fans like rocky or AC and a few other who dak is their favorite player or even those of us who just want to enjoy the season. We get it you hate him we got that a long time ago. Its the frequency of youre BS and how you revel in it that rubs other fans the wrong way. But carry on and do what you do.
I would get more enjoyment if I never have to mention Dak as the Cowboys QB again.

Until he is no longer the "leader", highest paid, and playing the most important position on the team then the focus will mostly be on him and his play. It comes with the territory. He will most certainly get 99% of the credit when/if this team ever wins anything meaningful. That's how it works in football when you're the QB.
 

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It is my opinion that people that STILL continue to go toe-to-toe (crusade) with trolls...are just as bad as the trolls they fight with. It makes it an exponential irritation.

The golden rule is ignore them.
typically I do but on occassion I feel the need to remind them of what they are and how them being them impacts the rest of the board. Im sorry If I dampen your delight of the board. Thats not my intention but if youre ok with such behavior thats ok.

kind of like the state of bigger things. If we are not heard from it will remain the same. dont want to get sidelined before the big game so ill leave it at that
 

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typically I do but on occassion I feel the need to remind them of what they are and how them being them impacts the rest of the board. Im sorry If I dampen your delight of the board. Thats not my intention but if youre ok with such behavior thats ok.

kind of like the state of bigger things. If we are not heard from it will remain the same. dont want to get sidelined before the big game so ill leave it at that
I dont consider you one of those...crusaders. occasional reminders....cool.
 

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I've never seen an OL with so many future HOF's play so poorly all year. Time to overhaul the Offensive coaches and bring in people who don't suck.
 

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I do believe this has something to do with it. McGovern is not as good of a C as Biadasz so you lose something there. Tyler Smith is not as good at LG as McGovern. So you lose something there too. Remember, MM would not commit to starting Tyler Smith over McGovern at LG when the year began, before Tyron got hurt. I don't think Jason Peters is as consistent as Tyler Smith at LT, especially in the run game.

So getting a healthy Biadasz back at Center and moving Tyler back to LT and McGovern to LG makes the OL a little better in my opinion. Those guys are used to working with each other so it helps with communication and continuity. I imagine Biadasz's experience calling the blocking out is also a plus over the inexperienced McGovern.

Having said that, Tyler Smith has not be as good as he was at the start of the season. Plus, something to watch, he has been called for 2 holding calls in his last 2 games. Its possible that's the result of the position change.

And most controversially, I think Tyron is not as good as Terence Steele. I had my doubts about Steele starting at RT before the season started but he has made a believer out of me. He is a devastating run blocker, Once he gets into his guy he shoves him out of the hole and doesn't let up. I don't care who it is. Against the Eagles early in the season I saw him push Fletcher Cox at least 5 yards across the field on multiple occasions. Tyron struggled to move Cox an inch. This makes a big difference in the running game. Steele used to clear the edge for Pollard and even Zeke and that is not happening anymore. Same with Peters, he doesn't have the feet to take out the edge guy then get downfield to clear out the pursuit like Tyler Smith was doing most of the year.

I certainly hope Steele comes back from his injury next year 100% of what he was this year.
 
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