DBoys;1279593 said:
I think we got off track somewhere.
So I call you a Nors lover and you ban me. In my old account you have my email and service provider/IP etc. My IP is dynamic so it will be changing weekly and a lot of people use sbc. I could create another account with a different email and as long as I am good you guys wouldn't know it is me right?
No, usually it is very easy to figure out. To actualy mask this well you have to change service providers. In other words from sbcglobal to AOL. Only then do you get a completely unique new IP. How many people are willing to do that all the time just to stay on a forum where they aren't wanted? Not many. Nine times out of ten there is traceable evidence. Probably more than 9 out of 10 actually because most trolls also make a new account the same day or the next day. So a timeline is traceable too.
dboys said:
Another scenario...
So I call you a Nors lover and you ban me. I want to keep giving you a hard time so I create another account with a diff email and use a proxy in Brazil. You wouldn't immediatly know that it is me right? You would only know by my posting habits or saying similar things from the other account right?
My point is users can always create different emails/accounts and spoof IP's and those are the two things you guys have.
Yes, and this has happened before. But absent the use of that Brazil (or anywhere else) proxy there's no need for us to even assume this.
There are very powerful search tools available just as there are proxies. Let me give you an example without naming any names.
I am very hated on one forum out there. I won't advertise their name. They say some crap about me that is just amazing at times. Not one of those guys has ever met me, but they "know" all about me. We had a poster here who for whatever reason liked me and sent me a PM that he was going to go over there, create an account, and post all kinds of crap. He didn't care if they banned him. He hoped they would. Young kid, not even out of High School. I think he thought this would impress me.
I told him it was a bad idea and mentioned these search tools. Now, I do not know if the guys over there know of these tools or not. That's irrelevant to me. I wanted this kid to know the risks. After several attempts to impress upon him how dangerous that info is in the wrong hands I was getting nowhere.
He was convinced that he could fool them. Maybe he could. I don't know. I didn't want him doing it even if he could get away with it. I hate crap like that. He was persistent so I decided to show him how easily it would be to foul him up.
I have only done this 3 times in the 4 years I have had these tools. In less than 15 minutes I told him the name of the street he lived on in the town he lived in.
If we truly want to know, even the proxies won't stop us. That is how honest this staff is though. We don't do these things even though we know how.