Isn't it about time to just give up and scrap the franchise?

cobra

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Based on the game, it's clear to some CowboysZone members that the Cowboys are horrible and will never win a game again.

As such, don't we all agree that it is about time to just give up and forfeit the whole season and dissolve the franchise? There really isn't any point in ever playing a game again. Some CowboysZone members seem certain we would just lose anyhow.

Nothing a bigger sign of a fan than someone who is ultimately pessimistic.
 

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I wonder how much Jerry Jones would sell me the franchise for since it seems totally worthless. Let me check my wallet. Well, dangit I might be 20 bucks short... MAYBE
 

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The last time I checked this is a "discussion forum" about Cowboys football.

We looked horrible yesterday and the offense failed to show up for the most part. If you think Cowboy fans are going to throw roses at the team after a big game stinker like that, you are going to be severely disappointed.

I'm not tanking on the team and the season, but we should demand in Parcells 3rd season, (making about $5 million a year mind you) that our offense be competitive in a big game.

I said yesterday that we simply did not compete on offense yesterday. Go read Dan Campbell's comments after the game about the offense not competing. For a football player those should be fighting words! Not Competing?! That means no guts, no character! That's a big problem!

That's not pessimistic, that's reality and that's my beef for this week!
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
I said yesterday that we simply did not compete on offense yesterday. Go read Dan Campbell's comments after the game about the offense not competing. For a football player that should be fighting words! Not Competing?! That means no guts, no character! That's a big problem!

That's not pessimistic, that's reality and that's my beef for this week!

Well, the Giants didn't exactly compete on offense either. and the Giant D had something to do with it. I honestly think we were getting to the D, wearing them down, then we gave them a break on that stupid 3rd and 1. After that the air went out of our tires. But had we hit on that play we would likely ended up winning going away.
 

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For pete's sake. This team was in first place yesterday. They had an off-game. The offensive line looked shaky. The resulting running game and passing game was poor. The coaches were aware of the weakness in the line and game planned too conservatively.

But to act as if we are the Houston Texas trotting out there every week is asinine. And the view that something isn't right unless we are undefeated is not the sign of a fan.

Do I think you should throw roses at their feet after a loss? Of course not. The proper reaction for a fan of the team is to say "Darn it!!! We'll get 'em next time. We just need to redouble our efforts and try harder." The pathetic, moronic reaction of supposed "fans" here is to say "God we suck. We need to get rid of ______ and bring in ______. Our coaching sucks. Our owner sucks. Our players suck." That isn't being a fan.
 

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the Giant D had something to do with it.

How dare you say such a shocking thing! Our performance couldn't have had anything to do with playing a very good defense in freezing conditions on their home field! It clear is the fault of Bledsoe. And the O-line. And Juilius. And Payton. And Parcells. And McBriar. And Jerry Jones. And the waterboy.
 

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cobra said:
Do I think you should throw roses at their feet after a loss? Of course not. The proper reaction for a fan of the team is to say "Darn it!!! We'll get 'em next time. We just need to redouble our efforts and try harder."

Unfortunately after 10 years that reaction is a bit stale, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, I demand a Super Bowl contender.
 

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cobra said:
Based on the game, it's clear to some CowboysZone members that the Cowboys are horrible and will never win a game again.

As such, don't we all agree that it is about time to just give up and forfeit the whole season and dissolve the franchise? There really isn't any point in ever playing a game again. Some CowboysZone members seem certain we would just lose anyhow.

Nothing a bigger sign of a fan than someone who is ultimately pessimistic.

I have never understood why one Extreme comment by a pessimist always has to be countered by an Extreme comment by an optimist.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
I have never understood why one Extreme comment by a pessimist always has to be countered by an Extreme comment by an optimist.

- Mike G.


:bravo:
 

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cobra said:
For pete's sake. This team was in first place yesterday. They had an off-game. The offensive line looked shaky. The resulting running game and passing game was poor. The coaches were aware of the weakness in the line and game planned too conservatively.

But to act as if we are the Houston Texas trotting out there every week is asinine. And the view that something isn't right unless we are undefeated is not the sign of a fan.

Do I think you should throw roses at their feet after a loss? Of course not. The proper reaction for a fan of the team is to say "Darn it!!! We'll get 'em next time. We just need to redouble our efforts and try harder." The pathetic, moronic reaction of supposed "fans" here is to say "God we suck. We need to get rid of ______ and bring in ______. Our coaching sucks. Our owner sucks. Our players suck." That isn't being a fan.

I never said "we suck" or anything like that. What I said after the game yesterday was that we did not compete offensively.

Well, look at this. Here is Dan Campbell after the game... "Over the four quarters, I thought we really were competitive for about five minutes," said Campbell. "That's it. No more. We had a little stretch there in the second half when we got something going. But then that was over. The other 55 minutes, we played like crap. That's just how unacceptable our performance was".
Campbell was willing to give credit to the Giants defense, but added, "I seriously question the level of competition we gave them today."

Now I ask, were my comments after the game off base?
 

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I have no problem with people complaining but it is funny the way many here (including me) laugh at the posters at Extremeskins for their extreme variations in mood, yet this place is as bad if not worse.

If we had won yesterday, we would have been in the SB, we lost so Parcells is now a gross looking old fart with man boobs.
 

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I am pleased with the boys. Even if we dont win another game, which we will, this was a great year. The D is stout, having all these teams come at us with 32 points a game averages leaving with a 17-10 or so score proves that. This D aint no joke.

I have never subscribed to the build it in one year theory. Why have a one year wonder. I have always been oldschool and took the approach I bet Jones and Parcells took of building this over 2-3 years with solid drafts, key FA pickups for a long run at potential greatness. I am waiting for this offseason to get the O line that will allow the backs to do their thing and keep Bledsoe healthy and upright this next year, as he will be the starter next year too, and rightfully so. So I am not disappointed or upset we are not printing tickets to Detroit. Next year will be our coming out party. Then we start collecting trophies in our third round of being the best. 2 in the 70's, 3 in the 90's, Maybe 4 or more in the 00's

So no, dont scrap the franchise. Its alive and doing well. just many pple have no patience anymore. All these guys calling for Bledsoes heads, JJ's heads, Petteti heads and even Cortez's head still are either very young and niave, or too old and stubborn and set in their ways to change to see that we are doing great and are on schedule or ahead of schedule if anything.

Notice anything with all the calling for heads. They are all Offensive or special teamers. That should tell you the with an improved line, all areas will improve. Running backs, QBing and Recieving. We are poised at the brink of greatness, and you pple wanna fire everyone, trade the pple we didn't fire and build what, A tennessee titan, Baltimore One year wonder. No thanks,. lets pay the dues, do it right and get there and stay there for a long while. How bout opening our new stadium being the defending champions and odds on favorites to win it all again. How bout being the first home team to play in a superbowl. How sweet would that be. If we do it right, we will be perennial challengers and often champions for the next decade.
 

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That's just silly. Dissolve the Franchise? C'mon. I'm all for giving up on the season and playing for draft position, cleaning house with the coaching staff (completely gutting it from head coach on down), and cutting numerous worthless players... but dissolving the Franchise? That would be a little overkill, I think.

We could fire all of the coaches because it's clear after yesterday that they all suck. Start with Zimmer. We didn't get one turnover returned for a touchdown. Not one! Stopping the other team and making their offense look like a pop warner squad is nice and all... but we gotta score on defense. Two INT's are good... but we gotta score defensive touchdowns!

Being one of the most dominant defenses in the NFL just isn't where we need to be at this time.

And the players? Well, I've learned today by reading on this board that Roy Williams is actually tackling players low, by their legs. We can't have that. I say if he can't start tackling high... he needs to go.

Bledsoe, although he's by far the best QB we've had here since Aikman, needs to go. I read a thread today that said he has the wrong tempo on his throws. Crap! No wonder we lost. I also read that he's a lumbering idiot with no intensity... Why do we allow a lumbering idiot with no intensity to QB America's team? That's stupid... we need to cut him. Being a game out of first place and having the best team we've had since probably '96 means nothing when your QB can't get away from an unblocked DL and fumbles.

Yeah, Bledsoe is winning us a lot of games... but he lumbers! We can't have it! Besides, Bledsoe apparently wasn't upset enough after the loss. He needed to cry everyday, all week to prove he has the same kind of intensity as the wonderful athletes that frequent this forum.

Petitti and Tucker? Why they singlehandedly set this franchise back decades. How could they be so underwhelming? Not only should they be cut, immediately, but the Cowboys should petition that they not be allowed back in the NFL at all. They should be retired from football. It doesn't matter that we're still in the middle of the playoff hunt... we should cut them and use special teams players as tackles. Doesn't matter that Petitti is a rookie and tough days can be expected... I mean this is Dallas. He must perform perfectly at all times or he's horrible.

Julius clearly is as explosive as a blob of clay and should be sent packing. I think I read on here that he's mentally handicapped because he didn't get out of bounds to stop the clock. Well no wonder. Everyone on here would've gotten out of bounds, I can tell you that.

Peterman needs to be cut because he couldn't beat out Hall of Famer Larry Allen and expensive free agent acquisition, former pro bowler Marco Rivera. How could he let those two keep him on the bench. Pffft. Garbage, I tell ya.

Al Johnson needs to go too. Who would believe that he's been telegraphing our snap count to the defense? He's probably been sending them notes on our gameplan during pregame warmups. Cut him.

I could go on... but why? It's clear that our entire roster needs to be cut except for Dat, who's retiring, Greg Ellis, Terence Newman, and Aaron Glenn.

It's going to be difficult starting over from scratch, but we can do it. After all the coaches are fired and Jerry Jones has spent a week of self-flaggelation in the steam room of valley ranch, we need to hunt down a real coaching staff. Someone who will throw on first down. Someone who won't run up the middle at all. Ever. Someone who will open up the offense. Someone who will run the ball more to help time of possesion. A guy who won't stick to a gameplan. A coach who doesn't care as much about the fundementals of the game and will instead spend his time working on elaborate passing schemes to fool the defensive coordinators around the league.

Maybe Mike Martz will be available... he'll pass a lot. Not many first down runs there, I can tell you that.

It will be hard starting over with only 3 players. We'll have to have a very good draft and get some good free agents, but we can do it.

At least we won't have all the slackers on the team that we do now. All the horrible players who just don't care... like Glover, Ware, Spears, Ellis, Roy, Henry (who is clearly a wuss since he can't play with a torn groin), Julius, etc. We'll be free of those guys.

Yep, I can see doing that... but to dissolve the franchise? That's just an overreaction if you ask me.
 

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cobra said:
For pete's sake. This team was in first place yesterday. They had an off-game. The offensive line looked shaky. The resulting running game and passing game was poor. The coaches were aware of the weakness in the line and game planned too conservatively.

But to act as if we are the Houston Texas trotting out there every week is asinine. And the view that something isn't right unless we are undefeated is not the sign of a fan.

Do I think you should throw roses at their feet after a loss? Of course not. The proper reaction for a fan of the team is to say "Darn it!!! We'll get 'em next time. We just need to redouble our efforts and try harder." The pathetic, moronic reaction of supposed "fans" here is to say "God we suck. We need to get rid of ______ and bring in ______. Our coaching sucks. Our owner sucks. Our players suck." That isn't being a fan.

lets try the texans offense with our defense, yes our offense was that bad
 

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If you don't complain after seeing that travesty yesterday and bash the hell out of Parcells and the offense, than I say you're not a Cowboys fan.
 
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