CFZ It’s a violent game and many QBs lose it at 30

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QB is a hard position to make people happy. Even Troy Aikman was jeered out of the stadium his last years. Aikman quickly lost it at age 30, and maybe we’re starting to see it with Dak? Reading this message board, it’s easy to think in extremes with our QB. But I would like to think most of us were cautiously optimistic about Dak going into 2023.

We’ve seen some increasing inconsistencies and regressions. But it wasn’t that long ago that Dak was the Brock Purdy of the NFL - a cool, calm, collected rookie QB making all the right decisions and looking like he could go all the way in the Playoffs. Or how about 2018 when he got Coop and started lighting the offense up! Or even last year’s Playoffs. As disappointing as the San Francisco game, you can’t deny Dak was perfect in that Tampa game.

Like all veteran professional QBs, you won’t hear Dak complain about the injuries. Only the reporters will bring it up. The most unsolicited emotional shot we’ll get is the game when he was sitting on the field with his foot pointed the wrong direction. It’s also easy to forget that while not a mobile QB in the mold of someone like Josh Alllen, the run was part of Dak’s game in college and the pros, and he paid the price. Maybe just like Donovan McNabb, Cam Newton, Steve McNair, Daunte Culpepper and other mobile QBs who very quickly lost it at 30? Not everyone can be an Aaron Rodgers and take that beating to age 40.

I agree with others that we may have just seen the beginning of the end for Dak. This is the first time in his career where we can honestly say if he doesn’t rebound, he may not be on the team next year. For those who are eager to see that, and think Trey Lance is the chosen one, I want to remind you of the misery we went through with Jerry’s last hand-picked project QBs… Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson and the Gang!

Never say never. The season is only five games. It was a total punch in the mouth, but it can turn around. Especially with so much parity and limited roster depth. I’m more concerned that the ENTIRE team laid an egg. Hey, at least it was a team effort! But I’m rooting that Dak can turn it around. Like Romo, I cheer for Dak and hope it won’t all suddenly end from age and injuries. These guys all deserve a Super Bowl shot and it’s sad seeing so many all-time Cowboys walk into the sunset without one these days. That’s not a QB problem, that’s a GM/Owner problem.
 

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QB is a hard position to make people happy. Even Troy Aikman was jeered out of the stadium his last years. Aikman quickly lost it at age 30, and maybe we’re starting to see it with Dak? Reading this message board, it’s easy to think in extremes with our QB. But I would like to think most of us were cautiously optimistic about Dak going into 2023.

We’ve seen some increasing inconsistencies and regressions. But it wasn’t that long ago that Dak was the Brock Purdy of the NFL - a cool, calm, collected rookie QB making all the right decisions and looking like he could go all the way in the Playoffs. Or how about 2018 when he got Coop and started lighting the offense up! Or even last year’s Playoffs. As disappointing as the San Francisco game, you can’t deny Dak was perfect in that Tampa game.

Like all veteran professional QBs, you won’t hear Dak complain about the injuries. Only the reporters will bring it up. The most unsolicited emotional shot we’ll get is the game when he was sitting on the field with his foot pointed the wrong direction. It’s also easy to forget that while not a mobile QB in the mold of someone like Josh Alllen, the run was part of Dak’s game in college and the pros, and he paid the price. Maybe just like Donovan McNabb, Cam Newton, Steve McNair, Daunte Culpepper and other mobile QBs who very quickly lost it at 30? Not everyone can be an Aaron Rodgers and take that beating to age 40.

I agree with others that we may have just seen the beginning of the end for Dak. This is the first time in his career where we can honestly say if he doesn’t rebound, he may not be on the team next year. For those who are eager to see that, and think Trey Lance is the chosen one, I want to remind you of the misery we went through with Jerry’s last hand-picked project QBs… Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson and the Gang!

Never say never. The season is only five games. It was a total punch in the mouth, but it can turn around. Especially with so much parity and limited roster depth. I’m more concerned that the ENTIRE team laid an egg. Hey, at least it was a team effort! But I’m rooting that Dak can turn it around. Like Romo, I cheer for Dak and hope it won’t all suddenly end from age and injuries. These guys all deserve a Super Bowl shot and it’s sad seeing so many all-time Cowboys walk into the sunset without one these days. That’s not a QB problem, that’s a GM/Owner problem.
I agree the injuries could be taking their toll on dak physically, mentally, or both.
 

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I think he still has enough to be successful as long as he starts to run and throw on the run. If he doesn't want to for whatever reason, then it's time to get a new QB.
Here is his highlight video from last year. You can see, he can still be mobile and move around. But for some reason he refuses to do it when it is needed vs good defenses.
I'm not expecting him to run like Lamar but when things aren't clicking in the pocket and the receivers are not getting open, he should just tuck it and run. A 5-yard run is still better than a sack and him running will loosen up the defenses and help the receivers get open. Having said that, it's time to groom his successor. Whoever that is.

 
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Dak’s not a mobile QB that’s good at extending plays.


Hes a pocket passer that isn’t that talented at throwing the ball.



The move is Trey Lance. If it fails then so be it but everyone knows how the Dak story ends.

The Cowboys need to abandon their delusion and make a freaking move for once.
 

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QB is a hard position to make people happy. Even Troy Aikman was jeered out of the stadium his last years. Aikman quickly lost it at age 30, and maybe we’re starting to see it with Dak? Reading this message board, it’s easy to think in extremes with our QB. But I would like to think most of us were cautiously optimistic about Dak going into 2023.

We’ve seen some increasing inconsistencies and regressions. But it wasn’t that long ago that Dak was the Brock Purdy of the NFL - a cool, calm, collected rookie QB making all the right decisions and looking like he could go all the way in the Playoffs. Or how about 2018 when he got Coop and started lighting the offense up! Or even last year’s Playoffs. As disappointing as the San Francisco game, you can’t deny Dak was perfect in that Tampa game.

Like all veteran professional QBs, you won’t hear Dak complain about the injuries. Only the reporters will bring it up. The most unsolicited emotional shot we’ll get is the game when he was sitting on the field with his foot pointed the wrong direction. It’s also easy to forget that while not a mobile QB in the mold of someone like Josh Alllen, the run was part of Dak’s game in college and the pros, and he paid the price. Maybe just like Donovan McNabb, Cam Newton, Steve McNair, Daunte Culpepper and other mobile QBs who very quickly lost it at 30? Not everyone can be an Aaron Rodgers and take that beating to age 40.

I agree with others that we may have just seen the beginning of the end for Dak. This is the first time in his career where we can honestly say if he doesn’t rebound, he may not be on the team next year. For those who are eager to see that, and think Trey Lance is the chosen one, I want to remind you of the misery we went through with Jerry’s last hand-picked project QBs… Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson and the Gang!

Never say never. The season is only five games. It was a total punch in the mouth, but it can turn around. Especially with so much parity and limited roster depth. I’m more concerned that the ENTIRE team laid an egg. Hey, at least it was a team effort! But I’m rooting that Dak can turn it around. Like Romo, I cheer for Dak and hope it won’t all suddenly end from age and injuries. These guys all deserve a Super Bowl shot and it’s sad seeing so many all-time Cowboys walk into the sunset without one these days. That’s not a QB problem, that’s a GM/Owner problem.
Can't lose it if you never had it......................
 

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He has regressed, he mentally folds against better teams and lacks mobility now too. He's an ok front runner against bad teams, that's about it.
The people saying they knew he was *** 2 plus years ago are talking ****. He has regressed since the start of last season
 

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Dak’s not a mobile QB that’s good at extending plays.


Hes a pocket passer that isn’t that talented at throwing the ball.



The move is Trey Lance. If it fails then so be it but everyone knows how the Dak story ends.

The Cowboys need to abandon their delusion and make a freaking move for once.
This is the move, if it fails so be it…he’s the same age as the supporting cast.

Bc of Ducks salary they will let him die by the sword and play it out all year or until injury.
 

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I think he still has enough to be successful as long as he starts to run and throw on the run. If he doesn't want to for whatever reason, then it's time to get a new QB.
Here is his highlight video from last year. You can see, he can still be mobile and move around. But for some reason he refuses to do it when it is needed vs good defenses.
I'm not expecting him to run like Lamar but when things aren't clicking in the pocket and the receivers are not getting open, he should just tuck it and run...... A 5-yard run is still better than a sack and him running will loosen up the defenses and help the receivers get open. Having said that, it's time to groom his successor. Whoever that is.


.........OR throw it away. But he never does, he just takes the sack! Against SF I kept screaming at Dak "Get rid of the ball!"
But he wouldn't, he just kept the ball and took the sack! :angry:
When your receivers are covered, you're out of the pocket and don't have room to run, GET RID OF THE BALL IDIOT!
But no, he just kept taking the sack. :huh:
 

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Dak’s not a mobile QB that’s good at extending plays.


Hes a pocket passer that isn’t that talented at throwing the ball.



The move is Trey Lance. If it fails then so be it but everyone knows how the Dak story ends.

The Cowboys need to abandon their delusion and make a freaking move for once.
I am getting more on board with Trey Lance. I’m hoping he gets on the field this season. My perfect scenario is start Trey late November or early December and see what we got. Make Dak a June 1 designation and rebuild. I would love to hear reports of Trey learning the offense or something positive from practice. I hope Dak continues his downward spiral and keeps throwing picks to push the coaches to give Trey more practice reps. Steve Young is a fan of Trey and endorses him. That’s good enough for me.
 

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The people saying they knew he was *** 2 plus years ago are talking ****. He has regressed since the start of last season
Agreed. If I see in the first two sentences: "I told you all...." or "I was right...." then I usually go to another thread. LOL Don't need to help people reaffirm their ego or self-esteem.
 

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I think he still has enough to be successful as long as he starts to run and throw on the run. If he doesn't want to for whatever reason, then it's time to get a new QB.
Here is his highlight video from last year. You can see, he can still be mobile and move around. But for some reason he refuses to do it when it is needed vs good defenses.
I'm not expecting him to run like Lamar but when things aren't clicking in the pocket and the receivers are not getting open, he should just tuck it and run. A 5-yard run is still better than a sack and him running will loosen up the defenses and help the receivers get open. Having said that, it's time to groom his successor. Whoever that is.


Those goal line runs are what stands out in my memory his rookie year. He wasn't a scramble happy QB, but when he needed to run, he could. Seems that guys like that struggle as the body wears down, and they can't play their same style.
 

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Dak’s not a mobile QB that’s good at extending plays.


Hes a pocket passer that isn’t that talented at throwing the ball.



The move is Trey Lance. If it fails then so be it but everyone knows how the Dak story ends.

The Cowboys need to abandon their delusion and make a freaking move for once.
I'm all for Trey Lance next year, but it's a lost cause this year. The dude was already damaged in SF.

If the defense can get back what they just had last year, why not go with Cooper Rush instead?

Only shot we have with Trey Lance is to prepare him thoroughly. Of course... if the team tanks and Coach Mac is fired, there goes offense familiarity. Doh!
 
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