it feels good to care this much again

coogrfan;1112592 said:
Completely different situation. In both of those cases, the qb's were asked to hand off, throw the occasional play-action pass, and in general avoid screwing up.

Do you really believe that the Cowboys have the running game and defense to go into Carolina next Sunday with that approach and have even the slightest chance of pulling off an upset?

Sure! I think the Cowboys are in a better situation than Tampa. Gradkowski's only a sixth rounder. We beat Carolina with Drew Freakin Bledsoe last year for God's sake. Anythings's possible.
 
Blue&Silver;1112594 said:
Romo is none of the above. He's nothing more than an NFL backup.

I wasn't happy about last night. I expected more of this team. Everyone was yelling Superbowl before the season started, and that's all I'll accept.

Newsflash. Bledsoe wasn't gonna get you there!
 
Great post iceberg!

You are dead on with how I feel.

Until this season, I was not a big fan of Romo because I believed the odds were too long that a former UFA Div II player could be a quality NFL QB.

But I'm big enough to admit Romo proved me wrong. He, at least deserves his shot. We've all known how the old movie, "Bledsoe" ends. It's the same script year after year.

Also, one thing I like about Romo is he's a genuine Dallas Cowboy. What I mean by that is he's one of ours. Brought in by us as a rookie and developed in our system. I've grown so tired of the the friends of Bill. Especially at the QB position. Nothing personal against those guys, but they weren't Dallas Cowboys and they never will be real Dallas Cowboys.

Here's to the future and the hope that Romo can be the QB for us for many years. And, if he's not, well, we need to know that and there is no other way to know than to let him play!
 
When referencing former quarterbacks who started with little experience, how come no one is mentioning what Kurt Warner did with the Rams?
 
Hostile;1112737 said:
That's a very good post Ice.

I wish I felt as you did. I truly do. I feel worse after what I saw. I'm sitting here last night and today scratching my head and wondering how down by 5 at half and losing by 14 can be a positive sign. I just don't get it. I honestly don't.

I'm sure you can put things together. Think back to the Philly game. Up by 3 at half and losing by 14. Making sense?
 
EMMITSWIFT;1114242 said:
Man , Ive Been Saying The Same Things On Here Forever And Constantly Get Cursed And Disrespected . Im Glad To See Some More Realistic Diehard Cowboy Fans That Know Football Come Back Around Here . We Need More .

i think by and large a lot "feel" that way, but with the reponses you and i get for saying it, many just avoid it and move on. i just couldn't do that.

i love this team, hate our current direction. i hate how we leave holes wide open and when saying so, like you i've been "looked down upon" for my views and have been labled a hater.

so i was. i'll never deny i hated this direction and i'll never deny i've said for years it won't work and will only implode. to a degree the implosion has started and who knows how far it will go. it would not surprise me to see bp and db walk at the end of the year and i wish 'em well later in life but am glad that experiment is over.

the "what other coach is out there!!!???" crowd also was pretty vocal. now hopefully we can go find out and realize that while we've had our campo's and gailey's, we've also had our landrys and johnsons - so good coaches "not" named parcells *can* be found.
 
THEHEREAFTER;1114423 said:
I'm sure you can put things together. Think back to the Philly game. Up by 3 at half and losing by 14. Making sense?
Nice try, but the inabilites of one are not magnified by the inabilities of the other.
 
iceberg;1112401 said:
last night i felt something i'd not truly felt in years. something that i've loved about this team since we beat denver in the superbowl in the 70's. something that carried me through a 1-15 season while still wearing my jersey and supporting my team while in front of our family TV with a football in hand and my emotions on my sleeve. i cheered, i yelled, i wanted to win so badly i even cried at times when we didn't.

but i cared.

last night when romo hit the field, i cared again, almost like that all over again. i didn't care that the 1st pass was deflected and int'd. i didn't care romo threw it right at a lineman and was int'd again, and of course, it happened 3 times and each time bledsoe sat there looking like someone stole his dog, caring as much about the game as i did when he was playing, so i suppose that's only fair.

i've made it no secret that since bp refused to play henson or romo in the last 3 games and went with "best chance to win" in vinnie "not gonna be here next year" that i hated this "Hard Headed" time from BP and i viewed it as wasted because it would never work.

yep - i flat out said this path would *never* work. mostly the way bp was doing it. he knows bledsoe needed an all star OL and he wiffed in even trying to build one. but i digress - most people here know my stance and in several forums i've taken a lot of grief for being "negative" well i was so negative because of this "wasted time" i didn't want to waste. i wanted to play the young guys and i've always said sooner or later you've got to bite that bullet.

what would be so bad in doing so while you revamp your defense? where was the coordination of efforts (not outcome) to build up at the same rate? it just wasn't there, so i found it so very hard to "get into" a team i felt had zero chance to win. if i were to be wrong, if i'm still wrong, i'll admit it gladly but only because i will continue to say how i feel.

only i've suddenly got a reason to feel positive in a way i've not done in quite some time. this "elation" will only grow when parcells gives it up and goes off into the sunset. i thought he was going to at the press conference. he was about to cry, it seemed, and he said he was "ashamed" of this team and their performance.

screw you bill - you built this team. you coach it - you make every call on when people fart. if you're ashamed of this team then be ashamed of yourself for building it in this manner that many of us "fans" could tell was doomed from the start. when people ask about romo's mistakes, mr parcells, don't sit there and say "he shouldn't make those mistakes, he's been here four years..." yea - on the damn bench holding a clipboard.

you don't learn NFL speed on the sidelines. you don't learn the consequences of your split second decisions with a baseball hat on. and you don't grow as a player not playing. especially in those 4 years where YOU parcells squandered many opportunities to get these young guys time to learn and experience the NFL at full speed.

best chance to win. win what? meaningless games in which that experience could have helped romo tonight win a very meaningfull game? i said then each "game" isn't important and if you want a healthy franchise that's an investment and sometimes, in time for your players to learn to play at a higher level.

it's easy to see bp is about done and out. it's sad, really, cause i don't hate the man regardless of how it's come out over the last few years. i hate the stubborn decisions he's stuck with, the stupid decisions his players have made he's "Covered" for. last night was also the first time i ever heard parcells say that bledsoe was at fault for something and you could see how much it hurt him to say. he's known it all along but he's tried to excuse it away.

excuses are over. so is bledsoe. but the hope begins.

the hope that romo will learn from last night. the hope that the darts he was throwing at times were how he plays, NOT luck of a moment. herein lies a such a vast difference in the players and just why i now have hope - i don't know what romo is going to do.

i predicted drews INT at goalline to the play. lucky that time but overall accuracy is there on knowing drew will implode and only get worse as the games go on.

romo may not be the answer and i'm not going the route that he is. but we've FINALLY seen parcells realize bledsoe is NOT the answer and we DO know that. welcome to the club bill, now let's let romo have the rest of the year to learn and see what he can do.

only then will we know what we'll need to do in the next draft.

it's good to be home and it's good to be excited about this team again.

dude... you and I need to watch football together... hang out, chill, talk Cowboys and chase skirt. i'll buy you a beer, or two.

preach it, brother!...

i couldn't have said ANY of it better than you just did.

the EXCITEMENT is back!... and that's just IT.... it's finally knowing that the team now realizes something that you and I (and a few others) have known all along about our QB position.

I can't believe NO ONE here remembers how exciting it was to go 1-15 KNOWING KNOWING KNOWING that AIKMAN had a GREAT chance to be something special.... even more exciting was winning 7 games that very next year... and seeing the "maturation" process happen right before our eyes.

THAT IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHAT I MISS ABOUT MY COWBOYS....

you just saved me a good 20 minutes of not having to write what you stated so perfectly.

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
 
iceberg;1112401 said:
it's good to be home and it's good to be excited about this team again.

Well, it's going to be exciting alright! I could not believe my eyes when I saw Romo come in the game last night...it made the game exciting...the game seemed to pick up speed...

Now, Romo made his fair share of mistakes, however, it was only his 1st game...his 1st REAL game!

Some might think that he lost that game and Bledsoe should have stayed in...but, I don't know, and neither does anyone else. There were others that contributed to that loss too! Maybe the ref that got in the way of Roy, that touchdown does not happen? Maybe that tipped pass on Romo's first throw is not intercepted? (as they say...doo-doo happens)...and T.O. not catching that 4th and 2?

But all that did happen, and not all of it was Romo...

I love youth! I love the feisty exuberance that young people bring to the table...that no fear, fun attitude...and, he is a home grown player at that!

He now needs to learn his responsibilities as a QB, and learn how to control his instincts, however, he still needs those "chance instincts" that many QB's have...I guess they call it the "having it"?

I honestly believe that his youth will make a BIG difference in the Oline play, because if the coaches design game plans that utilize Romo's "mobility", those poor fat *******s won't have to maintain their blocks for 1/2 hour while Bledsoe decides to get rid of the ball...

Bledsoe, I feel bad for him, but, damn, football is a young man's game! There comes a day that you have to finally realize that you might be a little to old for things, and you MUST step aside, because there is always that young guy wanting to take your job...

After the game last night, although the Boyz lost, I had a smile on my face! I no longer want to hear about "playoffs" and "SuperBowls" and all that crazy stuff! It just does not concern me anymore at this time, and I'm not going anywhere, so I'm patient.

What I want to see is a young man grow into a football player, or fail as one...because that is what is important for this team. Show us what you got, Romo! We saw what Bledsoe has to offer. And, if Romo cannot get the job done, fine with me! At least I know that the Cowboys brass finally wanted to find out for themselves just exactely where the QB position stands.

Never doubt the minds of the youth, because they are our future...

Good luck, Cowboys, the rest of the way! Win or lose...I'll be watching...I'm here to stay...

Wonderful post Iceberg!

:star:
 
iceberg;1112401 said:
last night i felt something i'd not truly felt in years. something that i've loved about this team since we beat denver in the superbowl in the 70's. something that carried me through a 1-15 season while still wearing my jersey and supporting my team while in front of our family TV with a football in hand and my emotions on my sleeve. i cheered, i yelled, i wanted to win so badly i even cried at times when we didn't.

but i cared.

last night when romo hit the field, i cared again, almost like that all over again. i didn't care that the 1st pass was deflected and int'd. i didn't care romo threw it right at a lineman and was int'd again, and of course, it happened 3 times and each time bledsoe sat there looking like someone stole his dog, caring as much about the game as i did when he was playing, so i suppose that's only fair.

i've made it no secret that since bp refused to play henson or romo in the last 3 games and went with "best chance to win" in vinnie "not gonna be here next year" that i hated this "Hard Headed" time from BP and i viewed it as wasted because it would never work.

yep - i flat out said this path would *never* work. mostly the way bp was doing it. he knows bledsoe needed an all star OL and he wiffed in even trying to build one. but i digress - most people here know my stance and in several forums i've taken a lot of grief for being "negative" well i was so negative because of this "wasted time" i didn't want to waste. i wanted to play the young guys and i've always said sooner or later you've got to bite that bullet.

what would be so bad in doing so while you revamp your defense? where was the coordination of efforts (not outcome) to build up at the same rate? it just wasn't there, so i found it so very hard to "get into" a team i felt had zero chance to win. if i were to be wrong, if i'm still wrong, i'll admit it gladly but only because i will continue to say how i feel.

only i've suddenly got a reason to feel positive in a way i've not done in quite some time. this "elation" will only grow when parcells gives it up and goes off into the sunset. i thought he was going to at the press conference. he was about to cry, it seemed, and he said he was "ashamed" of this team and their performance.

screw you bill - you built this team. you coach it - you make every call on when people fart. if you're ashamed of this team then be ashamed of yourself for building it in this manner that many of us "fans" could tell was doomed from the start. when people ask about romo's mistakes, mr parcells, don't sit there and say "he shouldn't make those mistakes, he's been here four years..." yea - on the damn bench holding a clipboard.

you don't learn NFL speed on the sidelines. you don't learn the consequences of your split second decisions with a baseball hat on. and you don't grow as a player not playing. especially in those 4 years where YOU parcells squandered many opportunities to get these young guys time to learn and experience the NFL at full speed.

best chance to win. win what? meaningless games in which that experience could have helped romo tonight win a very meaningfull game? i said then each "game" isn't important and if you want a healthy franchise that's an investment and sometimes, in time for your players to learn to play at a higher level.

it's easy to see bp is about done and out. it's sad, really, cause i don't hate the man regardless of how it's come out over the last few years. i hate the stubborn decisions he's stuck with, the stupid decisions his players have made he's "Covered" for. last night was also the first time i ever heard parcells say that bledsoe was at fault for something and you could see how much it hurt him to say. he's known it all along but he's tried to excuse it away.

excuses are over. so is bledsoe. but the hope begins.

the hope that romo will learn from last night. the hope that the darts he was throwing at times were how he plays, NOT luck of a moment. herein lies a such a vast difference in the players and just why i now have hope - i don't know what romo is going to do.

i predicted drews INT at goalline to the play. lucky that time but overall accuracy is there on knowing drew will implode and only get worse as the games go on.

romo may not be the answer and i'm not going the route that he is. but we've FINALLY seen parcells realize bledsoe is NOT the answer and we DO know that. welcome to the club bill, now let's let romo have the rest of the year to learn and see what he can do.

only then will we know what we'll need to do in the next draft.

it's good to be home and it's good to be excited about this team again.

What a great post man truly!!!!
 
to the last 3 of you replying to this - thank you. it's good to post how i feel and it not cause "problems" for a change. : )
 
iceberg;1114920 said:
to the last 3 of you replying to this - thank you. it's good to post how i feel and it not cause "problems" for a change. : )
I tried to make it cause problems but I struck out.

:p:
 
coogrfan;1112518 said:
Not happening, at least not with Romo. Inexperienced qb's don't win in the NFL.


That's quite possibly the dumbest statement I have ever heard. Brady won, Montana won, Rothlisberger won, Marino won, Culpepper won, Hasselback won.

That was a real mental gem ya threw out there.

SS

:star:
 
tecolote;1112536 said:
Saying Romo had a good game if not for the 3 interceptions is like saying a doctor had a good surgery if not for the patient dying, but we were dead with Bledsoe anyway and I really beleive today is a good day for the cowboys organization, whatever happens.

That is worthy of repeating and even a signature for a while
 

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