It is Vince Youngs fault

the kid 05

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just goes to prove the texans where THAT much stupider for chooising Mario Freaking Williams over both Reggie Bush and Vince Young
 

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I still don't understand why he gets credit for their record. They got those wins in spite of his play, not because of it.
 

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the kid 05;1333341 said:
just goes to prove the texans where THAT much stupider for chooising Mario Freaking Williams over both Reggie Bush and Vince Young

I disagree tremendously.
Carr is a very good QB. He needs a line. VY wouldnt be able to run as much and would have had even WORSE passing stats if he was behind that line. Bush would have no holes. The success of a team starts in the trenches. Not a single team with a horrible offensive line has ever drafted a QB and had him be successful and the team be successful.
 

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theogt;1333346 said:
I still don't understand why he gets credit for their record. They got those wins in spite of his play, not because of it.

Agreed.
 

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Wonderboyromo;1333350 said:
I disagree tremendously.
Carr is a very good QB. He needs a line. VY wouldnt be able to run as much and would have had even WORSE passing stats if he was behind that line. Bush would have no holes. The success of a team starts in the trenches. Not a single team with a horrible offensive line has ever drafted a QB and had him be successful and the team be successful.
I'm not sure that's possible.
 

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theogt;1333354 said:
I'm not sure that's possible.

Hahaha
I was thinking that when I was typing it, but I decided to leave that part out. I agree though, he was horrific in passing.
 

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theogt;1333346 said:
I still don't understand why he gets credit for their record. They got those wins in spite of his play, not because of it.

:lmao2:

Cue the lengthy back and forth VY Rules/VY is blah pages in 5, 4, 3, 2
 

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they got the wins in spite of Vince's play?

His numbers were not gaudy to say the least....but when it was time to win the game...he nutted up and won the game.

Without Young on offense or Jones on defense I doubt the Titans win a freakin game, that is how bad they were playing with Collins in there.

To say they won in spit of Young is absolutely foolish...I guess UT won a National Championship in spite of Young as well.

and for the record....Young outperformed the two golden boy QB prospects, Leinart and Cutler, from his same draft class.
 

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I could have sworn, VY made those TD runs in Buffalo, and Houston, and made throws at the end of the game to lead his team down the field.

But w/e
 

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dargonking999;1333405 said:
I could have sworn, VY made those TD runs in Buffalo, and Houston, and made throws at the end of the game to lead his team down the field.

But w/e

common sense is never welcome, you've been here long enough to know this.
 

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theogt;1333346 said:
I still don't understand why he gets credit for their record. They got those wins in spite of his play, not because of it.

Ya know, sometimes you just don't have the energy. So I'll pass.
 

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Thank goodness we're not getting Fischer. You're right, he would have been fired if he hadn't drafted VY... And he didn't even want to draft him. (Bud and GM pushed for Vince vs. Fischer and Chow wanting Leinhart.)

Fischer can take credit for two first rounders: Albert Haynesworth (the stomper) and PacMan Jones who is arrested every other week. Do you really want a coach that would have been fired if he hadn't been saved by one player (who he didn't even want).
 

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Cant agree with you more on this one. If the Titans would have lost more games. Fisher would have been gone and then landed in Dallas.

ghosttown cowboy;1333282 said:
If it weren't for VY, we would be hiring Jeff Fischer right now. IMO
 

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grunt482;1333446 said:
Cant agree with you more on this one. If the Titans would have lost more games. Fisher would have been gone and then landed in Dallas.

And would that have been a good thing? Let's hire the fired coach... While we areat it, maybe we should look at Jim Mora and Dennis Green.
 

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Its Fisher not Fischer.....for crying out loud...

and I think we should hire Dennis Green.....I mean afterall, we do have the Bears on our schedule next year...and with Denny we can have em just where we want em....
 

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Biggems;1333465 said:
Its Fisher not Fischer.....for crying out loud...

and I think we should hire Dennis Green.....I mean afterall, we do have the Bears on our schedule next year...and with Denny we can have em just where we want em....

"FISHER" maybe be (a little better than Denny), but I almost felt sorry for Denny after that one....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBOCE3eue3Y
 
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