It's the coach...

[vta]

I've really been an ardent supporter of Bill, having faith that he was building something for the long term, but this late season collapse, that's become routine has shown that he just doesn't have it to be a coach in this league today.

He coaches in fear. He hates fumbles, so he takes away what Julius does naturally, by putting the fear of God into him and making him run while practically hugging the ball. He hates getting burned, so he disallows any kind of creative blitzing scheme and hopes simply pushing the other guy will work.

He's too busy focusing on what could happen in the event of allowing a little creativity, he doesn't realize that it stumps the natural flow of the game, forcing a player to do what's not natural to him.

I see a lot of posts about how Julius Jones sucks and he's a bust. I don't believe that at all. I remember clearly how exciting he was to watch in his first 2 seasons. I really though we found our Emmitt replacement. I still think we did. We just have to get a coach who does too.

I know he got hurt, I know he fumbled a time or two, but when he was on, he was outstanding and that's what a team needs, not flatlining vanilla. Sure no mistakes, but also no big plays.

I find it hard to believe someone so afraid to gamble could use a poker/casino analogy when comparing what it's like to coach the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I've really been an ardent supporter of Bill, having faith that he was building something for the long term, but this late season collapse, that's become routine has shown that he just doesn't have it to be a coach in this league today.

He coaches in fear. He hates fumbles, so he takes away what Julius does naturally, by putting the fear of God into him and making him run while practically hugging the ball. He hates getting burned, so he disallows any kind of creative blitzing scheme and hopes simply pushing the other guy will work.

He's too busy focusing on what could happen in the event of allowing a little creativity, he doesn't realize that it stumps the natural flow of the game, forcing a player to do what's not natural to him.

I see a lot of posts about how Julius Jones sucks and he's a bust. I don't believe that at all. I remember clearly how exciting he was to watch in his first 2 seasons. I really though we found our Emmitt replacement. I still think we did. We just have to get a coach who does too.

I know he got hurt, I know he fumbled a time or two, but when he was on, he was outstanding and that's what a team needs, not flatlining vanilla. Sure no mistakes, but also no big plays.

I find it hard to believe someone so afraid to gamble could use a poker/casino analogy when comparing what it's like to coach the Dallas Cowboys.

I have been a BP supporter from day 1 but I'm now on board with replacing him and the whole staff.

 

[theogt]

I have been a BP supporter from day 1 but I'm now on board with replacing him and the whole staff.

Same here.

After New Orleans I wanted to get rid of Bill and the entire staff, but I assumed I was just frustrated and overreacting and things couldn't possibly be that bad. What I saw was a failure to adjust throughout the progress of a single game.

Now, after several weeks and several trouncings by opposing offenses, it's not just a failure to adjust mid-game, but a completely failure to adjust at all. Maybe it's the coaching staff being stubborn, which is indictable. Or maybe it's the coaching staff being ignorant, which is insufferable.

 

[stealth]

bill has one more year in my book. Get rid of zimmer, if next year is a repeat of the december meltdowns then let the man go.

 

[Bleu Star]

I have been a BP supporter from day 1 but I'm now on board with replacing him and the whole staff.

aboard.

Please put on your life jacket. It's going to get choppy here once the season is over.

 

[theogt]

bill has one more year in my book. Get rid of zimmer, if next year is a repeat of the december meltdowns then let the man go.

The problem is we can get rid of Zimmer, but we're not going to attract another qualified coordinator who Bill will let roam free. If Bill is back we'll get another puppet and we'll see the same results.

 

[stealth]

The problem is we can get rid of Zimmer, but we're not going to attract another qualified coordinator who Bill will let roam free. If Bill is back we'll get another puppet and we'll see the same results.

well count me as one of the guys praying Romeo is heading our way. Thats my dream scenario. Bill isn't a big blitzer but he is a bump the receivers guy and zimmer doesn't let that happen. I really think yesterday if our db's had jammed the receivers at all it woulda been a different story since martz is pretty much a timing guy.

 

[DallasEast]

He hates fumbles, so he takes away what Julius does naturally, by putting the fear of God into him and making him run while practically hugging the ball.

I'm in complete agreement. Instead of helping to reduce Julius's fumbling tendency, he's neutered Julius running style. Parcells should have coached up Julius akin to how Tom Coughlin corrected Tiki Barber's fumblitis.

Barber rarely ran while carrying the ball away from his body, but he did carry in low and close to his waist. This made it easier for defenders to strip the ball. Coughlin recognized that Barber could take better advantage of his arm strength and had him carry the ball up and tight against his chest.

The result? Less fumbles due to strips and no visible hampering of Barber's running style. In fact, it improved his running ability since it completely freed his other hand to stiff arm or push off more often would be tacklers.

I've never understood why Parcells never tried that with Julius. With the guns on him, Julius looks strong enough in the arms to adopt the same carrying technique.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The "get rid of BP" theme continues........

 

[Alexander]

bill has one more year in my book. Get rid of zimmer, if next year is a repeat of the december meltdowns then let the man go.

If we cannot get quality assistants in here to help him, it might be best if he goes.

Simply shipping Zimmer off in a pine box isn't going to fix the problems if we do not upgrade significantly there.

 

[theogt]

well count me as one of the guys praying Romeo is heading our way. Thats my dream scenario.

Well that would certainly be an improvement, but who knows if he'll hand him the keys.

 

[jackrussell]

I have been a BP supporter from day 1 but I'm now on board with replacing him and the whole staff.

I'll wait to see what happens in the next few weeks.

It'd look sort of silly to fire a coach that took you to the conference championship game.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

He's got one more year, pay him the year and tell him to head out to the track so we can start all over.

Get the new staff in here and give them a chance.

 

[Sarge]

I've really been an ardent supporter of Bill, having faith that he was building something for the long term, but this late season collapse, that's become routine has shown that he just doesn't have it to be a coach in this league today.

He coaches in fear. He hates fumbles, so he takes away what Julius does naturally, by putting the fear of God into him and making him run while practically hugging the ball. He hates getting burned, so he disallows any kind of creative blitzing scheme and hopes simply pushing the other guy will work.

He's too busy focusing on what could happen in the event of allowing a little creativity, he doesn't realize that it stumps the natural flow of the game, forcing a player to do what's not natural to him.

I see a lot of posts about how Julius Jones sucks and he's a bust. I don't believe that at all. I remember clearly how exciting he was to watch in his first 2 seasons. I really though we found our Emmitt replacement. I still think we did. We just have to get a coach who does too.

I know he got hurt, I know he fumbled a time or two, but when he was on, he was outstanding and that's what a team needs, not flatlining vanilla. Sure no mistakes, but also no big plays.

I find it hard to believe someone so afraid to gamble could use a poker/casino analogy when comparing what it's like to coach the Dallas Cowboys.

************* friggin' nice post ******************

 

[burmafrd]

I think BP is different now then he was years ago; I think he gave as much encouragement as he did lashes back then; and he did not rule with fear as much. At the same time- he has not sat down people who did not perform and try their backups; so the fear of reprisal has disapeared. I really think the players do not fear BP anymore; and that was the final straw.

 

[AbeBeta]

Is it Bill? Or is it Jerry?

Zimmer. Jerry.

TO. Jerry.

Two of the top complaints on this board.

 

[Aikbach]

I'm torn what to do with Bill, part of me wants to him to live out his contract and part of me thinks he should go.

Coaches that a team knows is in his final year might be difficult to recruit free agents to play for a man that will soon be gone unless Dallas wants to pull a 1994 49er trick.

 

[vta]

Is it Bill? Or is it Jerry?

Zimmer. Jerry.

TO. Jerry.

Two of the top complaints on this board.

TO's an annoyance, but he's really not what's wrong with this team. He can't dictate the playcalling and he has nothing to do with allowing lame teams to score 20+ points on us.

In the past it was Jerry. His poor decisions on coaches hamstrung us.

He did what was right and relinquished some control and brought in a proven coach. Now, the fault can only be laid at that coaches feet.

He brought in the talent - and I do think they're a good bunch. He instilled the defensive scheme. He's calling the shots. He's made it clear his biggest fear is mistakes. He harps on fumbles and taking chances.

Fear of these things dictates how he coaches and it's dumbing down a lot of talented players. It doesn't work.

I just hope that this hands off approach that Jerry shifted to doesn't become a thing of the past because of this.

 

[vta]

I'm in complete agreement. Instead of helping to reduce Julius's fumbling tendency, he's neutered Julius running style. Parcells should have coached up Julius akin to how Tom Coughlin corrected Tiki Barber's fumblitis.

Barber rarely ran while carrying the ball away from his body, but he did carry in low and close to his waist. This made it easier for defenders to strip the ball. Coughlin recognized that Barber could take better advantage of his arm strength and had him carry the ball up and tight against his chest.

The result? Less fumbles due to strips and no visible hampering of Barber's running style. In fact, it improved his running ability since it completely freed his other hand to stiff arm or push off more often would be tacklers.

I've never understood why Parcells never tried that with Julius. With the guns on him, Julius looks strong enough in the arms to adopt the same carrying technique.

Hey DallasEast, good to see you around. It's been a long time since the DMN days...

The Julius Jones thing almost bothers me more than the other things... except those other things do equal losing.

It was said yesterday that Parcells was quoted as saying if T Thompson weren't hurt, he'd be playing too, that RB's aren't built to carry numerous times in a game.

I don't understand his reluctance to allow someone to do their job fully. It goes against what he said in NE: if you can't allow me to buy the groceries (have full control f what I do) then don't expect me to cook (excel).

How can he expect a player to do what he does great, if he doesn't allow the person full control of what it takes for them to accomplish that?

Could you imagine where Tomlinson would be, if BP were his coach? Barry Sanders? Emmitt? We'd never have these greats.

 

[cowboyz]

one more year for parcells, that way we can see if it was BP or the coaches.

with the success of payton, it's leaning more towards BP. but that might just be coincidence since the offense hasn't exactly fallen off.