NFL expected to push for 4 team Euro Division?

Agree. The nfl doesn’t need realignment. Rivalries drive tv ratings and ticket sales. I don’t think they need expansion either. NFL Europe wouldn’t be too bad. Kind of a minor leagues. You could use it to help develop players. Say each team can send so many guys from players they could fit on PS or something like that. But adding new teams and half way around the world may add new fans in Europe but US fans could be lost if their teams are having 8am games
I live in Northern California. 6:30 AM sipping coffee watching live NFL football from Europe is great. Don’t care who is playing. One game per year, which is all a team would play in Europe each season, two at most depending on how they integrate the schedule, is not going to dampen fans spirits or desire to watch NFL football. Travel would be tough for the players on the European teams. But those are jobs that don’t exist at present. No way that stops a player from wanting to play in the NFL.

The whole idea of playing games on virtually every day of the week, which is already happening, has boosted viewership. Imagine a game in Sydney, Australia, I believe the NFL is playing a game there next season, 1:00 PM Sunday start in Sydney, fans in Dallas are watching the game at like 6:00 PM Saturday (the previous day). The possibilities are endless. Funny, actually.
 
If there were four teams in Europe, games could be scheduled to take place so a team will play multiple games while there. And the young unmarried guys might like a game-bye week- game set-up. Play in London, fly to Italy for your bye week and eat awesome food and bang hot Italian babes, then back to England or Germany for the next game.
 
If there were four teams in Europe, games could be scheduled to take place so a team will play multiple games while there. And the young unmarried guys might like a game-bye week- game set-up. Play in London, fly to Italy for your bye week and eat awesome food and bang hot Italian babes, then back to England or Germany for the next game.
no one wants to talk about the EU taxes they would be paying
 
not sure but I think that there is much more revenue from TV then streaming
advertisers pay a lot more for TV
Ad rates have been falling because more people are cutting the cord and streaming. The worst part is they don’t stream on just one. Kinda forcing people to buy multiple ones. YouTube TV does have local games for the market for all the network games.
 
Some thoughts.

The travel is not an issue - a handful of long trips per year. Other sports travel more e.g. various European club soccer competitions have teams in western Europe playing teams in central Asia. South African rugby teams now play in European leagues.

Taxes are not an issue. Many European countries have special laws where athletes pay zero tax!

The demand is there. A friend of mine was trying to buy tickets for a London game last week - there were 500k people ahead of him.in the ticketmaster Q. Tickets for the Dublin game going on sale in a few days - expected to sell all 80k tickets instantly.

Expect the NFL to balance the Conferences with a central/ south American division in the other conference to the European one.
 
Some thoughts.

The travel is not an issue - a handful of long trips per year. Other sports travel more e.g. various European club soccer competitions have teams in western Europe playing teams in central Asia. South African rugby teams now play in European leagues.

Taxes are not an issue. Many European countries have special laws where athletes pay zero tax!

The demand is there. A friend of mine was trying to buy tickets for a London game last week - there were 500k people ahead of him.in the ticketmaster Q. Tickets for the Dublin game going on sale in a few days - expected to sell all 80k tickets instantly.

Expect the NFL to balance the Conferences with a central/ south American division in the other conference to the European one.
You claim taxes are not an issue. I have seen those talking about the impact on the players.
You claim travel is not an issue. Soccer is NOT as violent and damaging to the body as American Football is; players take longer to recover. So that claim is invalid as well
Demand is a chimera. For a game now and then versus weekly - you have no evidence the support would last that long at the prices that would be required.
 
You claim taxes are not an issue. I have seen those talking about the impact on the players.
You claim travel is not an issue. Soccer is NOT as violent and damaging to the body as American Football is; players take longer to recover. So that claim is invalid as well
Demand is a chimera. For a game now and then versus weekly - you have no evidence the support would last that long at the prices that would be required.
What level of taxes do athletes pay in the US? (Federal & State). In my country athletes pay Zero taxes even though the rest of us are heavily taxed. And there are no accountancy tricks involved - professional athletes rate of income tax is zero %.
 
What level of taxes do athletes pay in the US? (Federal & State). In my country athletes pay Zero taxes even though the rest of us are heavily taxed. And there are no accountancy tricks involved - professional athletes rate of income tax is zero %.
what is your country? I find it very hard to believe your claim that highly paid athletes are not taxed

Top Rate here is 36.6%
and that is only federal
Denmarks rate is lke 70%
 
no one wants to talk about the EU taxes they would be paying
Since more games, more travel, even more teams, must be bargained for with the players the NFLPA would certainly insist players on European teams be made whole financially in deference to additional taxes and other expenses.

The NFL is not going to forfeit the worldwide sports market to other sports like soccer and basketball. The league has always been pro-growth. If international markets promise increased profit the NFL owners will go get it. Fans that don’t like it have plenty of other options to entertain them. Some NFL teams have requested to play in the Australia game next season. There must be something to be gained.
 
what is your country? I find it very hard to believe your claim that highly paid athletes are not taxed

Top Rate here is 36.6%
and that is only federal
Denmarks rate is lke 70%
Ireland. Was introduced c.20 years ago in response to other countries doing the same. Fear that big stars would move abroad and bring their wealth with them. Also applies to professional musicians and authors.
 
I don't like this. Going to be too taxing on teams and players.

Imagine an NFL where the season gets expanded to 18 games and two of them have to be in Europe. The only possible compromise I can think of is a two bye week system. Start the season in late August and completely eliminate the preseason??

I don't know.
 
no one wants to talk about the EU taxes they would be paying
Hey, I'll talk taxes! Don't want to disappoint! My brother worked as a boxing and MMA trainer in England a few months a year for about five years. Taxes go something like this:

Most of the time, non-UK residents temporarily visiting the UK to carry out work duties do not incur a UK tax charge, whether they are employed or self-employed. If a UK tax liability were to arise, the non-resident will usually find protection by virtue of being able to offset all or some of that charge in accordance with the terms of a tax treaty to prevent ‘double taxation’ – that is, being taxed twice on the same income, by different jurisdictional authorities. However, this protection does not extend to non-UK resident sportspeople who are taxable in the UK when performing or training here.

If a sportsperson or entertainer’s gross annual payment exceeds the personal allowance, around $17,000, any individual or organisation that pays that person is required to withhold basic rate income tax. It’s likely that additional UK tax will be due if the individual’s net profit exceeds the personal allowance and basic rate band in a tax year, around $67,000. In that case, the performer is required to register for self-assessment and file a UK tax return and will be exposed to UK income tax at the usual rates (20% basic rate, 40% higher rate and the additional 45% on income over $175,000 (approx) after expense deductions.

Allowable expenses such as travel, accommodation, coaching etc. could produce a reimbursement of some or the entirety of the 20% withholding tax. This cashflow disadvantage can be alleviated or eliminated by submitting an application to Great Britain's foreign entertainers’ unit, requesting that tax be assessed based on the expected net profit, rather than the gross appearance fee. In most jurisdictions, tax is applied to income directly associated with the appearance fee or prize money received. However, the UK stands out as one of the few countries where an additional tax is imposed on a segment of an individual’s global endorsement income linked to their performances.

To my knowledge, only actual players and coaches are taxed as entertainers. Everyone else associated with the team on the field doesn't have to worry about this complex tax structure.

Side note: I don't know how taxes are set up in Germany.

Second side note: I'm sure the NFL would figure out an easy way you handle the taxation issue.
 
The taxation thing is easy to sort out for all those countries where pro sports dont already have zero tax. The government will just stick a line in their annual Finance Bill exempting the NFL.
 

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