Jaguars sign veteran cornerback Aaron Glenn

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Frankly-I'm glad Bill P isn't make the calls anymore.

At least Jerry/Wade aren't making bone-headed moves like firing Steven Hoffman-wow, now THAT killed our season.
 

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I thought Aaron Glenn did a good job for us. He was a hard worker and a leader. He was older but I still though he did a good job while here..good luck Aaron.
 

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Crown Royal;1619103 said:
I don't think that Jerry was trying to be cute. The only time he cuts a player because of salary is when that player just isn't giving you the value for the money, which Glenn wasn't. If they were really interested in retaining him, they wouldn't have cut him.

I don't think Jerry would ever put his team in jeopardy to save a few dollars.

You nailed it.

The folks that think we were just being "cheap" are wrong.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1619126 said:
You nailed it.

The folks that think we were just being "cheap" are wrong.
Sometimes it's just better to think that we're cheap than dumb enough to prefer Reeves at corner every down over Glenn.
 
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Crown Royal;1619105 said:
Like Ronde Barber?

Ronde Barber sure is similar in size BUT he has been playing in that defense with Monte Kiffin for how long?????

Barber will at least try to be physical at the line of scrimmage unless of course he is trying to tackle Tiki.

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Not saying Glenn cant be a cover 2 corner , he just doesn't strike me as a physical corner.
 

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AG may have been older but he's still an upgrade over Reeves/Jones/Ball who basically have NO playoff experience with the exception of the Seattle game. AG was a great veteran presence in the secondary that will be missed. I hope this doesn't come back to bite us..
 

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TunaFan33;1619122 said:
Frankly-I'm glad Bill P isn't make the calls anymore.

At least Jerry/Wade aren't making bone-headed moves like firing Steven Hoffman-wow, now THAT killed our season.


:lmao2:
 

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theogt;1619127 said:
Sometimes it's just better to think that we're cheap than dumb enough to prefer Reeves at corner every down over Glenn.

Thank you.
 

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theogt;1619127 said:
Sometimes it's just better to think that we're cheap than dumb enough to prefer Reeves at corner every down over Glenn.

I guess I missed the part about Reeves having to play every down this season... maybe someone will be kind enough to furnish a linky where someone representing the Cowboys says that. Hmm?
 

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I don't know that all the successful cover 2 DBs are big guys. Tillman is pretty big, but Nathan Vasher is also comparable to Glenn.

I think zone coverage ability and intelligence is far more important than size in cover 2.
 

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TheSport78;1619129 said:
AG may have been older but he's still an upgrade over Reeves/Jones/Ball who basically have NO playoff experience with the exception of the Seattle game. AG was a great veteran presence in the secondary that will be missed. I hope this doesn't come back to bite us..

I don't disagree with this - I personally liked him, and thought he was decent. I don't know if I agree with the talent evaluation. I just don't think that it was a money saving move - I think it was a talent evaluation issue.

Let's just hope they evaluated correctly.
 
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MichaelWinicki;1619132 said:
I guess I missed the part about Reeves having to play every down this season... maybe someone will be kind enough to furnish a linky where someone representing the Cowboys says that. Hmm?


A cortizone shot in the foot is the only way our best corner is going to be on the field Sunday Night isn't exactly reassuring.....
 

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TheSport78;1619129 said:
AG may have been older but he's still an upgrade over Reeves/Jones/Ball who basically have NO playoff experience with the exception of the Seattle game. AG was a great veteran presence in the secondary that will be missed. I hope this doesn't come back to bite us..

Ball is not even on the team.

I'd like to see the proof of how Glenn is STILL an upgrade over Reeves and Jones. He was probably an upgrade back in 1980 but it's been a long time since Glenn was an elite corner.

Playoff experience? Please! It's not like Glenn was playing on teams that were making the playoffs every year! Come'on! This Glenn argument is getting more ridiculous by the moment. Maybe some of you can get out your black arm-bands and wear them in memory of our beloved former nickel corner.
 

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Crap! I was so looking forward to the belly laugh at eduncan's reaction if we brought him back.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1619138 said:
A cortizone shot in the foot is the only way our best corner is going to be on the field Sunday Night isn't exactly reassuring.....

I guess you should be glad you didn't know what sort of injury issues Henry had last year huh? Or the knee problem Newman had in '05.

Football and injuries go hand & hand.
 
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Crown Royal;1619133 said:
I don't know that all the successful cover 2 DBs are big guys. Tillman is pretty big, but Nathan Vasher is also comparable to Glenn.

I think zone coverage ability and intelligence is far more important than size in cover 2.


Your right about the intelligence...

But size is prefered in the scheme if you can sign them or draft them..

Look at Dungy's starting corners

Marlin Jackson

6'0 190

Kelvin Hayden

6'0 195
 

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MichaelWinicki;1619132 said:
I guess I missed the part about Reeves having to play every down this season... maybe someone will be kind enough to furnish a linky where someone representing the Cowboys says that. Hmm?

What link do you have that suggests that Newman is more than 50-50 for this game?

The only way this can be put to rest is for Newman to step in and play as if he isn't injured. If that is true, the optimism is founded somewhat.

The predominant line of thinking, right or wrong, is that Newman will eventually not be able to perform at a high level. So, your third cornerback makes an impact whether you like it or not, want to deny it will happen or not.

Anyone who is logical can see the issues that would cause. That same logical mind would be able to take the totality of what Reeves has shown to date and realize he is not head and shoulders above Glenn, not in experience or playmaking ability. He is a veteran at a position where it actually does pay to have seen it all. I saw nothing from the player in preseason that showed he lost a step he never had. I did see Reeves make some awful mistakes that would get many players cut, not promoted.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1619151 said:
I guess you should be glad you didn't know what sort of injury issues Henry had last year huh? Or the knee problem Newman had in '05.

Football and injuries go hand & hand.


I still think we are overdoing it on the Newman thing.

I said it in another thread - Glenn, Newman, whatever - teams are going to pass on this team. They just are. There are going to be some games where it seems we just can't stop the QB. That's a Wade Phillips thing - we'll probably stop the run and harass the QB, but we are going to find a team that can stop the blitz, and everyone is going to freak out.

Newsflash - this was going to happen one way or another.

I hate the CB position, to be honest. There isn't a team in the NFL that considers itself to be deep here, and in this passing league, CBs get burned. Unfortunately, people seem to forget that the WR is getting paid too.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1619132 said:
I guess I missed the part about Reeves having to play every down this season... maybe someone will be kind enough to furnish a linky where someone representing the Cowboys says that. Hmm?
I guess I missed the part about anyone saying Reeves had to play every down this season. But he will have to play every down of a game in which Newman isn't playing.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;1619154 said:
Your right about the intelligence...

But size is prefered in the scheme if you can sign them or draft them..

Look at Dungy's starting corners

Marlin Jackson

6'0 190

Kelvin Hayden

6'0 195



The difference is that my example actually used really good CBs. Those are his starters, but it isn't like teams haven't been able to pass on the Colts.
 
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